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Whatever you do I would recommend staying far away from propylhexedrine.
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Best legal stimulant?
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theotherside
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^^^^ Why do you rec. that? Because of the nasty comedown?
Tryptamine*Dreamer
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I'm nit fixing errors much. keyboARd is fucked and so am I. of those I've tried:
1.mephdephedrone and mathylone(if it counts as legal) 2. mdpv(if counted as legal) 3.bzp(if you are in most of the world, but not the USA)
Meph and Methadrone are very similar, the firt a lttle more of the MDMA ;likew effects not lot of difference
I think it has been established that methylone is an analog. Otherwise, it is best.
This is all a matter of opinion amd what you have tried. All are as good as or better than amphetamine.
BZP seemed a bit easier on the heart and heart rate but sometimes caused nausea. On the other hand, severe nausea(never got it) would make y HR and BP soar. Not sure which of those two better. MDPV is best of all for a minute when you smoke it, then you have to smoke more.
I'll try to avoid doing that again, can't believe how fast a gram goes smoked. My heart rate could have approached 200 when I ran out of tizanidine. I started usinhg various other less effective bp meds after I ran out of alpha blockers. but I failed to exercise any self control.
mephadrone and methylone both produce easily a whole day of bliss(redose many times) for a gram. Even better if you add repeated cannabinoid hits, a opiate, and small-large dose of sstrong psychedelic(LSD, DOI, DOC, 2C-T-7,mushrooms)
MDPV was best for fuyntional use, but don't smoke or you'll act like a crackhead. I was less lazy and more productive on MDPV. Not a lot of euphoria unless mixed with opiates or smoked. I warn against smoking. it isn't too functional to jit the pipie evevery few minutes.
BZP alone at 100-200,g was excellent for gett9ing things done. Side effects start getting worse at 350+, my limit is 325.
Mephedrone and methylone are not good funcytioanally, except rarely when mood hits.
Ephedra gives some energy, n0ot a lot
Provigil will help you through, put not strong
Bupropion about same
Propylhexadtrine can beb ver-yc euphoric. It almost fely like methylone onece
l-metamp - funciional, stay low, watch BP-
1.mephdephedrone and mathylone(if it counts as legal) 2. mdpv(if counted as legal) 3.bzp(if you are in most of the world, but not the USA)
Meph and Methadrone are very similar, the firt a lttle more of the MDMA ;likew effects not lot of difference
I think it has been established that methylone is an analog. Otherwise, it is best.
This is all a matter of opinion amd what you have tried. All are as good as or better than amphetamine.
BZP seemed a bit easier on the heart and heart rate but sometimes caused nausea. On the other hand, severe nausea(never got it) would make y HR and BP soar. Not sure which of those two better. MDPV is best of all for a minute when you smoke it, then you have to smoke more.
I'll try to avoid doing that again, can't believe how fast a gram goes smoked. My heart rate could have approached 200 when I ran out of tizanidine. I started usinhg various other less effective bp meds after I ran out of alpha blockers. but I failed to exercise any self control.
mephadrone and methylone both produce easily a whole day of bliss(redose many times) for a gram. Even better if you add repeated cannabinoid hits, a opiate, and small-large dose of sstrong psychedelic(LSD, DOI, DOC, 2C-T-7,mushrooms)
MDPV was best for fuyntional use, but don't smoke or you'll act like a crackhead. I was less lazy and more productive on MDPV. Not a lot of euphoria unless mixed with opiates or smoked. I warn against smoking. it isn't too functional to jit the pipie evevery few minutes.
BZP alone at 100-200,g was excellent for gett9ing things done. Side effects start getting worse at 350+, my limit is 325.
Mephedrone and methylone are not good funcytioanally, except rarely when mood hits.
Ephedra gives some energy, n0ot a lot
Provigil will help you through, put not strong
Bupropion about same
Propylhexadtrine can beb ver-yc euphoric. It almost fely like methylone onece
l-metamp - funciional, stay low, watch BP-
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Bluelighter
If you are looking for a stimulant that you can use for a while (daily) it would make sense to just get one scripted. Thats legal if you can convince a doctor. In that category I like:
1.Desoxyn (kinda a pipedream though,unless you're a long term childhood ADHD patient)
2.Dexedrine
3.Vyvanse
4. Adderall
5. IR Ritalin
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1.Desoxyn (kinda a pipedream though,unless you're a long term childhood ADHD patient)
2.Dexedrine
3.Vyvanse
4. Adderall
5. IR Ritalin
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dufftx
Bluelighter
are yellow jackets still around?..they sped me up pretty well
Ds
Bluelight Crew
Hmmmmm, best legal stimulant? I guess I'm going to go with ephedrine. You need a ID to buy it tho.
Caffeine is my second.
Caffeine is my second.
doppelganga196
Bluelighter
IMO of course, in no order
Caffeine
Tobacco
Modafinil
Khat
ephedrine
Oh & coca leaf, man i chewed wads of that in college!
Caffeine
Tobacco
Modafinil
Khat
ephedrine
Oh & coca leaf, man i chewed wads of that in college!
dj_esky
Bluelighter
get a 4 pack of RED BULL and drink it, remember to remove it from the can first!
If you're going the OTC route, you're more or less krutzed IMO. It's all garbage.
Pseudoephedrine doesnt have any mental stimulation effect.
Ephedrine has way too much in the way of physical side effects.
Those herbal things are a real crapshoot, but most of them are garbage, and usually the active ingredients are ephedra (ephedrine + garbage), caffine, and stuff that doesnt do jack shit.
Party pills with BZP are great if they're legal where you are.
