Methylone Megathread

[thisisharsh]

Yeah SWIM's first time trying methylone. SWIM hammered mdma faar too much when he was younger, so is stuck with permanent tolerance (tried several year breaks from mdma, but tolerance persists, dammit).

Was pretty impressed with first approx 150-200mg dose, was quite a chilled high, reminded me of the good 'ole mdma days, but at a low dose. From then on, same as basically everything people say on this thread about top-up doses being a bit weird, but hard to resist.

Prescribed SSRIs though, so don't think it's hit me like it would under normal circumstances. Wonder if SWIM stopped taking the SSRIs from now til new year, that would be enough to get a 'proper' effect from methylone for the new years eve bash?

 

[Evad]

we don't SWIM round here man
welcome to bluelight, SWIM offers nothing in the way of avoiding self incrimination anywhere

 

[thisisharsh]

we don't SWIM round here man
welcome to bluelight, SWIM offers nothing in the way of avoiding self incrimination anywhere

Ah awesome, I hate SWIM, but some forums have it as a rule (unofficial or otherwise).

So yeah, to reiterate: I'm fucked on methylone, sort of (in that I should be more fucked for the dosage taken).

I did read that the dosage is typically higher than for mdma, but a gramme of mdma, although a lot, isn't really over the top. So how can a gramme of methylone be over the top?

 

[koneko]

Is it worth stopping your SSRI's to just get fucked for one night? When they need long term use and come-off? Your choice mate, but personally my longer term mental health is more important to me.

Ah awesome, I hate SWIM, but some forums have it as a rule (unofficial or otherwise).

So yeah, to reiterate: I'm fucked on methylone, sort of (in that I should be more fucked for the dosage taken).

I did read that the dosage is typically higher than for mdma, but a gramme of mdma, although a lot, isn't really over the top. So how can a gramme of methylone be over the top?

Methylone is not MDMA and can't be compared with it dosage or any ways It's not the best replacement for it either babes, much more of a stimulating wiry empathogenic drug.

Be careful with RC's Have some fun, but take it easy and look after yourself.

 

[etage]

Stargate is a New Zealand-Based Legal High Company. They tried to sell Methylone as a legal party pill under the brand name "Ease" and started a trial, but the government stopped them and declared Methylone illegal, so I think there aren't any real results.

But Stargate isn't the inventor of Methylone. It's been sold under the brand name "Explosion" in dutch smart shops before from 2004 until 2006, when the dutch government declared it illegal to sell.

Methylone was inveted by Shulgin and he's got a patent on it, issued in 1996.

1 gram in five hours is way too much. Did 1 gram in ten hours a few times and would say that's still too much.

 

[thisisharsh]

Is it worth stopping your SSRI's to just get fucked for one night? When they need long term use and come-off? Your choice mate, but personally my longer term mental health is more important to me.

Yeah, absolutely worth it, mental health is overrated.

Methylone is not MDMA and can't be compared with it dosage or any ways It's not the best replacement for it either babes, much more of a stimulating wiry empathogenic drug.

Well, mdma is the best basis for reference that I have, and indeed it is reminiscent. At least more so than any other drug I've tried.

But the main point I think I was trying to make, is that there is some conflicting info on just what is considered a stupidly-high dose...?

Be careful with RC's Have some fun, but take it easy and look after yourself.

Always do, peace.

EDIT: @etage - good info, thanks. Still wonder if they have any published findings from their "clinical trial", though.


SO, what negative effects can I expect from being dumb and hammering 1g in 6 hours???

Anyone?

 

[koneko]

But the main point I think I was trying to make, is that there is some conflicting info on just what is considered a stupidly-high dose...?

Just mine and other posters personal experience.

Peace to you too

 

[etage]

SO, what negative effects can I expect from being dumb and hammering 1g in 6 hours???

Anyone?

One time, I did a high dose in quite a short time: Because of a mistake, I took 400 mgs in a capsule and another 400 about 3 or 4 hours later.

I experienced a weird body feeling, very heavy, I was not able to stand up, totally different from the usual feeling of my body being very light on Methylone. Additionally, my muscles were shaking uncontrollably at times (especially on the legs). It was outside and quite dark and I had some really weird hallucinations, like all the people around me having beards (also women) and their faces looking weird at times. Also I was seeing the whole grass around me full of cocktail glasses, lighters all around me when I was looking for one, but they disappeared, once I tried to pick them up. Very hard to sleep, speeded for many hours, next day feeling very exhausted. Also my legs muscles were hurting from shaking so much. Others who took the same capsules reported similar events.

I wouldn't recommend.

 

[thisisharsh]

One time, I did a high dose in quite a short time: Because of a mistake, I took 400 mgs in a capsule and another 400 about 3 or 4 hours later.

I experienced a weird body feeling, very heavy, I was not able to stand up, totally different from the usual feeling of my body being very light on Methylone. Additionally, my muscles were shaking uncontrollably at times (especially on the legs). It was outside and quite dark and I had some really weird hallucinations, like all the people around me having beards (also women) and their faces looking weird at times. Also I was seeing the whole grass around me full of cocktail glasses, lighters all around me when I was looking for one, but they disappeared, once I tried to pick them up. Very hard to sleep, speeded for many hours, next day feeling very exhausted. Also my legs muscles were hurting from shaking so much. Others who took the same capsules reported similar events.

