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Salvia, is it worth it?

Go check out YouTube videos of Salvia trips. Salvia IS NOT euphoric. You won't "get high" from it. You will "rocket into insanity" rather.

I have deep respect for a substance that can destroy my cognitive references, play with me like a puppet and take me on an unforgettable ride into a realm of delirium in the frame of 5 minutes. She is definitely a powerful one...

I say go for some 20X if you can find some.... 10X is pretty weak, never did anything to me.

Just know; Salvia will NEVER quench your drug-fiend thirst. Instead it will detect it and kick your ass, fuck you up, tear you a new asshole, laugh at you and then spit you back out and leave you like 8o

I say go for it! It is one of the safest and one of the most powerful.
At worst, you will learn your lesson in a harsh way that cannot be described in an online forum.

Smoke and learn. She will destroy you.
(Then you'll run crying back to your marijuana)
 
Go for it homie.

Sally D was the first drug I tried next to weed, and it was AWESOME.

I just went in not expecting much and I was blown away.

Good vibes.
 
Salvia is interesting. It's the only drug I've done (out of over 40, including every class of psychedelics) that has reliably (aka every time I've done it except once) horrified me. Yet I keep going back to it. It's hard to determine how you'd feel about it before you try it, it has incredably disphoric properties (although many people don't find this to be true) but it's one of the strangest and most interesting trips. I think it's worth using it occaisionally, simply because it's five minutes of severe discomfort for an incredably weird and interesting trip. I'd say it's definitly worth trying, a gram will last quite a while. On another note- coming down from salvia tends to feel rather good, and low doses or low potency extracts (5x) aren't nearly as harsh as the high potency extracts. 10x is a pretty good place to start to try and get a feel for the substance.
 
Black said:
(i'm not quite sure i understand what you mean. maybe this helps?: )
with "both" i ment that you could be "discovering something weirder than you could start imagining" while having fun and feeling excellent.

so why settle for just "discovering something weirder…" when you can do that while having fun.
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What I mean is that saliva is far more than the weirdness of DMT minus fun and excellent feelings. Because DMT and salvia are very different types of weird, one can't be substituted for the other. The OP asked if salvia was a drug one should do at least once in their life in post #5 because they wanted to get it before it was made illegal, not whether he or she should try it before other psychedelics. It's worth it to pick up should someone decide to use it.

Saliva operates by a fundamentally different mechanism than any of the other tools of mind expansion that are widely available and grants access to realms never before explored in history. There's nothing else that does what it does, which makes it indispensable. What it does may not necessarily be enjoyable, but it is nevertheless unique and profound. It would be remiss for any psychologically healthy person who is interested in the totality of experience and serious about expanding their mind into the massive spaces beyond the domain of the overtly pleasurable to dismiss it.

I recommend combining saliva with a dissociative to lessen the dysphoric body feelings.
 
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psood0nym said:
What I mean is that saliva is far more than the weirdness of DMT plus fun and excellent feelings. Because DMT and salvia are very different types of weird, one can't be substituted for the other.
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agreed.[/quote] The OP asked if salvia was a drug one should do at least once in their life in post #5 because they wanted to get it before it was made illegal, not whether he or she should try it before other psychedelics. It's worth it to pick up should someone decide to use it.
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to me post #5 reads like the op is looking to salvia for a weed substitute (didn't notice a point about it being made illegal in the thread. i guess i should read more carefully). salvia is something one should try at least once if one is interested in utterly strange alien weird mindfuck. otherwise i'd not recommend it as it could cause overly traumatic experiences (BL's a harm reduction board after all... ;) ) or turn someone off psychs forever.
 
Whoops, I see above I should've written my post more carefully. It should read: "...saliva is far more than the weirdness of DMT minus fun and excellent feelings."

Black said:
to me post #5 reads like the op is looking to salvia for a weed substitute (didn't notice a point about it being made illegal in the thread. i guess i should read more carefully). salvia is something one should try at least once if one is interested in utterly strange alien weird mindfuck. otherwise i'd not recommend it as it could cause overly traumatic experiences (BL's a harm reduction board after all... ) or turn someone off psychs forever.
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I see. I agree people should know what they're getting into. Then again, I've watched a person who had previous psychedelic experience, who was told the stories, and who I told "no other drug can prepare you for salvia," smoke it and get psychologically traumatized anyways. If a person is sensitive to salvia, then I'm not sure their interest in a weird mindfuck qualifies as consent in the same way it tends to with the classical psychedelics, because there's no way for them to really understand what they're in for (with maybe the exception of previous use of smoked/IV DMT, which would help them appreciate the raw intensity at least).
 
420smoker said:
Ok So im tempted to buy a gram of some 10x salvia extract online, Its like 12 bucks and i wana experience it before it becomes illegal in my state. Is the trip worth the 12 bucks? And on average how many trips is in one gram of salvia? Also I have another option of buying an ounce of salvia for like 11 bucks, which should i get? Lastly What's the best website with best quality for the cheapest money? one that wont steal my money please. Any help is appreciated!
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if its still legal in your state then i think you should buy a live plant and do your best to keep it alive if you can. not to keep once its illegal.. but because chewing on fresh salvia leaves is fucking awesome, and smoking freshly dried leaves is like crystally nuggs vs. schwag. fuck, just checked and it doesn't look like you can buy it off ebay anymore..

that said, try anyway.. and if you can't get a live plant go with the leaf.. the dried leaf is strong enough and can blast you into another dimension. people are sometimes like, gosh, i didn't have an epileptic seizure on the floor, i just got a mellow buzz and a peaceful feeling, bummer! :D

also, its smart to do it now while its legal. its not always the most euphoric or pleasant experience, but there's a lot to learn.. and while its legal and you can get it safely is a great time to do that.
 