Propylhexadrine had, for me at least, negative physical side effects that outweighed the positives, even at small doses, and i couldnt focus worth crap, was just bouncing off the walls, heart bouncing out of chest, then crashing, and i since i played with it (a couple inhalers worth over like, a month), i've had occasional palpitations.
RC's give you some good options, but they're grey in terms of legality.
Mephedrone is more-ish and has had some horrifying side-effects.
Methedrone sounds worse than meph but with even worse side effects. (not touching this or meph with a 10 foot pole)
MDPV might work, if dose was controlled carefully
Methylone may not be what you're looking for, but in small (really small) doses, i find that it wakes me up and puts me in a good mood, without doing much else. Butylone, same deal most likely (havn't tried it yet), but might be better as it's generally said to be more of a stimulant...
Dimethocaine, i havn't looked into, but if it's coke-like, it's probably not the right kind of stimulant.
I've tried mdpv and amphetamine for being wakeful and focused at work, but neither of them, imo, is that great at this. For me there doesn't seem to be a medium between "groggy and unfocused" and "too hyper to focus well" - stims never seem to work well for me if i'm just sitting in one place though (as is the case in many jobs nowadays).
Pseudoephedrine doesnt have any mental stimulation effect.
Ephedrine has way too much in the way of physical side effects.
Those herbal things are a real crapshoot, but most of them are garbage, and usually the active ingredients are ephedra (ephedrine + garbage), caffine, and stuff that doesnt do jack shit.
Party pills with BZP are great if they're legal where you are.
Propylhexadrine had, for me at least, negative physical side effects that outweighed the positives, even at small doses, and i couldnt focus worth crap, was just bouncing off the walls, heart bouncing out of chest, then crashing, and i since i played with it (a couple inhalers worth over like, a month), i've had occasional palpitations.
RC's give you some good options, but they're grey in terms of legality.
Mephedrone is more-ish and has had some horrifying side-effects.
Methedrone sounds worse than meph but with even worse side effects. (not touching this or meph with a 10 foot pole)
MDPV might work, if dose was controlled carefully
Methylone may not be what you're looking for, but in small (really small) doses, i find that it wakes me up and puts me in a good mood, without doing much else. Butylone, same deal most likely (havn't tried it yet), but might be better as it's generally said to be more of a stimulant...
Dimethocaine, i havn't looked into, but if it's coke-like, it's probably not the right kind of stimulant.
I've tried mdpv and amphetamine for being wakeful and focused at work, but neither of them, imo, is that great at this. For me there doesn't seem to be a medium between "groggy and unfocused" and "too hyper to focus well" - stims never seem to work well for me if i'm just sitting in one place though (as is the case in many jobs nowadays).
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bang that shit
Bluelighter
this is most definitely true. Docs are so quick to give them out these days. all I had to say was I had trouble paying attention in class and I got a script, i obviously said more than that but you get the idea
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Why not gurana? Get it from the health food store or pharmacy.
I used to take one or two every morning (2000mg tabs) more when I went out raving, before I took the good drugs later in the night
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Caffeine is SHITE and dangerous
I used to take one or two every morning (2000mg tabs) more when I went out raving, before I took the good drugs later in the night
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Caffeine is SHITE and dangerous
Adderall ( Amphetamine salts ) IS legal in New jersey W/ a prescription. My friend gets 90-30mgs a month. And now the Doc has just switched him to (I cant believe this but have seen it) 10mg of PURE Amphetamine salt.... It goes under the Tongue like Suboxen but he says it hits him way faster and harder!
Ill find out myself on the 10th when his next script comes in,lol....
Ill find out myself on the 10th when his next script comes in,lol....
opiatekrzy
Bluelighter
Adderall, Ritalin, or any of those types, which are schedule II substances require a prescription to possess, if busted with these drugs without a prescription, your going to jail no questions asked. NEw YOrk state, since schedule II is federal i assume that is nationwide (US)
HdoubleODeezy
Bluelighter
best legal stimulant?? hmm.. geranamine (Methylhexaneamine) (DMAA) its got many names. i think it would be the best as just a stimulant without other psychoactive effects like mephedrone and shit like that.
I think you guys are really confused about what "legal" means. It doesn't mean shit that you can potentially get with a prescription, because you can even get cocaine with a prescription (yes, it's in eyedrops for ophthalmic surgery--but extremely regulated). The only things that you cannot ever potentially get legally are Schedule 1 substances. (And this is in America we're talking about. Other countries have completely different rules.)
Legal drugs mean drugs that are not controlled substances. Even Schedule 5 substances are controlled substances, even though some you can get over the counter with certain restrictions. Here are some examples of legal stimulants:
Caffeine - the world's #1 drug; tea leaves, coffee beans, guarana
Nicotine - well, if you're over 18
Ephedrine - you have to show ID and put your name on a list--thanks to the Patriot Act
Theobromine - the mild stimulant in chocolate, a chemical cousin to caffeine
Theophylline - found in kola nuts (which is a major "flavor" ingredient in Coca-COLA)
Legal drugs mean drugs that are not controlled substances. Even Schedule 5 substances are controlled substances, even though some you can get over the counter with certain restrictions. Here are some examples of legal stimulants:
Caffeine - the world's #1 drug; tea leaves, coffee beans, guarana
Nicotine - well, if you're over 18
Ephedrine - you have to show ID and put your name on a list--thanks to the Patriot Act
Theobromine - the mild stimulant in chocolate, a chemical cousin to caffeine
Theophylline - found in kola nuts (which is a major "flavor" ingredient in Coca-COLA)
vvViolet
Bluelighter
i totally second this recommendation. energized and chill; perfectly said.
i'd go with nicotine as my second choice.
^agreed. DMAA is pretty good stuff for being legal.
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