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The 3-FMC/4-FMC (Flephedrone) Megathread

No anxiety is a huge plus. Its less toxic than mephedrone and the comedowns are better? How is sleeping the next day?
 
so theres no use redosing this stuff any more as I only get stimulated without euphoria. Time to call this a session and now try to get myself to sleep. That will be one hell of a challenge, although I have kratom and zolpidem.
 
Vacuumhed said:
One of the few stimulants I've tried that doesn't make the heart pound fast, impressive. Also lacks the anxiety although im on my 8th redose, I don't feel like my muscles and nerves being chained together.

This is def. a stimulant, 4-FMC, I will keep my eyes on. Not much creativity boost, though, but its got its ups.
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Yeah, its a very clean stim%)
 
After reading this thread I'd quite like to give flephedrone a try I think. Not the branded stuff tho, would need to be the pure powder. Is it covered by the ban I take it?

I like the sound of it not making the heart beat so fast and no muscle tension. :)

How long does a dose last? Does it give a rush like meph, only without the empathy?
 
captain codshit said:
After reading this thread I'd quite like to give flephedrone a try I think. Not the branded stuff tho, would need to be the pure powder. Is it covered by the ban I take it?

I like the sound of it not making the heart beat so fast and no muscle tension. :)

How long does a dose last? Does it give a rush like meph, only without the empathy?
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Yeah its covered by the UK ban as its a cathinone, if you order it i suggest to not order 3FMC but 4FMC as 3FMC really sounds shitty, never tried it myself tough.

If your looking for a meph like buzz your going to be disappointed, its a mild high but very clean.
 
No not looking for a meph type buzz at all. Just the idea of it being a quite clean straightforward stim where you can still sleep ok and not much of a comedown sounded quite appealing.

My mate has ordered some MDAI and Dimethocaine to try aswell. So may try a little of those soon. Flephedrone sounds like it would be worth trying some before the ban if could get it. :\
 
MeDieViL said:
Yeah its covered by the UK ban as its a cathinone, if you order it i suggest to not order 3FMC but 4FMC as 3FMC really sounds shitty, never tried it myself tough.

If your looking for a meph like buzz your going to be disappointed, its a mild high but very clean.
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I agree. 3FMC makes my heart pound (miles more than meph) and the comedowns are a lot worse.

Buzz is nowhere near like meph. It's good, but to me more like coke where meph is more like pills.
 
^ Maybe people are simply taking too much 3-FMC thinking it's like mephedrone?

In my experience and considering the release numbers of the related amphetamine analouges (3-fa, 4-MMA). 3-FMC is a much stronger stimulant(more affinity for DA/NE) than mephedrone and should be treated as such, 50-70mg nasally of 3-FMC for me produced a solid clean stimulation.

I do guess that since 3-FMC lacks the euphoria due to it lacking serotonin affinity, people smash it harder to try at reach their expectations of euphoria from previous mephedrone experiences. This only leads to an over stimulating state. I feel, if one is simply after a clean awake clear headed state of mind with an improvement in mood, then 3-FMC suits that purpouse well. But it ain't one to get wankered on, just more as an "aid".
 
captain codshit said:
No not looking for a meph type buzz at all. Just the idea of it being a quite clean straightforward stim where you can still sleep ok and not much of a comedown sounded quite appealing.

My mate has ordered some MDAI and Dimethocaine to try aswell. So may try a little of those soon. Flephedrone sounds like it would be worth trying some before the ban if could get it. :\
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4-fmc is much more subtle than 4-mmc. Some MDPV or other stim alongside 4-fmc is very enjoyable.

Word of warning regarding dimethocaine, I've had various batches from different sources and all have been different. The price also varies from £3 per gram to £7 per gram in larger ammounts.
The best stuff I've tried (£7/g) was clear white repress cocaine like texture, chemical cokey like smell and taste and numbed about half that of repress coke. The worst stuff I question if it was even dimethocaine. You get what you pay for
 
Tried snorting 200mg's of 4-FMC last night... and my god did it hurt.
Nearly vommited as soon as I railed it, tasted awful and burnt far worse than 12mg of 2C-I.
The pain took about 30 mins to dissipate and during that time I was running round in circles holding my nose with tears streaming from my right eye, highly reccomended if you like a bit of pain prior to your euphoria.
What followed was a pretty lame rush followed by weird muscle tension and anxiety for about 6 hours.
Also I dont know if anyone else experiences this with fleph but the skin sort of connecting my left armpit to my left nipple has some really uncomfortable feelings in it, not to mention heart palpatations and shortness of breath towards the end of the high.
To me mephedrone feels as though its doing much less damage, much better high as well.
 
