NEWS: Nurofen + etc to be made Prescription only!!!

[PsiloSubNaut]

^^here here

 

[rolls_]

Codeine is not that powerful a drug. It's danger lies in the fact that it's combined with toxic ingredients (acetaminophen, ibuprofen) and most people don't realize exactly how dangerous these additives are.

I've read stories about people suffering stomach ulcers from taking too much Nurofen everyday... the danger doesn't lie in the codeine. People are going to find another way to get the 'fix' they want, whether it's more or less dangerous.

Honestly I would rate addiction just as dangerous as the physical dangers of ibuprofen and paracetamol.

I mean no offence but you had a pretty bad run with codeine basically taking over your life didn't you? Some people might compare the life of an addict for 2 years the same as having cancer and chemo for 2 years.

Honestly if this stops a large amount of codeine addicts from becoming addicts in the first place then I'm all for it. Yes it wont stop existing addicts, but it will help prevent against new addicts almost certainly.

People can still get plenty of pain relief via using 2x nurofen plus (12mg under new rules) and 2x panadeine (10mg) so I don't see how it will be a pain to anyone other than addicts.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Also, fuck codeine WD. I'm a week clean now.

On Wednesday, no pharmacies were selling me the big packs. That's the day before the restrictions took place.

 

[rolls_]

Mr Blonde go see a doc asap, get on suboxone or anything, it has been way too long you've been on that shit.

A week clean is amazing, but if you are even slightly considering relapsing get onto that shit.

 

[C_Tripper]

and so it should...Codeine is a powerful drug, yet people undermine it's potential toxicology element to it by delusional thinking to themselves that they'll be safe because of it's OTC properties.

It will also prevent potential drug overdoses by people/also reduce the risk of acute live and/or renal failure/it will be a solution the the already burdening health system crisis that we have in this country.

But fuck it, I say fuck you to the Government. People can do whatever the fuck they want to do with their bodies, I don't give a fuck.

I... actually agree with you. Y'know, despite being high as shit on poppy seed tea right now (woooo).

Codeine, and the larger boxes are quite frankly unneccessary in my personal opinion, for the following reasons:

1) If you have pain such that you need regular doses of codeine, then you should be seeing a doctor
2) 24 packs with ID are a good way of limiting the potential for people to harm themselves, which is a good thing
3) I have a stash still

Here in QLD you had to already give your ID over for larger packs, smaller packs didn't require it. Seems pretty damned sane to me, considering it is an addictive opiate, with a medium potential for abuse, and damage.

There is another forum on the net, filled mainly with house-wives who are all recovering (or trying to recover from) codeine dependance or damage. Now, as we all know, the damage is from the ibuprofen/paracetamol, not from the codeine, but you cannot educate everyone about the benefits of cold-water extractions in our current legal condition.

As such, restricting the sale of it a little might help these people. I highly doubt it'll turn those people to "harder" drugs, and most of us here probably already dabble in the yummier stuff regardless.

This law change isn't targeting us, but the other less educated users that are really harming themselves already.

Does that make sense? Its not an ideal situation, and it's brought on by our backwards way of thinking RE: drug legality, however it's for the best (considering).

240mg of codeine is still an excellent dose IME, and besides, chemist shopping is simple: they aren't allowed to share data between chemists anyway.

 

[Sustanon]

Do they make chemist own in 24s at all?

 

[nabollocks]

That would be a yes..

http://www.chemistsown.com.au/products_37.htm

 

[phase_dancer]

Wonderful to see you around again Mr Blonde.

 

[static_mind]

Anyone here given up Codeine before got any hints on how they went about it? Im going to take another go today and iv found the Immodium does a very good job of stopping the run's but its the pesky craveings that get me. I love a beer, something else I need to cut down on and unfortantly beer was an integral part of my "Codeine Routine". Im sure many of you have a pattern of things you do while prepareing the drug. Mine would be to have a beer while waiting for the tablets to dissolve in the same glass I always used, then filter into my codeine glass.

The beer now adds on the urge to use. I got around this once upon a time by useing GBL. Once I had a dose I was unable to have a beer due to interactions and thus my craveings for codeine were a little less. I cannot get GBL anymore so im going to try a bit of excerise. Walking and walking until im rooted.

