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The Big & Dandy DMT Thread - The Fifth Symphony

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hey guys!

i still have a bunch of petroleum (I think its 'kerosene' in english) and need to evaporate it. I already "hair-dryed" it for ~2h with disappointingly little effect...

does anyone have an idea to get the spice out?!


next time I'm gonna use another solvent... :(
 
Anyone watch "Outlaw Amazon" on TV?

What did you think about the ayahuasca/datura/chacruna experience the host had?

What happened with the ayahuasca he first took with the villagers? not enough DMT? no Maoi? too dilute in general?
 
Your opinion? Or advice for how else to desaturate the crystals? The loss one would get from an ethanol wash taxes one's mind... Although I'd rather just believe naphtha evaporates correctly regardless of saturation, and this is all just someone's intoxicated hypothesis.

Naphtha evaporates cleanly, and its pretty volatile stuff so it doesn't take too long for that to happen. If you want to be extra-sure, you can try to locate an inexpensive Buchner funnel and aspirator system-- the suction generated should dry your crystals out pretty darn quick.
 
hey guys!

i still have a bunch of petroleum (I think its 'kerosene' in english) and need to evaporate it. I already "hair-dryed" it for ~2h with disappointingly little effect...

does anyone have an idea to get the spice out?!


next time I'm gonna use another solvent... :(

Is kerosene even a volatile compound?
 
^Yes its as volatile as gasoline.

that's what I thought too. but as I said: 'hairdrying' for hours removed nearly nothing...
damn. is there any other possibility to get the stuff out? I do not want to sit another 3 hours at the window blowing hot air (and some crap too) into a pot filled with toxic solvent...

if it wasn't so damn cold outside....


btw: can't you just use gas from the gasstation? or what about acetone? (petroleum/kerosene and acetone are the available solvents at hardwarestores where I live)

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well, my first extraction-attempt makes me feel like an idiot. :|
 
^Don't get discouraged, it usually takes a couple times before you get the hang of it. :) In your next extraction, I would recommend using naphtha as its easy to work with.

Try leaving the kerosene outside in a hot-water bath, perhaps with a fan blowing over it gently, and see how it progresses.
 
JK - a good source of solvent is camping fuel. I've used Primus Powerfuel with great results. People have also used Coleman, but make sure it doesn't have dye or additives.

BTW, I was smoking low doses of DMT today, just enough to get some patterning, and spaced about 1,5-2hrs apart. The third time I didn't get any sort of rush anymore. The fourth time I took two nice hits, still blowing smoke out after holding it in for 13 seconds, and I got little effect whatsoever.

Weird, in most of what I've read so far, acute tolerance was downplayed, even for breakthrough doses. Looks like I'm gonna have to wait until tomorrow morning. Bummer.
 
The rate at which tolerance develops for DMT seems to vary from person to person. I have heard some people say that they get almost no tolerance and can smoke DMT somewhat continuously. I seem to have to wait a while between doses.
 
On sunday I smoked 30 mg and had an excellent excellent experience!! <3

I wrote this up about the entities I encountered, maybe it will turn out a full trip report later on... :D :

Beings of pure existing information. Form, pattern, material of a universal, infinite scale.
Questions about the true nature or themselves and the role they play as the operator are answered with absurdities because in their reflection the questions in itself are absurd. The interpretation of consciousness is an automatic process, that what is at the control panel of the world, the world of information and concepts, and structures of the emergence of life. Creativity and imagination are the operation of an information system in the virtual matrix. One of the said entities in response to the event of our meeting or confrontation communicated to me: "Go like this:" BWEEEH! [see drawing]

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They have a really strong sense of bizarre cosmic humor, are sincere and truly unlimited, they are free, in are completely different dimension. Not somewhere to the left and 3 meter farther but in a totally different field, guards at the border of hyperspace, the tachyonic matrix of fundamental reality.

To clarify, the being did not look like the drawing the entire time. Apart from morphing, transforming it was basically less jagged up until the moment it demonstrated how to go BWEEH when the mouth stretched and it momentarily just freaked the hell out.
 
im trying ayahuasca on saturday.. cant really smoke DMT properly cos of my asthma so got everything I need to cook up some spirit juice ^_^
 
im trying ayahuasca on saturday.. cant really smoke DMT properly cos of my asthma so got everything I need to cook up some spirit juice ^_^

I'll quote what I wrote after my New Year's Ayahuasca session, just so you know you have nothing to fear and will be in the very best entheogenic hands choosing this path:

How is it even possible to stuff so much meaning into 4 days?

