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Methylone Megathread

Treacle said:
^Are you for real? A 45 minute peak, being wired for hours after, and a fucking roasting comedown, compared to a lovely 3-4 hour peak and a gentle landing to earth and bed. Methylone isn't even comparable to MDMA. Yes, the peak is good, shame it's over before you know it. I feel like you are blaspheming, if I believed in some magical MDMA God. :(
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it seems to vary a lot from person to person.

for me it is a 2h peak, 1h of nice stimulation with some hints of empathogen effects and 1-1.5h hours of coming down comparable to an amphetamine comedown. that's with a single 200mg dose.
 
Black said:
I must disagree with the people saying that methylone is not an mdma replacement. ime the high is comparable to the first (5 or so) times of taking mdma (hooray!), but with a clearer head (positive), a shorter duration (negative) and mdma-like comedown (negative; especially as i don't get any unpleasant comedown with mdma at all).

nowadays i'd rather take methylone than mdma.
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I'd concur with that - except I'd happily take either :)
 
the last time i took methylone, it was just as good as any MDMA i've had before. possibly even better, cos MDMA can sometimes give you a mongy feeling with no energy.

and i've finally seemed to figure out my massive jaw clenching problem too. 1200mg (i.e. 4 tablets) of magnesium taken at the same time minimises the effects massively.

so i am well back on the m1 bandwagon, wey hey! :D
 
well, i was always suspecting it was a placebo, but on that last occasion it really fucking worked.

it may well be that there is something different about the m1 we got. unfortunately my GC/MS and time machines are down for maintenance so i guess we'll never know. :(
 
^ Recently i've taken mdma a couple of times - and man judging your mindset is of crucial importance IMO - also the magic does come back but once tapped goes into hibernation for a lengthy period again. Don't understand the m1 haters at all.
 
I've found magnesium helps out my jaw when on MDMA/M1 (well the one occasion I tried M1).

I'm pretty bad for gurning but it'll reduce how much of a freak I look like.
 
Magnesium works a treat I find. Usually take between 500 and 750mg before going out, usually on mephedrone these days though, which for the 1st time taking mephedrone I was gurning hard, don't like it at all, so started taking magnesium and never gurned since =D

Was thinking about trying methylone at some point, for some reason never dabbled in it yet, but according to this thread it sounds pretty decent, think i'll end up doing a 2:1 or 3:1 meph/methy combo, see how that works out, sounds nice!! need to experiment with it and see what the effects are like though :)

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I don't understand how magnesium helps. Does that mean gurning is a sign of nutritional deficiency? Why can't your body leech enough magnesium from bones to prevent gurning?
 
Magnesium works. Dunno why but doesn't it have a minor muscle relaxant effect? May be mistaken. I didn't think it would make a difference but was amazed at the difference. Really does help. M1 is still shit though :\

Each to their own, of course :)
 
Black said:
because your bones consist of hydroxylapatite (Ca5(PO4)3(OH)). no magnesium there ;)
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In total the bones of your skeleton should contain about 15 grams of elemental magnesium.

From http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals/magnesium/

The adult human body contains about 25 grams of magnesium. Over 60% of all the magnesium in the body is found in the skeleton, about 27% is found in muscle, 6% to 7% is found in other cells, and less than 1% is found outside of cells (1).
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1. Shils ME. Magnesium. In: O'Dell BL, Sunde RA, eds. Handbook of nutritionally essential minerals. New York: Marcel Dekker, Inc; 1997:117-152.
 
I was wondering if anyone had any experience/knowledge of mixing 2C-B and methylone? Perhaps a similar 2C like 2C-I or 2C-C? I've not read a full trip report but seen a few people mention in passing in PD. Was wondering on timings and stuff like that.

I'd generally stay away from mixing stims and psychs but I don't really find methylone that stimulating and can sleep real easy after. Basically I find it the same as MDMA with less depth, less empathy and a bit of a shorter duration.

Oh and Treacle, I can most def relate to enjoying gurning mate. Would prefer a proper MD jaw swing going on though than the weird lip licking thing people get from the empathogenic cathinones.

Edit: Oh and will probably be doing ket too. Can't imagine it not mixing well; can't really think of anything it doesn't mix well with! Maybe benzos... did half a gram to k-hole last night after 15mg of diaz, was excited for the ket to hit, lay down... next thing I know it's the morning :( Got a bit of exp mixing ket and M1 though if anyone wants some info, I'd be happy to help.
 
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2C-I and 2C-C are really nothing much like 2C-B so not the best for comparison really, I'd say. Don't find M1 mixes well with much other than meph myself. Would depend how M1 effects you, I would think. If you're in the "feel great for almost an hour (if your lucky) then just wired for hours" M1 camp then probably a shitty combo. If your in the other camp where the enjoyable stage of M1 lasts for more than a nanosecond then it could well be pretty fun. Depends where your tent is pitched betwixt the camps, I'd imagine :)
 
Oh right, fair enough... I know that those two do have quite a few differences but thought they were just more comparable than likes of the deeper 2C-E, 2C-P etc. So I can look for trip reports in combo with M1; what would you say is closest to 2C-B? (other than 2cb-fly cos there's none with that combo either.)

I love methylone. Nothing near as much as I love MDMA or MDA. I understand if you find it hard to relate as I read your experiences with the stuff and they sounded horrible mate! I find a couple of oral doses of methylone of like 300mg then 200mg, 90 mins apart to be three and a half hours of euphoria with a gentle yet rapid comedown then sleep after 4/5 hours of my first dose.

I'm sure I would love the combo but was just wondering on change in dosages, timing etc. Cheers for your help man :D
 
I'd say 2C-I was probably the closest to 2C-B. Much speedier and lasts longer though. Just a personal bugbear of mine that folks (not meaning you - just in general) assume anything with a 2C-prefix is probably similar to anything else with a 2C-prefix - don't mind me, I'm getting crotchety in my old age ;)
 
No worries man, it was due to the wording on my behalf. I made it seem like those 2Cs had the same effects profile across the board; in terms of duration, stimulation etc but I meant specifically in terms of the depth of the psychedelic headspace that you get from them.

What I really meant is: how have people found methylone to combine with psychedelic drugs that aren't seen as deep or "difficult" as something like shrooms? Like people might use 2C-B or 2C-I at parties, whereas 2C-E is a more introspective drug that you would want to do in a more predictable environment.

Hope that's a bit clearer and it'd be great if anyone that had tried a combo like this could say how it went. Cheers.
 
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