Xtc <3 said:
Tried snorting 200mg's of 4-FMC last night... and my god did it hurt.
Nearly vommited as soon as I railed it, tasted awful and burnt far worse than 12mg of 2C-I.
The pain took about 30 mins to dissipate and during that time I was running round in circles holding my nose with tears streaming from my right eye, highly reccomended if you like a bit of pain prior to your euphoria.
What followed was a pretty lame rush followed by weird muscle tension and anxiety for about 6 hours.
Also I dont know if anyone else experiences this with fleph but the skin sort of connecting my left armpit to my left nipple has some really uncomfortable feelings in it, not to mention heart palpatations and shortness of breath towards the end of the high.
To me mephedrone feels as though its doing much less damage, much better high as well.
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Lol, sounds like my first reaction to this stuff.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?p=7909036#post7909036

Turns out i took way too much, now love it:)
 
Am I allowed to ask if this chemical is legal? In a few other places it seemed like people felt that asking about which RCs is legal was along the lines of helping people break the law (not talking about the valid research thread).

Where can somebody get a list of legal in the US RCs?
 
I'll hopefully be trying the 4-FMC quite soon. Xtc <3: Railing a 200mg line on your first time? I'm not really surprised it hurt man. Too much at once, 50-100mg is a better size to start with surely. If your going to do that much you'd be aswell just bombing it. :)
 
Yeah, its a waste because not all of it can contact the mucous membranes and you only absorb it when you get the drips.
 
organicshroom said:
^ Maybe people are simply taking too much 3-FMC thinking it's like mephedrone?

In my experience and considering the release numbers of the related amphetamine analouges (3-fa, 4-MMA). 3-FMC is a much stronger stimulant(more affinity for DA/NE) than mephedrone and should be treated as such, 50-70mg nasally of 3-FMC for me produced a solid clean stimulation.

I do guess that since 3-FMC lacks the euphoria due to it lacking serotonin affinity, people smash it harder to try at reach their expectations of euphoria from previous mephedrone experiences. This only leads to an over stimulating state. I feel, if one is simply after a clean awake clear headed state of mind with an improvement in mood, then 3-FMC suits that purpouse well. But it ain't one to get wankered on, just more as an "aid".
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Very true. Did a g of 3-FMC once and felt absolutely poisoned the next day. And half the day after.

And you defo have to mix with booze. Did it once without and was very underwhelmed.
 
After a whole lot of experimenting, I have a final word: Lame stimulant.

You never reach a desired stimulated state, always left like a lot of a high is missing, which means you can OD pretty easily while hoping to "reach that place". Naphyrone was way better than this stuff, but after hearing about its potetial carcinogenity, I dunno if I will be ordering more.

No thanks, no more 4-FMC. I damn hope the RC side will see something decent soon enough, but my hope has vanished from all the misses. Meanwhile, dexamphetamine ftw.
 
The Kid said:
Very true. Did a g of 3-FMC once and felt absolutely poisoned the next day. And half the day after.

And you defo have to mix with booze. Did it once without and was very underwhelmed.
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a gr of 3-fmc. did you combo it with some onther things?
 
Vacuumhed said:
After a whole lot of experimenting, I have a final word: Lame stimulant.

You never reach a desired stimulated state, always left like a lot of a high is missing, which means you can OD pretty easily while hoping to "reach that place". Naphyrone was way better than this stuff, but after hearing about its potetial carcinogenity, I dunno if I will be ordering more.

No thanks, no more 4-FMC. I damn hope the RC side will see something decent soon enough, but my hope has vanished from all the misses. Meanwhile, dexamphetamine ftw.
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Can you describe (or better post a pic) of the 4-fmc you had? All these reports of major burning and lame stimulation don't fit in with my experience.

The time I did fuck up I had naphyrone a few hours earlier and I thought the drug had worn off. I blamed fleph at the time but highly doubt it was fleph repsonsible
 
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