I wouldn't recommend.

Ah cool, cheers for that, put my mind at ease. From the suggestiveness of the posts I read I was worried I might be headed into heart attack or brain anurism territory!

Actually not feeling anywhere near what you describe, just like I've eaten a fair amount of classic speed. So its all good.

 

[etage]

Ah cool, cheers for that, put my mind at ease. From the suggestiveness of the posts I read I was worried I might be headed into heart attack or brain anurism territory!

Actually not feeling anywhere near what you describe, just like I've eaten a fair amount of classic speed. So its all good.

I must admit that I already had one of the capsules the night before with no such ill effects. But because of that, at least I was sleep deprivated.

But I tend to get visuals most of the time at the tail end of large doses of methylone, e. g. after a night with 3 or 4 250 mg capsules, especially when I start smoking cannabis.

 

[Scire]

I got 5g of methylone in the post today. Is it snorted like meph or bombed?

Now... I'm gonna start at the beginning of this thread and probably find my answer.

 

[thisisharsh]

I got 5g of methylone in the post today. Is it snorted like meph or bombed?

Now... I'm gonna start at the beginning of this thread and probably find my answer.

Wow, same here, got 5g today.

Tried snorting 0.1g, is horrible and pointless IMO. Though nose is fucked from a ritalin snorting binge, so not really a fair test.

I recommend just bomb it. And try to resist chasing that methylone dragon.

 

[koneko]

I got 5g of methylone in the post today. Is it snorted like meph or bombed?

Now... I'm gonna start at the beginning of this thread and probably find my answer.

Bombs all the way snorting a total waste.

Good on you reading the thread, lots of good information from user's experiences.

 

[Scire]

There's a methylone dragon too? I was hoping it wouldn't be as compulsive as meph, but on the bright side it's not known to cause severe vasoconstriction.

Going to bomb some now, emptied a supplement gel cap to fill. FYI trying to drink the supplement contents from a glass of water was one of the most disgusting things i've ever tasted. Had to chuck it.

 

[koneko]

There's a methylone dragon too? I was hoping it wouldn't be as compulsive as meph, but on the bright side it's not known to cause severe vasoconstriction.

Going to bomb some now, emptied a supplement gel cap to fill. FYI trying to drink the supplement contents from a glass of water was one of the most disgusting things i've ever tasted. Had to chuck it.

I'd not even contemplate chasing M1 call me old skool :D

Hold your nose as you swallow, it hits quicker mixed into a soft drink. But maybe us ladies are just used to swallowing unsavoury fluids eh

 

[Scire]

Sorry Kate, you misunderstood

I have health supplements in gel caps, and i splint one open so I could fill it with M1. Not wanting to waste the supplement I poured it into a glass of water, it was extremely bitter. Nearly gagged on the stuff.

Filling my M1 cap now.

 

[koneko]

Apologies Scire, I did indeed... but I'd also mix the M1 into water / fruit juice on an empty tummy just because it DOES hit ya harder ...mmm nice.

Have a great night and give us a virtual hug when you're "there" eh

 

[vecktor]

Hey all, long time lurker, first time posting.

I got a couple questions. Just been reading that the origin of methylone was with a company called Stargate International, who claimed it was a "clinical trial", trying to find a safer alternative to mdma. Thing is, I can't find any published findings of this "clinical trial". OK, I know it was just an excuse to make some cash, but it sounds like they did it above board and everything and should have *something* to say about the dangers, etc of methylone? Anyone know where that info might be?

Second question. Is 1g over 5 hours a daft thing to do? What, theoretically, would the likely repurcussions be?

Like most things out there about Stargate it is not the truth they didn't discover BZP or were the first to commercialize it either though they were perhaps the first to rip the arse out of BZP as a legal high, which they got fat and rich on until the ketone legal highs appeared out of Israel. A cynic might suggest nothing they have done is truly above board. Stargate are the masters of spin over substance.

Methylone was made by Shulgin in 1996-7, and almost simultaneously in europe. when shulgins' lab was raided the notes fell into the hands of the DEA where a certain piece of shit, published the synthesis before Shulgin could. The material was quite widely available in 1999, and was the active ingredient in explosion sold in Dutch smart shops a year or so later. It was also listed by several pre-webtrip vendors.

The background to Stargate and methylone is that they bought a huge amount with a view to selling it as a legal high but it got impounded by customs because it is clearly covered by the NZ and Australian analogue acts. It seems unlikely they would have run a clinical trial when they never ran clinical trials for anything else they have peddled. Ask them directly for the info on the trial, whilst you are at it ask them what is in Aroma smoking blend.

 

[Scire]

Cheers

 

[thisisharsh]

Whats the minimum I should leave the methylone in order to get somewhere near the same euphoric effects? 12/18/24/36/48 hours? or (god forbid) even longer?