Salvia, is it worth it?

[Shakti]

Salvia has my respect. It's tremendously powerful, not exactly fun. If you're not looking to not know who you are for an indefinite period, and are looking for a fun time, don't do it. If you're serious about exploring Mind and don't mind being overwhelmed (for better or worse), you don't want to miss this.

 

[Tikhil]

Salvia has my respect. It's tremendously powerful, not exactly fun. If you're not looking to not know who you are for an indefinite period, and are looking for a fun time, don't do it. If you're serious about exploring Mind and don't mind being overwhelmed (for better or worse), you don't want to miss this.

This^^

 

[Black]

the short answer to the question in the thread title is: no.
if i had the choice to do salvia for the first time again, i wouldn't.
after my first experience with it, it took me more than a week to somehow comprehend what happened in the few minutes under the influence of salvia and to really be sure that i was in the same reality as before the trip. the same can happen with high doses of acid, but there you at least get euphoria, aesthetic pleasures, incredible music enhancement and profound insights, all of which i don't get from salvia.

Don't try salvia. If you would rather do something like shrooms that is FUN, don't settle for the most intense drug out there. Salvia is far stronger then even DMT IMO, it will dissolve your entire world if you get the hit just right, and you have no way of knowing if that will happen or not.

couldn't agree more. i love dmt but salvia is just too intense for me (plus being weirder and ime not enjoyable in the least).

You cannot use a regular pic, period.

what? i've never used anything other than a regular bic lighter and have reliably been shot to hyperspace off 1/5g of 5x and half that of 10x every time. you just have to keep the flame of the material all the time. the choice of lighter is secondary.

 

[Bardeaux]

Salvia is worth it if you are interested in it. It is not a marijuana substitute. It is by far the strangest and most intense drug I have ever tried.

Tread with caution

 

[Teotzlcoatl]

Let me tell you now you will simply NOT enjoy the trip.

unless you chew the fresh leafs

 

[RedRum OG]

get the gram. and it will give you a good 10 trips probably

 

[harbanyof]

So i spent about 100 dollars on a gram of 50x, lol still have it laying around, only tried it once and it was too intense and unbarable body high. By the time you sober up it fells like the receptors in your brain are completly fried out, it makes you not wanna do nothing.
save ur money!

 

[Xtc <3]

Salvia is so damn intense, probably THE most intense drug there is imo.
Be careful, treat it with respect, that shit will rip you a new one if you breakthrough.

 

[junctionalfunkie]

No.

Some people love it, but I am most certainly not one of them.

 

[vegan]

the short answer to the question in the thread title is: no.

the short answer to the question in the thread title is: yes.

and when you're considering an experience such as salvia, don't count your bucks. it's ridiculous and actually hints at the fact that salvia is probably not what you're looking for


yes, salvia is worth it
just for the knowledge that such a thing is possible

just for experiencing first hand brainwashing that you thought was impossible

counting a few bucks for a salvia experience is like counting your pennies while considering a trip to another galaxy
some things don't have a price
if it wasn't readily available, some people would rightly pay huge amounts to discover the salvia experience

have you ever communicated with the spirit of a plant without thinking afterwards that you were raving?
if you're interested, take the ride

if you're just out of weed, get a foot massage instead

Some people love it, but I am most certainly not one of them.

it's not about liking it or not
it's about discovering something weirder than you could start imagining

discovery can be more rewarding than classic fun

 

[contrast dismissal]

IME, we smoked leaves through a pipe mixed with a few other things.
As mentioned, it was almost a waste. I managed to push - jusssst - past threshold dose and had some kindergarten visuals. Wasn't challenging, wasn't scary, but even at a small dose, wasn't recreational. The stoned-ish feeling was not social and i think we made the right choice to do it at the end of a quiet night, and go straight to bed after. Good sleep too, if i recall

I too, don't recommend pushing your face through untried, mindblowing psychedelic experiences due to sunday afternoon boredom.
First and last time I did that with a dose of DXM on a schoolnight...

Phys Ed was weIRDDD...

 

[Black]

it's not about liking it or not
it's about discovering something weirder than you could start imagining

discovery can be more rewarding than classic fun

but why smoke salvia when you can have both with dmt. as an added i don't feel like being mentally raped as is the case with salvia.

 

[psood0nym]

^ You say that with DMT we can have "both," but "both" refers to two experiential categories that are incomprehensibly vast. Losing one still leaves the endless multitude subsumed by the other.

 

[jamaica0535]

Unless you break through it is rather pointless....

And if you do break through the intensity is on the level of nothing you have ever done.....

