Heroin/Opioid Thread - Serious Discussion Only

[jon420]

So many movies are made on Heroin, i always wondered what a Heroin high was like but till this day no one has been able to give me a good description of it. Can someone please describe what it feels life, in detail please? I would really love to know. Heroin always seemed mysterious to me

I'm sorry but I think its fucking bullshit you choose to post that in this forum. Many posters here tell of how heroin ruined their life, do you really think they want to be reminded of how good it feels? Surely you could have posted in the OD forum, or looked on erowid?

 

[Georgie25]

Because I took 15mg will my detox restart? I already felt shitty 2 hours after I took it.

I'm ready to keep going through.

I don't think it will restart all the way to the beginning, but it may have brought you back a couple hours or so.

 

[DexterMeth]

QuasiStoned, you live in PA, you should be getting heroin.

 

[Carl Landrover]

Because I took 15mg will my detox restart? I already felt shitty 2 hours after I took it.

I'm ready to keep going through.

There's usually disagreement on the topic and I'm not sure if this is accurate at all, but I don't think it would set you back too much. I'd look at is a tapering dose.

If you had a 150mg habit where your body was adjusted to taking 150mg, this would be 10% of that daily total. Going with the 150mg habit example, if you had stayed on a consistent dose in the days prior to quitting, in the 3 days before you quit you would have consumed 450mg of oxy. If you quit for 3 days, you're at 0mgs where you would normally have consumed another 450mgs. It's a big drop. Taking a small dose may extend the process a few hours, but it might be less severe in the time following. Also, during the time that the oxy was effecting you there may have been a brief period of respite where you can regroup mentally.


I think it depends on your personality and what type of opiate you're using. I'd rather WD for 10 days, but not have it be as severe, where I can still function semi-normally as opposed to 4-5 painful days where I coudn't function normally.


Good luck with everything!


Do you know what type of drug test it is? Does oxycodone show up the standard 5 panel? If you consume a lot of fluids and sweat and urinate enough then you'll probably pass. That might be a low enough dose where it won't be a problem.

 

[raw_smack]

Sorry to hear about your day, DW. I have had a couple of those in the past two weeks when I haven't been able to come up with the money to get my Suboxone filled.

Right now, at 2:30 A.M., I'm rolling pennies trying to come up with the USD $12.39 it is going to cost me to buy my one 8mg tablet. I have about $12 right now, but I also need to put $3-4 in for gas to get to my pharmacy and back.

It is so pathetic that I'm at a point in my life where another $5 would really mean I had no problem, and I am having a hard time coming up with it

I'm thinking of pawning my TI-89 calculator tomorrow, which is worth $100+, but I'll probably only get like $25 for it.

that should keep you sober knowing how pathetic it is to not have a measly 13 dollars. the game isnt for you

 

[raw_smack]

hey guys-- i'm hoping to find an IV opiate expert that can answer this question. prior to last year, i mainly popped norcos... getting up to roughly 10 a day. well, i had some man trouble and got my heart broken, so my habit escalated. when my dealer had morphine, i tried shooting up. i suck at it! it's almost laughable.

well, i just finished a month long run of IV oxycontin. i managed to bruise and bloat both wrists and ankles. ibuprofen makes the pain bearable and the swelling go down a little, but everything is 'lumpy' due to.... missed shots? the pain doesn't seem to be getting worse, but i'm worried because i can't fully straighten my right arm.

i think i may have 'ballooned' veins... btw, what does it mean to balloon a vein? does that mean i'm shooting it in too quickly?

should i be worried about abscesses?

thanks for your answers.... oh wait-- after a month of shooting 160mgs oxy a day, should the WD be very bad?

thanks.

oxy withdrawls are far more serious than heroin withdrawls. do not do this cold turkey. find some suboxone andd wait till your withdrawls kick in

 

[Miss Hollywood]

What about your drug test?



Sorry to hear about your relapse. What's your plan after those bags run out? Did you IV? I was wondering how you were doing lately, hope you stop again

Well the plan is to not do anymore once the bags run out. I don't have the money to buy more anyways. The whole thing kinda happened on a whim. I have an online friend that came to visit me and he knows about my history with heroin and was kinda curious to try it. I had lost all my contacts because I had been clean for so long so I just decided to have my friend drive down "the old smack block" where my dealers always were and got lucky and spotted one. My friend and I bought the two bundles, went back to the hotel room and shot smack all night. I feel a bit guilty about it, my arms are pretty bruised up from using (but luckly since it's winter time, i can get away with wearing long sleeve shirts and sweaters to hide it.)

