Bye Bye Mephedrone

I don't plan to lose any sleep over it. Most of my sleep is lost already.
 
Sparky1986 said:
Does anyone really think the UK government will be able to ban this quickly?

BZP has been watched for over a year now and I haven't heard of any action taken to illegalise it.
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huh, I thought it was made illegal a a year or two ago? It disappeared off all the online headshops that I used operating out of UK at least.
 
Im Hearing that GBL, Spice Gold, BZP and other forms of Piperazine, MCPP & TFMPP etc... are now banned
 
it will atke time and more damage to occur plus the tax revenue from it must be astronomical given the ridiculous profits being made by english vendors
 
g1zzl3 said:
Im Hearing that GBL, Spice Gold, BZP and other forms of Piperazine, MCPP & TFMPP etc... are now banned
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As of December 23rd 2009 GBL has been a class C substance in the UK which is where most of it was produced and sold.
 
its all your own fault for being so out about it. practically waving it in the coppers faces going "its legal haha"







twas inevitable
 
Its a shame that this is such a shitty situation...

I mean, mephedrone is dangerous crap, but few people would even know what mephedrone is if they had access to decent MDMA.

FFS, all the people want to do is feel empathic and dance to good music for a little while. Its a goddamn shame that they have to resort to using toxic garbage like mephedrone to achieve that...:(

Its really a bad situation when MDMA is nonexistent, and a toxic compound like mephedrone is available at the corner store...literally a picture-perfect situation to cultivate an environment of rampart mephedrone misuse. Keeping in mind, that mephedrone being such a new compound, we don't even have a clear picture of its long term effects.

Its just a really bad situation. Fueled mostly by the lack of availability of MDMA, rather than the availability of mephedrone.
 
i live in cornwall and have a daughter who is mentally and physically ill from this shit! In our town everyone in the local pubs and clubs are doing it , 16 years and up probably younger in the parks and stuff. This stuff is damaging to the body and has the same effect as speed on the appetite , i know her and lots of others who have lost 2 or 3 stone taking it every weekend or more. Her mental staus is in debate too. A few years ago her mate used to come to our bbq's a healthy looking chap, saw him the other day and he is ill and skeletal. The difference between this and other drugs is its so cheap and they can buy it on the internet and around here you can get for a tenner a gramm. most of the people i know do around 10 of these a night. I personally have tried it to see how bad it was, as has my hubby and i always feel like shit after. If you have never suffered any kind of mental problems you may escape the come down but beware any of you that have. My daughter and other teenagers would not be able to afford to go buy cocaine and nobody likes amphet anymore, I say it should be banned for other reasons too, i have friends who never took drugs ever before but because this is legal they now use it whenever they can effectively turning non drug users into users, who may then try other shit. BAN IT. So the youngsters round here can get their lifes back. That is the difference the price and the availabilty.
 
tamjam said:
i live in cornwall and have a daughter who is mentally and physically ill from this shit! In our town everyone in the local pubs and clubs are doing it , 16 years and up probably younger in the parks and stuff. This stuff is damaging to the body and has the same effect as speed on the appetite , i know her and lots of others who have lost 2 or 3 stone taking it every weekend or more. Her mental staus is in debate too. A few years ago her mate used to come to our bbq's a healthy looking chap, saw him the other day and he is ill and skeletal. The difference between this and other drugs is its so cheap and they can buy it on the internet and around here you can get for a tenner a gramm. most of the people i know do around 10 of these a night. I personally have tried it to see how bad it was, as has my hubby and i always feel like shit after. If you have never suffered any kind of mental problems you may escape the come down but beware any of you that have. My daughter and other teenagers would not be able to afford to go buy cocaine and nobody likes amphet anymore, I say it should be banned for other reasons too, i have friends who never took drugs ever before but because this is legal they now use it whenever they can effectively turning non drug users into users, who may then try other shit. BAN IT. So the youngsters round here can get their lifes back. That is the difference the price and the availabilty.
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10 grams a night? what the hell lol?

You need to get off the meph lady and be a proper parent! Doing anything near 10 grams is obviously the user's problem and not the drugs. I mean what do you expect. Anything over 5 grams is suicidal and quite frankly if i did over 5 grams i would expect dreadfull consrquences, such as death. stick to a gram or 2 at the most and its happy days really. Obviously meph is moreish but then so are alot of other things, but that doesnt mean you have to do them relentlessly. People from cornwall are a strange lot.:!
 
^^^ I think the person/ lady above your post isnt saying that she does, or even has done, 5 grams over a night, but rather that she has merely sampled mephedrone to increase her awareness of what the drug is and how it affects people.
 
slackhands said:
You need to get off the meph lady and be a proper parent!
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Yes, you seem to have completely misunderstood what she's saying.
Her daughter's having a bit of a problem with it.
She (the mother) has tried it to see what it's like, to get a clear picture of what's going on (which I think is quite commendable as she's not just saying "BAN IT!" without having knowledge).

