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The 3-FMC/4-FMC (Flephedrone) Megathread

wouldn't mind trying this one, though generally I don't like much that falls under the "legal high" catagory this one sounds like it might be worth a try for comparisons to others.
 
ranunky said:
hey dude, what's the comedown like off this fleph? Is it as bad as mdpv? Or as mild as good mdma?
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MDPV is pure HORROR/HELL or whatever to call the experience of that garbage, 4FMP has a very gentle comedown, its nothing compared to the comedown of MDMA. The high is nothing compared to MDMA either, but its good for those days you dont wonna be completely fucked up.
 
MeDieViL said:
MDPV is pure HORROR/HELL or whatever to call the experience of that garbage, 4FMP has a very gentle comedown, its nothing compared to the comedown of MDMA. The high is nothing compared to MDMA either, but its good for those days you dont wonna be completely fucked up.
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MeD are you on about the FMC, or the FMP? I got some 4-FMP, never tried it, trying to find out what I can.....Ta

Monk...x
 
This is the flephedrone megathread, fleph is 4FMC (3FMC is being discussed here too), so i'm talking about 4FMC.

For 4FMP there are other threads. Only tried it once in combination with other stuff, so i dont really have a good idea abou that chem.
 
Lets get down to brass tacks here:
Why is this the most confusing thread on all of BL?
Because people keep comparing and then mixing up the drugs.

So WHAT IS IN CHARGE (active ingredient) and what does it do?
WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE OTHER ONE AVAILABLE IN rip off merchant shops?

While we're on the subject how many b-ks are there? which end in one?

I know all about methylone, butylone, buphedrone and methadrone..
Now how many others are there and what are there actions on the brain and body.

This thread needs unfucking right now.
Possibly by some sort of scientific God and some drug addict who has access to everything.........
 
Both 3-FMC and 4-FMC are sold as "Flephedrone" so it's a double whammy thread until whoever makes up these silly 'drone names decides which to go with. I think Charge went with 3-FMC. Dunno how many beta-ketones there potentially are but I suspect there may be more shitty drugs sold with a 'drone suffix to come yet.
 
somedrone ™ the shitty cathinone in many legal highs
megadrone ™ some other shitty cathinone
betterdrone ™ some perhapsnot quite so shitty cathinone
supadrone ™ some less shitty, but still pretty shitty cathinone
bonedrone ™ cathinione and viagra mix

names all just trademarked by me.
and finally

incessant-drone ™ - the bleating noise mephedrone users seem to make.

the analysis of flephedrone isomers is really difficult by GCMS, they look practically identical the only real difference is that 2-fluoromethcathinone falls apart more in the injector and makes an ugly looking GC trace. Tthe identification of 4 or 3 fluoromethcathinone needs a reference sample. Recent total trading charge+ looks like 3-fluoromethcathinone still.
 
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Yes vektor, make some up please....:|
Come on someone must know the full lot of them....I haven't even mentioned shambles "favourite" ever drug mephedrone yet;)
 
50 mg of 3-FMC insufflated gives nice clearheaded stimulation - somewhat similar to cocaine but with much less ego inflation. It would make a nice social lubricant.

Mild sweating observed, body temp seems normal, slight cotton mouth. No noticeable comedown at least at that dosage level besides the usual "Fuck,itsover,needtotopup" aspect one usually experiences at the tail end of a stim experience, nowhere near the level of 4-methylmethcathinone however, very manageable.

Duration of main recreational effects: 1.5 hours

Back to baseline in 3 hours
 
What's the difference between 3-FMC & 4-FMC, if there is any?
And how are things as far as dosing goes?
 
IRL.icecoolmadness said:
50 mg of 3-FMC insufflated gives nice clearheaded stimulation - somewhat similar to cocaine but with much less ego inflation. It would make a nice social lubricant.

Mild sweating observed, body temp seems normal, slight cotton mouth. No noticeable comedown at least at that dosage level besides the usual "Fuck,itsover,needtotopup" aspect one usually experiences at the tail end of a stim experience, nowhere near the level of 4-methylmethcathinone however, very manageable.

Duration of main recreational effects: 1.5 hours

Back to baseline in 3 hours
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good post
 
Shambles said:
Both 3-FMC and 4-FMC are sold as "Flephedrone" so it's a double whammy thread until whoever makes up these silly 'drone names decides which to go with. I think Charge went with 3-FMC. Dunno how many beta-ketones there potentially are but I suspect there may be more shitty drugs sold with a 'drone suffix to come yet.
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hi does anybody have an idea whats in charge+, ive been at it for a year now every couple of weekends, and have never found anything even close to it outta all the chems availiable on the web and headsites ect. would be nice to know what im shoving up me hooter on a regular basis. 1st post btw love this forum<3<3<3
 
eggymandoo said:
hi does anybody have an idea whats in charge+, ive been at it for a year now every couple of weekends, and have never found anything even close to it outta all the chems availiable on the web and headsites ect. would be nice to know what im shoving up me hooter on a regular basis. 1st post btw love this forum<3<3<3
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Mainly 3-FMC and caffeine.
 
RCs - Good, but can land you in the madhouse!

Shambles said:
Taking a small amount works okay with meph and M1, but not with stuff like MDPV - let's hope desoxy stays well clear of the legal high market 8(8o8(

When an active dose is measured in single-digit mgs you can't ever safely cut it with fuck knows what and sell it on at extortionate profits anything close to safely.

Customer reviews may or may not be true, as noted. They are rarely very extensive either way. Especially on the sites you buy them from.

The "companies" that sell such things are often fly-by-nights set up by some fella in a bedsit.
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DESOXY!! If anyone even dared to think about marketing a legal high with DESOXY they deserve to have 100mg focibly plugged up their 'wrong'un'

I think desoxypiperadone must hold the UK record for RC chemical directly leading to sectioning under the mental health act. From personal and anecdotal experience desoxy is a prime example of RC-madness.

Stage 1 - some postgrad pharmacologists whip up a batch of shulgin-inspired or pharma-tested analog
Stage 2 - 3-4 positive trip reports are posted by sensible guinea pigs lie F&B
Stage 3 - People get excited that a 'new' analogue is out there costing pennies per dose.
Stage 4 - Other PG pharmacologists, in search search of beer money make up a batch, buy the desoxy.co.uk domain name and start knocking out Gs to anyone with a paypal account.
Stage 4b - The Chinese, never slow to miss a trick start producing by the Kilo
Stage 5 - Sensible RC vets enjoy
Stage 6 - Smartpants 'Business man' (student with a bit of nous) imports 5kg drum from China, sets up website etc etc
Stage 7 - Large number of people begin to turn up at A&E, followed by large number of people, not having sleapt for 2 weeks, being sectioned.
STage 8 - Lessons learnt? Very Few.

If you insist on being a guinea pig for RCs do your research beforehand. Scoure ADD (probably the best resource on the internet for noobs to gain some insight into pharmacology), start thread in BDD, quoting chemical by all known names.

As rule leave RCs to the big boys, don't trust anything you are told in a headshop - and remember, just because it's legal doesn't mean it's safe.

Oh, and never consume 1g of desoxy in one sitting :-)8o8o8o
 
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