The funniest part about it is that my friend has been in the military for a very very long time(so he's used to seeing some pretty insane things and has been shot at and whatnot), and to see him flinch while watching me shoot up or to see him whine like a lil baby everytime I shot him up was hilarious!

I have two bags left. Gonna do one tonight and save the other one for the morning. I have "chipped" a bit in the year that I've been clean and havent had a problem but then again I was on suboxone and always had that the fall back on. I have been off suboxone since december and haven't used until last night, but I have to admit it's been really rough handling the cravings and the using dreams.

I still love my cruel but lovely mistress, heroin. But I just don't miss her being in my bed every morning, begging me to feed her....if ya know what I mean.

I'm doing the rest of this dope and thats gonna be it for awhile. I hope.

Addiction....such a confusing thing yet so predictable at the same time ya know?8)

I hope your doin good man! How have ya been? You still clean?

 

[QuasiStoned]

QuasiStoned, you live in PA, you should be getting heroin.

Erm... seems a bit counterproductive though doesn't it I'm sure if I had my heart set on it I could drive to the city and TRY to find a hookup, but I'm not about to do that. I have no friends interested in opiates and I know fucking nothing about how to cop on the streets. I'd be just as likely to get mugged as I would to score a bag of H .

Whatever the case, I'm really trying to clean up anyway. Poppy tea has been fucking my shit up lately, I really can't imagine going on like this. I'm not getting high anymore and I'm going into withdrawals so much quicker than I used to, it's ridiculous.

I used to be able to handle the withdrawals but honestly I can't do it anymore. I used to be able to go 48 hours without a dose and though I'd be withdrawing I COULD do it. These days I'm jumping out of my skin at just 36 hours.

 

[Ashley26]

There's usually disagreement on the topic and I'm not sure if this is accurate at all, but I don't think it would set you back too much. I'd look at is a tapering dose.

If you had a 150mg habit where your body was adjusted to taking 150mg, this would be 10% of that daily total. Going with the 150mg habit example, if you had stayed on a consistent dose in the days prior to quitting, in the 3 days before you quit you would have consumed 450mg of oxy. If you quit for 3 days, you're at 0mgs where you would normally have consumed another 450mgs. It's a big drop. Taking a small dose may extend the process a few hours, but it might be less severe in the time following. Also, during the time that the oxy was effecting you there may have been a brief period of respite where you can regroup mentally.


I think it depends on your personality and what type of opiate you're using. I'd rather WD for 10 days, but not have it be as severe, where I can still function semi-normally as opposed to 4-5 painful days where I coudn't function normally.


Good luck with everything!


Do you know what type of drug test it is? Does oxycodone show up the standard 5 panel? If you consume a lot of fluids and sweat and urinate enough then you'll probably pass. That might be a low enough dose where it won't be a problem.

Thank you for the info! I actually woke up this morning feeling a lot better. 60 hrs since my 120 dose. I know I probably need to count the 15mg of oxy but I felt pretty sick even 2 hours after it.

My body hurts a lot less today and the restlesness has calmed down. Still have the chills a little. But I actually feel like eating today without puking so ill take it as a good sign.

 

[theotherside]

Does anyone else have that feeling that "I can quit opiates this time, all I have to do is blah blah" when they are actually "on" opiates? When I am feeling good from the opiates, I have visions of not taking my dose the following day, excercising the whole day, and starting on my road to being clean. Then the next day comes, I realize all the little things that I don't notice the opiates do for me.....energy for work, no allergy symptoms, etc. ......and I take my dose before my shower . I wish I could actually follow through on my opiate talk but the problem is even when I feel "sober" from opiates when I have taken a small amount(just enough to not be sick) I think I can do anything...then I wake up the next day and can't even go 2 hours without dosing.

 

[Ashley26]

I am actually feeling a lot better today. the watery eyes have stopped, I can actually eat!!! my stomach is still not OK, but the Immodium is helping me stop going every second.

it's amazing how much better I feel today compared with even 12 hours ago.

 

[Ashley26]

god I feel like a new person, this is crazy. my stomach issues are still there definitely, but the aches are gone. I'm about to go out for a walk around NYC< just to get some fresh air since I haven't been outside in 3 days.

 

[DexterMeth]

^keep it up, and definately go out and take a walk. Exercise is very underrated, I don't care if that's a cliche thing to say. The best part of being clean is you won't constatly be feeling like shit!

