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MDMA - New Experience - VERY VERY strange

Nukey_Brown

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Greetings fellow spacemen. I come from Northern England and speak for an unknown person named TopCat, who's true identity is unknown even to me! TopCat will on a fairly regular basis report to me on his adventures into the psyche and sub-conscious, and these reports will come in the format of a first hand account, though may I stress these are not mine and I would not indulge in any illegal activities, especially not ones such as taking LSD which guarantees insanity and a smashed apartment window with a canny drop to the ground floor. TopCat decided to take the MDMA on his own first off before advising his usual trip companions to buy from the same source. All 12 trip companions (including TopCat) have since used this same batch and had nothing other than typical MDMA experiences of love and empathy and euphoria and dilated pupils.

Anyway let's cut to the heart of this thing - TopCat's first experience on MDMA.

This is what he said:


It begins at around 00:50am, an unknown quantity within the range of 100-300mg of pure MDMA crystal is placed into a Rizla rolling paper, tightened up and swallowed. Yum. May I note that I got the figure for the amount of MDMA because the bag had a gram in and this was roughly 1/10 to 3/10 of the bag's contents. First effects come on within 20-25 minutes, as I sit in front of my PC noticing my increased willingness to chat nonsense with people online and also I seem to be enjoying the bassline of the Dirty Electro music more than I usually do.

From this point, I recorded a short journal as I was experiencing the effects of the drug. I will fill in the gaps following the report:


01:14am :: Want to dance to music with a good bassline more than usual, and I actually do =P
01:18am :: No pupil-dilation as of yet
01:21am :: OMG THIS IS QUICK, WHOAHHH
01:30am :: Ok... since when did MDMA make everything warp, lines moving, walls breathing, is this even the Drug ithought i got ?! Seeing extremely mild patterns in the white on notepad too now, im going to have to ride this psychedelic drug out somehow, im rather scared though as its completely unknown.
01:43am :: INSTANTLY from feeling like OMG Im gonna vomit, this is too much, I FELT SOOOOOOOO GOOOD AND START DANCING TO NOTHING GRINNING MY HEAD OFF OVER THE TOILET I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO VOMIT IN JUST MOMENTS BEFORE!
01:58am :: Cant stop worshiping my gf over msn and webcam, she looks SOOOOOO FIT and i cant stop telling her, it's gonna be gay as fuck unless i cool it down a bit
2:50 :: Take some more MDMA, about 1/15th of the full bag
3:06 :: second batch not kicking in yet, but got some vicks on my face and i swear down, on my life, i aint ever felt better than this.
3:33am :: Think I might be feeling the second dose coming on, not sure yet. Rather horny too may I say!!!
4:24am :: Start feeling this may be wearing off.
5:00am :: I write this the next day, and can attest to witnessing many many visual hallucinations and experiencing audiotary madness too, people whispering in my ear, conversations with friends and family who weren't really there etc during the comedown, during which a copious amount of Cannabis was also smoked
So that was that. Holy shit.

Essentially the aspect of the experience that interested me the most was the psychedelic experiences which I did not expect at all after reading numerous websites on MDMA, including many reports on the Erowid Vaults etc. The psychedelic experiences which I would normally expect from drugs such as LSD were objects breathing, distortion in the lines around objects, objects moving on the edge of my field of vision (later moving straight the fuck in front of me after adding Cannabis to the mix), coloured geomatric patterns covering lightly coloured walls etc.

What disturbed me about my experience on the drug, was during the comedown (going down but not depressed by any stretch of the imagination) was seeing people walking around my house and talking to me, and doing various things in such a realistic manner that had they not been slightly see-through in the manner of a ghost, then I would NOT have been able to distinguish these people from reality. Perhaps I may have noticed the clock said 4am and asked why every member of my family was at my house at this time, and why my grandmother was crawling around the floor asking me if I want her to perform sexual acts on me (by far the most disturbing part of the experience which nearly put me on a bad MDMA trip - unbelievable I know). I literally spoke to imaginary friends in my kitchen, which was another strange experience as my two best friends were present like the family members, like holograms while also I was with friends who seemed to be alive through various appliances and objects in the kitchen, which were moving and as alive as me or my hologram friends. I thought I need to get the fuck away from this shit so I went back to my bedroom where I saw no more hologram people, though I did hear angry voices shouting from downstairs (my mother's voice mainly, the key feature in my only bad LSD trip about 8 months ago) for a while.

I have had an identical experience in the context of seeing holographic people which is when I mixed sleep deprivation, LSD, Speed and Cannabis together, though apart from the geomatric patterns, seeing people was the only aspect in common these experiences had.

I did some research following this experience and found that this experience of hallucinating people on MDMA is definately not limited to me, and the sparse trip reports I have found with this do seem to include MDMA + Cannabis, and the hallucinations beginning on the comedown. I have also heard (But not confirmed, if anybody can help me out?) that MDMA is processed down into MDA during the comedown and MDA almost certainly gives hallucinations and such, which are also far more pronounced when cannabis is added to the mix (much in the same way most psychedelics seem to intensify when cannabis is added).

So there you go, may I also note that this was definately pure MDMA crystal because I know the person who cut it from the crystal, and also a number of people who have used the same source and batch and had the usual MDMA experience even on a similar dosage to me so it isn't some kind of psychedelic that mimics MDMA effects at a low dose.

If anybody else can share a similar experience or explanation for why this type of experience occured before I attempt another adventure on the substance in the next few weeks I would be extremely grateful.