I've been on Moclobemide + DMT (have grams and grams of the stuff in my stock) every single waking minute of the past 4 days just to see what it could be like.

So many unique places traveled, without ever leaving my futon. Meditation, introspection, sensory deprivation, old cartoons, hour after hour of musical favorites, moments of unbelievable visuals coming and going, a solid grateful 10 hours of sleep between each day.

These have been the greatest 4 days of my entire life.

I welcome 2010 with a fresh and intensely curious mind.

:)

If I could survive 4 days in such a comfortable state without a single moment of fuss emotional or physical, I'm willing to believe anyone who has nothing to hide from themselves can do fine on Ayahuasca.

I wanted to discern for myself whether or not DMT could really be a sustainable headspace, and it was! Though whenever visuals came on the 3rd/4th days, they were somewhat ethereal, ghostly you might say, harder to get a good look at.

I've heard of similar results from people who've taken 2C-P (almost as visual as DMT, from what I hear) for multiple days straight and noticing visuals gradually get weaker and weaker. In the case of DMT, for me, as visuals got weaker, the introspective element of the experience absolutely skyrocketed beyond my wildest expectations.

By the 4th day I felt as if I'd gone over every aspect of the person I've become today, and knew everything about what I could do from that point on to live as the person I'd always wanted to become. It was empowering, to say the least.

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Since then I've taken up karate which I'd left behind back in middle school, and have found a mysterious reserve of energy to stick with it and better myself as I'd always meant to. I'd been having heart issues lately (130 pound 26yo male, heart issues stemmed from lung surgery complications I had about 5 years ago), and for months kept avoiding physical exertion since it usually brought with it the fear of cardiovascular pangs.

But after my last Ayahuasca session, I faced those feelings of mortal fear head on, began exercising regularly once more in my life, slowly at first then more and more every day, and have never felt healthier than I am now. I've never gone this many days in a row without a heart flutter or feeling of tightness in my chest.

I only wish there were something I could give back to this brilliant plant and compound.

May it continue helping others as much as it's helped me.
 
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awesome cheers lunar.. ive been a bit aprehensive about the length of the trip but im getting pretty excited now :D
 
I've been on Moclobemide + DMT (have grams and grams of the stuff in my stock) every single waking minute of the past 4 days just to see what it could be like.

What doses of moclobemide and DMT did you use to achieve such a long sustained period of use?
 
What doses of Moclobemide and DMT did you use to achieve such a long sustained period of use?

I would take less when I felt less fit the mood better, or more if my psyche gave the thumbs up that doing so would be OK. Wouldn't recommend doing it any other way.

So doses never stayed the same.

The Moclobemide was 150mg at the start of the day, and another 150mg at midday.

The DMT (as the white, powdery freebase, smelling of pollen or mothballs, everyone seems to have their own ideas what this magical stuff resembles) was measured on a 0.001 scale and "low" doses would be 30mg (about 1/5 to 1/4 volume of a OO capsule).

The highest I would go was 90mg (about 1/2 volume of a OO capsule).

Re-dosing was typically done every 2-5 hours, again entirely dependent on gauging personal comfort level at the moment.

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I believe careful measurements and a good understanding of one's psychological comfort level at the moment are key to a very positive, prolonged Pharmahuasca session.

Occasionally I'd smoke it too (kept smoked doses low on the Erowid scale), typically whenever I felt interested in getting some visuals to join in on the fun ;)

Smoked DMT I've found makes it into you easiest from one of those pocket-sized Aquapipes (see: Google). Just make a tiny nest from steel mesh you can buy at any hardware store, and the DMT passes through that tiny water reserve before it gets into your lungs, cooling it a little (but still above boiling point) so it's not quite so painful to inhale.

Visuals, at least for me, don't seem willing to show up unless goaded into making an appearance via the smoking route.

While already on Pharmahuasca, it understandably takes far less smoked DMT than usual to begin seeing closed-eye visuals.

Hope that's everything you wanted to know!

Even on the 4th day doses remained essentially the same (no increases were necessary, much less were they desired).

And the afterglow is still here, some weeks later. So thankful this stuff exists <3
 
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