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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v2; 2010

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qwe said:
@broken

water can effect it. no myth
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Water will effect it but they should be able to normalise the quantities by comparing them to a known excrement that varies with water content. Hence the results shouldn't vary if your pee is diluted. Because if they didn't do this there is nothing stopping people faking pee tests by just putting water in them.

Obviously if there is a ridiculous amount of water in your pee they might ask for another sample as it is too inaccurate to normalise values that far.

I think him spitting it out is far more likely to be the culprit.

Captain.Heroin said:
This is why we don't allow drug tests: drug tests are a scam.
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If he is in Australia then he has no choice, they have to verify that you are indeed an opiate addict (fail a test initially) and they then have to verify you are indeed taking the drug otherwise you will get Zero takeaways (1 test every time you request getting takeaways).

I think this is fair enough, whilst there are a few cases (this one) where it doesn't seem to work properly (likely to be user error though) the majority of the time a piss test is going to work.

I think they definitely have their place, with out them we open the road for diversion and people who aren't even on opiates stealing places from people that genuinely require it.
 
daddysgone said:
Im glad to hear your taper is going well, and I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but you haven't hit the tough part yet. If I understand you correctly, you have tapered down to 2mg, is that right? 2mg is still a decent sized dose that can "hold" most people believe it or not.
I am sorry to tell you that the real hard part will be tapering down once you get down to 1mg and below. Good luck to you-DG
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He tapered down to a 2mg dose every other day then jumped off.

He is on day 7 and feeling 95%. you are in the clear there is no bad news. After seven days off bupe you aint gonna start feeling WORSE than you already are
 
Captain.Heroin said:
I don't imagine the norepinephrine reuptake inhibition effects of bupropion hcl would be very compatible with Suboxone. In fact, NRI on Suboxone = YUCK. Nasty feeling, more than like it.
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Why do you say it's more than likely a "yuck" feeling? I haven't noticed any terrible side effects. Other than I want to get high real bad. But that's like always.

Oh and could someone please direct me to a thread on helping snort Subs with a water buffer? I've searched and can't seem to find it.
 
ThePharmicist said:
Why do you say it's more than likely a "yuck" feeling? I haven't noticed any terrible side effects. Other than I want to get high real bad. But that's like always.

Oh and could someone please direct me to a thread on helping snort Subs with a water buffer? I've searched and can't seem to find it.
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What do you mean a water buffer? Like a water + buprenorphine solution that you spray in your nose?
 
ThePharmicist said:
Yeah, filtering out the fillers, and essentially administering it into your nasal cavity with water rather than snorting the crushed pill powder.

That's what I would think a water buffer is, I could be wrong though.
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You can dissolve your desired dose into some water, and run it through a cotton filter if you want to avoid the inactive ingredients. I have never water-lined so I don't know how much water or how little water to use. You probably want to use as little as possible but I'm not sure.
 
@trig
you'd probably want to take a month off. especially with its half life (itll hit your receptors for quite some time, giving a lot of time for your receptors to "re adjust" to being "bathed in opioids")

to get your tolerance back to baseline (close eyes if delicate personality) itll take a couple years of sobriety and you still won't be back 100% to that old tolerance. but after that long of a break, you'd be fine taking an opiate every 2-4 weeks
 
^I dunno of any time frame other than the general "gets gradually better over two weeks" mantra, but I would recommend exercising like crazy during this period so that your brain prioritizes sleep over your comfort level when you lay down. It worked for me and a few others on here, at least, so I definitely think it's worth a shot.
 
@trig if you havent taken other opiates besides bupe, taking bupe will not cause any withdrawal, i assume you mean will it make the withdrawal worse/start all over again after the bupe wears off
 
Trigeminal said:
Yea exactly --just wondering if my withdrawals will start over or worsen. I've only been taking bupe.
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They won't start over or worsen from where they were during the most intense stage, but once the dose of bupe wears off, you may be slightly behind in the recovery compared to where you were before you took that dose. It won't be like a total reset, but it probably won't go completely unnoticed in the long run, either... I honestly don't think it's that bad of an idea, especially if you take an ulira-low dose to help wean your body off the last tiny bit more slowly.
 
Greetings. I just waited waited 24 hours after my last herion sht and took 4 mgs of Suboxone. I'm still just as sick! too sick to research other threads or posts. I've got 8 more mgs of Sub left. Any ideas?
 
dose another 2mg in 12 hours. repeat every 12 hours tomorrow, then dose the remaining 2mg split into 2 doses the 3rd day

if you took the bupe too early (which you did if you are not feeling any better) there is pretty much nothing you can do besides wait it out and continue on your bupe regimen (you will begin to feel better the 3rd day for sure) or you could dose heroin and you will probably just feel better/ok not high then repeat the whole process again ideally waiting 36 hours before dosing bupe this time
 
i needed to wait about 5 days. i was coming off methadone though. your body could have more protein-binding or lower metabolism. i'd save that suboxone another 24h just in case. you don't want to waste any
 
This sub/bupe megathread is getting more and more interesting as I read it, however I have yet to see anything like I want to know. I did utse and found just stuff related to smoking weed or stopping smoking etc. I was just thinking of a "possible way to get more buzz outta subs?".

I was reading and obsessing more about my obsession with opiates when I was on facebook a few days ago and joined this cool group called opium or something. I saw this cool awesome, wish I had it opium smoking pipe that was real old, had a cool top for it too, to keep your "love" cozied up without fear of it falling out. SOOO, I suddenly thought, gee what if I take my sub, just one 8mg sub and crush it up into fine powder like opium powder and smoke a sub?.

Anyone tried this ever?, what would happen if I smoked one of my 8mg suboxone?
 
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