Imagine if you will reality being ripped apart into a billion little pieces, sucked down an imaginary but entirely real drain and once you come out at the other end the billion pieces of reality (including you) are all thrown back together into some strange alien world that seems completely real, as real as anything has been your whole life really.

What this world you end up in exactly is really all up to chance and your own mind.... there is no control over it. You might be hurled into the abyss. You might become a tree for a few lifetimes, or maybe a couch. Maybe you get to experience your death and judgment in a daytime tv scenario. Or you might just not break through at all and still be sitting in your living room.

Is it worth a shot at least once? yea, i will never do it again though.
Is it fun? not really, it tends to be far more terrifying than fun.

 

[Black]

^ You say that with DMT we can have "both," but "both" refers to two experiential categories that are incomprehensibly vast. Losing one still leaves the endless multitude subsumed by the other.

(i'm not quite sure i understand what you mean. maybe this helps?: )
with "both" i ment that you could be "discovering something weirder than you could start imagining" while having fun and feeling excellent.

so why settle for just "discovering something weirder…" when you can do that while having fun.
of course if you have a lot of experience with classical psychedelics (and/or dissociatives) and want to push the enverpole even further salvia is a legitimate option, but when you have (next to) no experience with them choosing to try salvia when there are better alternatives available sounds like masochism to me.

 

[fatstep]

It's soemthing I'd recommend at least trying. Most odn't find it particularly enjoyable but leave the experience with usually one of three reactions. What the fuck? Oh my God! or Holy shit! You can feel like you're being pulled apart and noises start distorting with a big enough hit through a bong youll be thrown into a world that's only comparable to dmt's immense abibilty to put you in a different world instantly. It's fun but sometimes you cant talk on it and cant see and shit. It can be scary but youll probably be too much like "what the fuck! to even be scared

 

[guerillabedlam]

Imagine if you will reality being ripped apart into a billion little pieces, sucked down an imaginary but entirely real drain and once you come out at the other end the billion pieces of reality (including you) are all thrown back together into some strange alien world that seems completely real, as real as anything has been your whole life really.

What this world you end up in exactly is really all up to chance and your own mind.... there is no control over it. You might be hurled into the abyss. You might become a tree for a few lifetimes, or maybe a couch. Maybe you get to experience your death and judgment in a daytime tv scenario. Or you might just not break through at all and still be sitting in your living room.

Is it worth a shot at least once? yea, i will never do it again though.
Is it fun? not really, it tends to be far more terrifying than fun.

You redeemed yourself with the 2nd paragraph but trying to explain the mental salvia experience through metaphors and illustrative language is pretty pointless and does the experience no justice.

If you are curious go for it, but it's short and dysphoric for the majority of people. Occasionally people will laugh on it but it's not necessarily fun, i think it's more of just a reaction . Most people I know don't really bring back any knowledge or learn anything from their initial trips with it. It was the first drug where I was like 'that's not possible.' The 10x sounds more legitimate.

 

[Cid Jester]

All bad. I never enjoy it and I refuse to do it again. I hadn't done it for 3 years and my buddy had some the other day so I decided to smoke some. Like everytime I have done it before. Intense anxiety.

 

[jamaica0535]

The first paragraph was my subjective description of what the saliva experience is for me. Its too weird, words don't do it justice but it points in a decent direction...

The 2nd paragraph was really just to explain the lack of control in where your brain will go, i use these examples because most of them have happened to people i have known and myself.

Do not let a salvia experience turn you away from doing something like DMT. The only thing similiar betweeen these two drugs are levels of intensity. DMT is beautiful in every regard, salvia is often very strange and i find it difficult to decipher much meaning out of anything. Salvia has had a tendency to make me, and others i have talked to stare into the face of death, and not just a typical "ego" death, like just standing around in this place and then just getting the notion in your head that the only reason for how crazy things are is that your dead.

 

[itrip_iroll_iblaze]

10x extract for the first time would be pretty intense. i first tried 30x. and it was pretty awesome. i immidietly got some 20x extract and wow. i thought it was amazing. ive done it 4 times now, and never had a bad trip. i just laugh tons and see crazy shit. I was in a theme park once. it was awesome. One of my friends is petrified of kangaroos because of it. Another thought she was in a lego house, and seeing lego people. Ive also had one friend, stupid friend, make brownies out of it. Bad. Tripped for over an hour hardcore, not a good one. I reccommend smoking a smaller X first and see how you like it. Just make sure you hold it in longer than 30 seconds, which is hard with a pipe. And dont take multiple rips your first time. And! just make sure your not worried about being caught, happy etc. Like tripping, just be calm.

Edit, like 10 seconds later: ive heard, ive never done it, but sprikling some dank with it makes it last longer and your happier.