I smoke salvia 25x at least once a week, and I find it very recreational. However, it's a highly unpredictable drug, like most psychedellics and dissociatives (to me, it's more of a dissociative). Some people have horrible experiences on it, while others like myself often have dreamlike trances which aren't unpleasant at all. The high is very intense, but it doesn't last long. 10 to 20 minutes at the most.
 
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For me, no,

It carried too much of an unpleasant bodily feeling, the dissoccativeness or whatever you call it. I don't like being taken completely away from my surroundings. but that was back when I was 16, which was when my drug index was weed and pills, no psychs. I bought salvia in the hopes that I could have a psychedelic experience similar to shrooms or LSD, but its completely different.

I like to find things out for myself, using personal experience to guide my choices and thoughts rather than what others say. And as far as mind-altering substances goes, I am always down to try something new. Of course, after much research is done, whether its from hippie chumps at Bluelight =D (JK you guys are the best!) or from PIHKAL/TIHKAL, or some online journal, or maybe do a google search and find info on other drug forums. Although I really wouldn't suggest anything besides BL because here is where you'll find the humble, well educated, well versed with lots of experience type of people, who give it straight up.

If anything I suggest you try more classic psychedelics and get a feel for what that is like (AKA dont make the mistake I made). For my, the older I got, from my first psychoactive experience with weed the day before my 16th birthday, to my current 19 year old self who is all about the research chemicals.

Another Ramble,
but hopefully that helps answer your question somewhat
 
CaptainAmerica said:
For me, no,

It carried too much of an unpleasant bodily feeling, the dissoccativeness or whatever you call it. I don't like being taken completely away from my surroundings. but that was back when I was 16, which was when my drug index was weed and pills, no psychs. I bought salvia in the hopes that I could have a psychedelic experience similar to shrooms or LSD, but its completely different.

I like to find things out for myself, using personal experience to guide my choices and thoughts rather than what others say. And as far as mind-altering substances goes, I am always down to try something new. Of course, after much research is done, whether its from hippie chumps at Bluelight =D (JK you guys are the best!) or from PIHKAL/TIHKAL, or some online journal, or maybe do a google search and find info on other drug forums. Although I really wouldn't suggest anything besides BL because here is where you'll find the humble, well educated, well versed with lots of experience type of people, who give it straight up.

If anything I suggest you try more classic psychedelics and get a feel for what that is like (AKA dont make the mistake I made). For my, the older I got, from my first psychoactive experience with weed the day before my 16th birthday, to my current 19 year old self who is all about the research chemicals.

Another Ramble,
but hopefully that helps answer your question somewhat
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Well said CaptainAmerica!
A good read.
I smoked my first puff of weed when i was about that age, expecting pretty much every cliche 70's acid trip drug effect...
When i eventually got my first taste of lsd a year later, it was nothing i could've prepared for!
Often my "hollywood montage" ideas of what a drug would be like have only wasted the first hours of something much much cooler than those cliches...
 
Smoking Salvia as a substitute for pot is one of the biggest mistakes you can make with it. I guarantee the most common. People simply walk into it without knowing what to expect.

I, personally, love it. It's not an "easy" drug. The experience in and of itself is very unpleasant. It's also unlike anything else I've ever tried. But I'm still able to get a lot out of it. The entire reason I'm going off Venlafaxine (SNRI antidepressant) is because of a Salvia trip.
 
I've done it at least 3 times that I can think of. I enjoyed it every time. The worst thing I've ever felt from it was a little bit of nausea and dizziness. I agree with it being unpredictable. None of the times I did it, it even seemed like the same drug really. I've had some really odd experiences (one time another version of "me" except with shorter hair and different clothes came into my bedroom and proceeded to tell me repeatedly that I needed to "go make dinner" WTF?) but never did I experience any fear or bad emotions while on it.
 
I always felt terrible after smoking it, it's like being stuck between multiple dimensions and my body is crying out in pain...It is rather funny to watch other people smoke it though, so by all means get it, try it, then laugh at your friends when they start clinging to walls.
 
MynameisnotDeja said:
(one time another version of "me" except with shorter hair and different clothes came into my bedroom and proceeded to tell me repeatedly that I needed to "go make dinner" WTF?) but never did I experience any fear or bad emotions while on it.
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For me it's a yes. Did I get anything out of it? nope. Would I do it again, I doubt it. Like many others are saying the only thing I ever got out of it was knowing such a thing is even possible. A lot of people are saying it's not euphoric/ there is no recreational value (no point of not breaking through) to which I kind of disagree. It was a stupid high school drug for me. Those low doses just make you laugh your ass off and can be a fun time with friends imo.

It's funny looking back, it is one of the strangest and most powerful substances out there. Nobody I hung out with at the time though of it that way, just some new legal high. I never had a terrifying experience on it but I think it's because I didn't know what I was fucking with. After not having done if for years and hearing the horror stories from other people (internet included) if I were to do it again I would likely expect the worst. Well at least my Salvia trip stories are pretty entertaining, they make for a good laugh (I guess that's something I got out of it lol)

... I think I still have old Salvia in my room. It's been there for like a year or two. That's the kind of drug Salvia is I guess lol
 
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