 

[Ashley26]

went for a walk, was nice, although a ltitle cold. brought out some body chills. I took today off work but I'm definitely feeling like I can return tomorrow.

only thing I've noticed is my legs are completely achey. every joint in them is sore, hurts to walk.

 

[QuasiStoned]

Does anyone else have that feeling that "I can quit opiates this time, all I have to do is blah blah" when they are actually "on" opiates? When I am feeling good from the opiates, I have visions of not taking my dose the following day, excercising the whole day, and starting on my road to being clean. Then the next day comes, I realize all the little things that I don't notice the opiates do for me.....energy for work, no allergy symptoms, etc. ......and I take my dose before my shower . I wish I could actually follow through on my opiate talk but the problem is even when I feel "sober" from opiates when I have taken a small amount(just enough to not be sick) I think I can do anything...then I wake up the next day and can't even go 2 hours without dosing.

Hah yes I get this effect big time. It seems that opiates give me the motivation to want to quit, but of course when the drug runs out you're usually scrambling for another dose.

 

[Ashley26]

Does anyone else have that feeling that "I can quit opiates this time, all I have to do is blah blah" when they are actually "on" opiates? When I am feeling good from the opiates, I have visions of not taking my dose the following day, excercising the whole day, and starting on my road to being clean. Then the next day comes, I realize all the little things that I don't notice the opiates do for me.....energy for work, no allergy symptoms, etc. ......and I take my dose before my shower . I wish I could actually follow through on my opiate talk but the problem is even when I feel "sober" from opiates when I have taken a small amount(just enough to not be sick) I think I can do anything...then I wake up the next day and can't even go 2 hours without dosing.

this has been the story of my life for at least the last 6 months, I could't take it anymore. I would say EVERY day this is my last, I can do this. then I'd find an excuse and get more pills.

I would try and hold out until 1pm, or 2pm, and then just take 20mg of oxycontin (i cut 40s in half), but by the evening I had taken my usual 3 40's and was back to sqaure one. I just couldn't control myself.

part of me wants to go back to them after I'm clean for a few weeks because of my drug test, but another part of be just wants to go back to being Ashley, because i know I can't control it anymore, it's bigger than me.

 

[QuasiStoned]

I must say that whenever I start to taper down from opiates I always feel a lot more leveled out overall. For instance, the last time I got high I waited 24 hours between my dose. Even though I was essentially sober (or maybe even in mild withdrawals) at this point, I had absolutely no energy. I tried to pick up my guitar and I just felt too lazy to get into it. Everything is a struggle.

I killed the withdrawals late last night (24 hour mark) with a small dose of ppt and today I am in slight withdrawals but overall MUCH more functional than I was yesterday. And as time goes on and I keep on stepping down it's like I come out of this coma and start to feel things again and have the desire and motivation to get up and go from point A to point B. With cold turkey withdrawal there is just this soul-fucking despair and inability to do anything and/or see a light at the end of the tunnel. I really think that tapering is the way to go with pods. tonight I'll brew up another small batch of tea and then I'll be at 48 hours without getting high. Every little bit counts

 

[clb4]

is there any good h is the city anymore

 

[theotherside]

I must say that whenever I start to taper down from opiates I always feel a lot more leveled out overall. For instance, the last time I got high I waited 24 hours between my dose. Even though I was essentially sober (or maybe even in mild withdrawals) at this point, I had absolutely no energy. I tried to pick up my guitar and I just felt too lazy to get into it. Everything is a struggle.

I killed the withdrawals late last night (24 hour mark) with a small dose of ppt and today I am in slight withdrawals but overall MUCH more functional than I was yesterday. And as time goes on and I keep on stepping down it's like I come out of this coma and start to feel things again and have the desire and motivation to get up and go from point A to point B. With cold turkey withdrawal there is just this soul-fucking despair and inability to do anything and/or see a light at the end of the tunnel. I really think that tapering is the way to go with pods. tonight I'll brew up another small batch of tea and then I'll be at 48 hours without getting high. Every little bit counts

I am with you on the not being able to play guitar while not on opiates lol!! I started abusing them becuase I became a BEAST on the guitar/bass while on them...now I can't play for shit when not on them..go figure

 

[QuasiStoned]

^^^
I can't really play for shit whether I'm high or not anymore. I'm just too tired and/or lazy when high to do anything creative or even play something I already know. It used to really help to get me in the zone though, especially with that warm fuzzy feeling increasing my stamina and motivation. Of course, the warm fuzzies are pretty much non-existant at this point. The entire high is pretty much a far cry from what it once was.

I had my first productive jam on the guitar today in at least a week so I'll take that as a good sign!