Cheers, TopCat.
So that's what TopCat asked me to tell these forums. He hopes you enjoyed his story, and especially hopes that if anybody finds themselves having a similar experience they may find it easier to cope with in the knowledge they are not alone
 
I hate to be a nay-sayer, but I have a hard time believing the authenticity of this 'trip report.'

I've never, EVER heard of or experienced such intense psychadelic phenomena whilst under the influence of MDMA.
 
I been there.. huge doses / crazy sensitivity to mdma / tiredness (or lack of sleep) / MDA.. or all of ther above
 
Shit, seriously?


I mean I've seen glimpses of people who weren't there, maybe seen a few things that weren't there (minor things) but like I said... never anything this intense.


Shit, I've taken multiple grams of mushies and 12 hits of LSD once and I didn't even experience anything that intense. lol.
 
I been there.. huge doses / crazy sensitivity to mdma / tiredness (or lack of sleep) / MDA.. or all of ther above

he eyeballed the dose, 1/10 to 3/10 that's 100-300mg starting dose. once you cross the 300mg range on MDMA shit gets crazy, toss in lack of sleep and it's even more nuts. believe me or don't believe me, but i've had more wild hallucinations on high dose MDMA than i have on MDA... time and time again so it's no fluke. go figure, but MDA doesn't do much for me in the visuals department.

i think the OP needs to get a scale and accurately weigh/dose himself next time. start with 100-150mg for your first time, no visuals at that range.
 
Before when I was watching my friends house while him and his parents were gone out of town, I had 3 orange omegas(test for mdx, so I suspect its mda), took 2 around 1am, didn't see much but was rolling hard. An hour later I took my last pill, I started seeing my friends cousin standing in the hallway,freaked me out at first I asked him what is he doing, he didn't say anything so I walked up to him and tried touching him then he dissapeared, then I while on the computer listining to music I seen my mom looking through the window again it freaked me out so walked up close then she vanished,I closed the curtain. Then around 430am I was talking to my other friend on the computer, then when I went to get more water I seen my same friend I was talking on the computer with standing by the kichen sink with his head in the sink, I was like WTF? I walked to fridge got my water and looked at the sink again, he was still standing there with his head in the sink??? It scared the shit out of me, I walked up to him and tried touching him then he dissapeared, haha I told my friend about it he laughed at me and told me I'm too fucked up lmao,
 
^ that sounds like a weird nightmare, i would of shat my pants
 
Never assume that what you have is MDMA only because someone said it was. Maybe they are inexperienced and they think its MDMA but it could be alot of other things.

I'll move your thread to trip reports cause here it would get closed. Mods over there advise as you see fit.
 
You can see people on large doses of MDMA if you are really tired and/or you smoke, but this sounds a little too much.

I mean even large doses of LSD won't really give you such vivid hallucinations.
 
why do people think that because they havent had said halucination on said drug that no-one else can? this is very primitive thinking-everyone is different and reacts differently- i remember halucinatiing a lot when i first started taking mdma- like seeing my after image loads like the supercombo's in street fighter alpha games. this was before i overdid it. and acid doesn't give me the most intense visuals more just a mindfuck of power
 
swim had similar experiences to nukey browns friend top cat. After researching further into the experience it was discovered that what had been taken was NOT pure mdma. Although it was solid white crystal and could very easily pass as mdma it was actually something that has yet to be identified. The smell and very bittter taste of mdma was not present. Also it would have a numbing effect on the tongue which is also not characteristic of mdma. Please note this forum as well as a number of other forums seem to be reporting unusual mdma experiences. Top cat is from the same neck of the woods as swim and therefore i am confident he has had the fake (or adulterated) mdma that is going around. In addition to what top cat had experienced, swim like other people had severe nausea, restlessness and a panic attack. swim is a veteran mdma user and has never had such an experience before.
If anyone has identified what this substance is please do give us your feedback.
 
Sounds like a full blown MDMA experience with hallucinogenic effects from an added impurity (MDA perhaps?)

When a persons mind is riled up like that, it's usually a flood of chemicals through the brain. Must have been good quality MDMA.
 
Lots of MDMA (redosing usually involved) + weed + sleep deprivation is the perfect recipe for strong hallucinations, somewhat of a combination of visuals from psychedelics and the effects of deliriants. It can be fascinating but also very confusing.
 
To all the non believers: I have tripped so much harder and more real from MDMA than any other drug.. and i have k-holed many times, taken 1mg of LSD on several occasions.. high dose mushrooms, etc etc and mixes of all sorts. MDMA and being tired while being in a semi-lit place = most realistic hallucinations you could imagine.. also.. in this state.. delirium is usually present so answering these hallucinated people / conversations is also pretty common ;)

1 time at a rave i opened my eyes to realise i was laying on a dirty floor with my phone in both hands as if it was a controller.. i thought i was at my mates house playing mortal kombat on the ps2.. i was also playing tony hawks and i apparently said to my friend: heres my board but wheres my skater? while doing some ollie type movements with my hand.
 
That experience sounds like high dose MDA to me. MDA can be really intense.

especially considering the hallucinations didn't occur until towards the tail end of the trip. IME MDA's visuals usually become much MUCH more intense towards the end of the trip.
 
MDA, for sure. I've seen hallucinations with MDA pills, I believe its pretty common. Nothing serious though-- just very noticeable slow tracers, like a low dose of LSD.
 
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