 

[belarki]

Welcome back Mr Blonde!!!! :D

 

[phase_dancer]

Anyone here given up Codeine before got any hints on how they went about it? Im going to take another go today and iv found the Immodium does a very good job of stopping the run's but its the pesky craveings that get me.

All the best with your intention to quit static. You might like to consider starting a new thread with your question as the title.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Also, fuck codeine WD. I'm a week clean now.

On Wednesday, no pharmacies were selling me the big packs. That's the day before the restrictions took place.

that's great to hear brother, that's what i forgot to ask you when i replied just before (i'll take the time to update you a bit more in the next few days or something anyway). we'll just have to light up a joint down at the joynt

seems they've taken all the big 48 & 96-100 boxes off the shelves in town here too - at least in the 2 chemists i frequent for it, so probably the rest as well. the chick knew exactly what i wanted as well and was sweet enough to sell me 4 x 24 packs...at quite an inflated price mind you

 

[Pie]

Still got the 24 packs all over the open shelves at a popular budget chemist chain....Not behind the counter or anything, *shrugs*.

They seem to have a policy where the cashiers ask "have you used this before" but that's it.

 

[face__]

Even though i have and continue to abuse codeine i support these new laws purely because they don't significantly effect legitimate users. however most of the obvious abusers that come into my work dont buy big packets of codeine combinations

i cant beleive the number of people that use childrens night-time painstop and dolased. if you know anyone that does this please smack them like a puppy on the nose and show them how to cwe. unfortunately i cant educate and reduce harm for these people in fear of loosing my job.

also many pharmacies still have the big packets if you shop around, they are not taking them off the shelves just not ordering them in. they are very cheap.

p.s good to see you back mr blonde.

 

[Sustanon]

That would be a yes..

http://www.chemistsown.com.au/products_37.htm

Thanks Nabollocks. Havnt seen them in the pharms yet. Bought another 3 bottles of 100tabs chemist owns and there widely available in one chemist that i normally go to. The lady asked me you know that these will need prescription from the 1st of May? I replied: Really? I didnt know that and walked off smiling LOL

 

[face__]

haha i have been telling customers and judging by their reaction try guess if they are a possible BLer

 

[drug_mentor]

Welcome back mr blonde, its good to see you around again.

The day is almost upon us, I went to a few different chemists last night and only half of them were actually selling larger packets of codeine, one of them only had 4 large boxes left on the shelf after I got mine and I doubt they will be getting more.

 

[internettoughguy]

I have never used Codeine or any other opiate before, but the scheduling made me want to try it before it's gone. So I bought 1 pack of 24xNurofen Plus and 2packets of 18xHerron Gold from the same time (in melb), didn't get any looks or questions asked.

Tried a water extraction with 8x Nurofen Plus tabs (12.8mg x 8). I know for sure i did it sloppy and probably missed a bit of the extraction due to spilling the water on the bench. Didn't feel much of a buzz at all, Felt a little relaxed but nothing some tobacco wouldn't give me. I'm going to try again in a week at 11 Nurofen Plus tabs with CWE and see how I go. Just need to get my extraction technique working properly as I've never done one before~

 

[rolls_]

You need at least 120mg to feel anything, being as you lose almost 50% in a crappy extraction and maybe 10-20% in a better one you will need way more tablets.

Try getting a microfibre sunglasses bag, two of them. Pour the slush in these and then squeeze, it should come out crystal clear and will take you about 2 minutes.

Also you will still be able to get these after the ban, in fact the packet you bought will be exactly the same. It is only the 48 and 96 packs that that will be affected. And the maximum dose will be 12mg instead of 15mg.

 

[belarki]

^ the CWE megathreads here and in the other drug discussion forums have a ton of info. on extractions, dosage etc. Honestly I wouldn't recommend you go and seek out codeine for a high just because it's being rescheduled. It may seem harmless compared to stronger opiates but it is an opiate nonetheless and should hence be treated with some respect. Keep in mind that it can be addictive. It's also a pretty subtle high; don't expect a huge buzz.

Good to see you started with a reasonable dose though. If you feel the need to increase it much have some antihistamines handy just in case.

Take care