Me thinks you should read a little slower and more carefully ;)
 
I've used and abused mephedrone and nothing too bad happened. I did 5+ grams in about 30 hours. I felt tired and more depressed than usual for a couple of days afterwards and there was a pulsating transparent blob in the center of my visual field for maybe 4 or 5 days. That kind of scared me, but it went away. I never felt I was in any physical or mental danger while on it. It is hard for me to control my usage of it, constantly wanting to do just a little more. I would have been able to stop myself if using more would get in the way of obligations or college, but it was a 3 day weekend so I didn't have to stop. It was a lot of fun.

I don't think any chemical should be banned. I should have the right to put any chemical I want into my body. I should be able to snort a line of cyanide if that is what I wanted to do.

All drugs should be legal. I know some of them have very harmful effects. Just sell the drug with a pamphlet describing the positive and negative effects, side effects, the addiction potential, death statistics, and some pharmacological information. Then the user will be fully aware of the possible consequences and able to make up their own minds about what to do with their minds and bodies.

Lets not forget that alcohol is known to cause brain damage with long term heavy use and can cause severe liver damage much faster, I have heard of people in their 20s needing liver transplants from alcohol induced damage. Also, compared to most other drugs, alcohol users are belligerent and violent, committing assaults, property crime, and thousands of murders every year as well as tens of thousands of fatal vehicular accidents annually.

You rarely hear of anyone on weed, mdma(or similar substances), opiates, or psychedelics committing murders or serious assaults or killing with their vehicle, perhaps because they are more aware of their inebriation and are less likely to drive.

There are about 50,000 people dying from alcohol use every year in the USA, exceeded only by the 250,000 or so who die from tobacco use. No other drugs come close. Some illegal drugs kill no one at all, like weed and LSD. This disparity in numbers of deaths can partly be accounted for by the fact that illegal drugs are used by fewer people. I have done the math, and that is not enough to account for the difference. A majority of deaths listed as opiate related also include alcohol. Opiates as a whole were less likely to kill than alcohol even including alcohol and other opiate combos. I believe only heroin was more likely to kill the user than alcohol. This included incidents of fentanyl being passed as heroin and causing overdoses.

Two out of the three most dangerous drugs are the two legal drugs, alcohol and tobacco.
The #2 most likely to cause death, heroin, would be probably at least an order of magnitude safer if it was legal because users would always have the strength listed on the bottle and they'd never be given fentanyl or anything else instead. It could be sold in vials with the amount of heroin per ml listed, so that it would be much harder to overdose. The seller would be required to remind the buyer about accidental overdoses after a period of abstinence if they were to use their old dose.

Having heroin sold at a known purity in solution with no possibility of it being another drug would probably cut the number of non-suicide deaths by 90% or more. Naloxone could also be sold and users should be encouraged to shoot up when someone else is near in the unlikely event of an overdose requiring the naloxone which is readily available.

I don't believe any drug should be illegal. I might make exceptions for those that are significantly neurotoxic with normal usage and maybe for those that are extremely toxic to other vital organs. Cocaine is toxic to the heart but not nearly to the level that I am talking about. I mean something where a few months or less of use(unless very heavy use) results in major organ damage. If it took very heavy use for at least a month to cause the damage then I would not ban it, unless it was shown that just occasional use over a longer period of time produces the same kind of damage. Paracetamol is very safe when used at normal doses, but swallowing the whole bottle will kill your liver, and taking 2 or 3 times the maximum recommended dose for a long time might seriously damage the liver. Drugs that have a safety profile like Paracetamol would be legal even though misuse could have dire consequences.

I think that what I wrote would be a good way to do things. It would screen out drugs that are truly very dangerous and leave all others legal, it would provide users with information about any drug they want to use, and it would ensure an exact purity (reducing OD chances). People would be able to come out in the open about their drug use. They would no longer have to hide it. They may decide to dose in the presence of others, further reducing the chance of fatal overdoses. They would no longer feel ashamed any more than an alcohol user(I feel no shame, but I know some do)

It would take hundreds of thousands out of prison, saving lots of money and making for a freer society, It costs about $30,000 per year to keep a person in prison. It would bring in billions in taxes. It would save many more billions in wasted money fighting the drug war.

The violence in Mexico is directly caused by drug prohibition. If drugs were legalized and grown/synthesized by corporations the violent cartels would be put out of business quickly. Thousands of lives lost for nothing just south of my state. It would not be happening without prohibition,
 
slackhands said:
You need to get off the meph lady and be a proper parent!
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You need to learn to read properly and not sit around by yourself plowing through grams of mephedrone and moaning about it

He who casts the first stone yada yada 8)

/cock.
 
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