Police and FDA raid local herbal stores

randomusername1234 said:
I am no longer shocked that law enforcement allows businesses to continue to operate for an extending period of time before making a bust. It is clearly in their best interest. Law enforcement does not care about preventing drugs from getting on the streets, they want to make money. Forfeiture laws have turned asset seizure into a money making opportunity for the police. They allow businesses such as BBB to continue selling products for as long as possible, so that there is the maximum amount of money available for the feds to seize. In this manner the federal government is the actual provider of the products because they eventually seize all the profits of their sales and allowed the sales to continue long after they were aware of them. The police have become professional thieves. They don't believe their bullshit about drugs being dangerous, this is all about money.
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Excellent post. Welcome to Bluelight.
 
randomusername1234 said:
I am no longer shocked that law enforcement allows businesses to continue to operate for an extending period of time before making a bust. It is clearly in their best interest. Law enforcement does not care about preventing drugs from getting on the streets, they want to make money. Forfeiture laws have turned asset seizure into a money making opportunity for the police. They allow businesses such as BBB to continue selling products for as long as possible, so that there is the maximum amount of money available for the feds to seize. In this manner the federal government is the actual provider of the products because they eventually seize all the profits of their sales and allowed the sales to continue long after they were aware of them. The police have become professional thieves. They don't believe their bullshit about drugs being dangerous, this is all about money.
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Awesome post man, you have hit the nail on the head.
 
TouchN' Stuff Blvd said:
This is indeed very very sad. I really hope Bouncing bear will be able to raise enough money by continueing to sell their non contested products to help the owner out, or that he does have some sort of back up plan.
The list of charges is a little ambiguous, only a few of the mentioned substances are actually illegal, such as DMT. Hopefully Sloan will be able to argue his way out of many of the charges
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Note the comments about seizure of assets. The government does not even care to get a conviction, I promise you. This is their lowest priority. They care about the money they just stole... that's numero uno to this dirty rat bastard government. In fact, money appears to the root virtually every corrupt issue in government if you dig deep enough. It certainly is not about 'justice' or 'improving' the country.

Chris
 
The fact that the FDA was the lead on this raid doesn't surprise me at all, in the past year several people online who had bought herbal mixtures and legal high type products were contacted by the criminal investigation arm of the FDA for statements. This is just the biggest name raid so far.

Basically anything people can consume that is being sold as not for human consumption is a target, whether its scheduled or not. One guy said in his phone conversation with the FDA they consider all these legal high and herbal products unapproved new drugs being marketed no matter whether it says not for human consumption or not. The people targeted will likely be charged with "misbranding" of drugs, likely the FDA is being used instead of the DEA since these substances are not scheduled.

I'd expect to see more FDA raids and seizues to come for sellers of unscheduled substances.
 
garuda said:
Basically anything people can consume that is being sold as not for human consumption is a target, whether its scheduled or not. One guy said in his phone conversation with the FDA they consider all these legal high and herbal products unapproved new drugs being marketed no matter whether it says not for human consumption or not. The people targeted will likely be charged with "misbranding" of drugs, likely the FDA is being used instead of the DEA since these substances are not scheduled.
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This sounds like they are turning the law on its head. It will soon be a case of every new substance being illegal by default until the Government make it legal (Or keep it illegal!)
 
That's what the FDA was intended for all along. A law passed in 1994 paved the way for a grey market in "supplements". You're not supposed to be able to eat, drink, or smoke anything not approved by the FDA. There's legislation being worked on by Senator Orrin Hatch, the 2010 Dietary Supplement Safety Act, will change things so that only large pharmaceutical companies (and the largest supplement manufacturers, mostly located in Utah where Hatch is the senator) will be able to afford to comply with the regulations necessary to sell even things like VITAMINS.
 
7zark7 said:
This sounds like they are turning the law on its head. It will soon be a case of every new substance being illegal by default until the Government make it legal (Or keep it illegal!)
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Well when you get right down to it every substance is illegal to sell without FDA approval, and has been for a long time.

I recall reading a article recently about "black market" exotic fruits sold "illegally" since they are not FDA approved. Apparently even exotic fruits require FDA approval before being sold in the US. And I remember FDA raids on immigrant groceries in Houston years ago over armadillo meat and some other animals being sold. They were not claiming that the meat was unfit for consumption, just that dillo's and other animals are not FDA approved so no meat from them can not legally be sold.
 
Coolio said:
That's what the FDA was intended for all along. A law passed in 1994 paved the way for a grey market in "supplements". You're not supposed to be able to eat, drink, or smoke anything not approved by the FDA. There's legislation being worked on by Senator Orrin Hatch, the 2010 Dietary Supplement Safety Act, will change things so that only large pharmaceutical companies (and the largest supplement manufacturers, mostly located in Utah where Hatch is the senator) will be able to afford to comply with the regulations necessary to sell even things like VITAMINS.
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That does not surprise me in the slightest. Seems to tie-in with what I have heard about the WHO's Codex Alimentarius and the EU's Food Supplements Directive. Worrying times...

OT: Yet another example of different authorities in different countries coming up with the same suppressive laws, but under slightly different names. It seems the One World Government is here. Now.
 
Fuck the FDA, they don't even bother trying to hide their corruption-- they just do what they want, because nobody can do shit about it.
 
I do feel bad for the guy - they froze all of his assets and made it difficult for him to hire any legal protection. Meanwhile the police and FDA have as much money as they could ever want at their disposal to try and prosecute this guy. It is like David vs Goliath, just like they said on their web page.
 
wtf?
seriously- what the fuck?
Is this all over the news in usa?
Is this normal procedure??
 
^Well there's not really a procedure per se, the feds just do whatever they want to do. (Making a mockery of our judicial system in the process.)
 
The war on drugs (users of some drugs) is an inquistion - a witch hunt. Psycho politicians don't give a shit about the common man. They don't care if the "justice" system dragnet scoops you up and ruins your life. Big Pharma pays them big bucks to maintain their drug monopoly. Compassion is nothing. Greed and power are everything.
 
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