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Wanting to try meth

Start with MDMA no way nearly as dangerous and it's an amazing high. why even consider coke MDMA is way better
 
why even consider coke
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Depends on where you live. In Australia, Coke is very, very expensive so even if you got addicted to that you still couldnt afford to keep up your habit and you essentially just 'give up' lol. You just naturally get over it cause its classed as a 'luxury' item here. Its not a need - its a want.

Where as Meth is a need to some people.

Like Brody said, stick with MDMA to try out. Dont even know why people venture into hard drugs when they are new to drugs. Weed and MDMA are your starting point and if your smart enough should be your last...

I was reading some news the other day about how weed is dangerous (in terms of introducing you to other drugs). In a sence, yes thats very true. How many of us here tried weed and got curious about other drugs thinking "aww mad I wanna try heaps of shit now". Thinking along the timeline, Im gonna blame ciggarettes. If I didnt take up smoking in the early days then I would of no way got into weed. Then from weed, got into pills. And so on and so on.

I guess Smoking really does kill... haha
 
I don't know if weed is a gateway drug, just that's it usually the first people try because it's so widely used and available. I don't think it's anything particular about weed, if something else was the most widely available that would be the 'gateway' drug. And anyway, once someone is willing to cross that line and try one illegal drug there much more likely to try another, whether the first was weed or not.

The first drug I tried was meth, even before weed, so I hit the ground running ;)
 
Gormur said:
i never understood all the hype behind meth and after doing crystal countless times this year, i still don't. it's the only drug effective against my ADD so i feel normal and centered while on it

strangely, d-amp (vyvanse) my script makes me tweak out tho, unlike meth.. i can't stand it and get really irritable on it now. meth makes me calm and i sleep better when i come down

being high on meth to me is like being super sober, which is fun i guess cause then i can function and get some things accomplished with work

never had sleep issues with meth

don't use more than you need, eat and exercise and you should be fine

peace
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What you've described is exactly how I feel with meth. I have always wondered if I do have some undiagnosed add because other people can be bouncing off the walls on meth while I just feel content, sober, and relatively chill. Anyways, i'm a pretty infrequent user and only score when there's a special occasion going on.

Meth also makes me sleep well too. I work nights so that means when I want to fix my schedule back to those of most normal human beings it can be a real bitch. However, if I do some meth bright and early in the morning and tweak until evening I learned that I can crash out exactly around 11pm and wake up the next day feeling fine.
 
sublimer45er said:
Look I'm not being nasty or have anything against people who do it but like...what sort of recommendation is that? Seriously.

Telling people to try Herion? Thats prob. the worst drug out there with negatives out-weighing meth and other harsh drugs out there. Im not dissing anyone that does it but like encouraging some new people to try Heroin when you clearly know that is worst than Meth.

Anyone here agree with me on this one?
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Well in the spirit of harm reduction, nobody should ever recommend heroin or any strong opiate to someone curious to move on to harder drugs. Heroin is very addicting but then again so is Meth... it depends on the person as to which drug would be easier to avoid a dependency - everyone is different.

I am a former heroin addict, and also someone who has taken dexamphetamine close to every day for years. The dex I no longer abuse, just take as directed, and I haven't touched heroin in a couple months (now also off the suboxone train!). I have never tried meth so I cannot comment on that specifically.

I've heard those who have been/are addicted to both drugs (heroin and meth) say it is a crapshoot. Many people say meth is easier to get hooked on after the first use than with heroin... but that if you play around long/hard enough with strong opiates, heroin will grip you harder eventually. The key with both, however, is to avoid addiction to either.

So whatever you try, simply make yourself not do it or think about it again for at least a week or two. Anything less and you're in for trouble. Hard drugs are called that for a reason... there are hard lessons to be learned.

It is also worth noting that pure heroin (or any opiate not named demerol), and its effects on the body, is *much* more mild of a drug than methamphetamine. This is a fact... meth is toxic, especially when abused, to the heart and nervous system while opiates are completely non-toxic. This conclusion mostly points to short-term or one-time effects... get addicted to either drug and you'll end up sickly.
 
try to use either drug to get high all the time and you'll end up sick

but if you're using minimally, maybe not even daily, to function better i don't see a problem

if you don't have self-control then don't use drugs :\
 
OK i've tried crystal once. Someone gave me 4g of crystal and I started shooting it up.... then I started hearing things, and seeing things that weren't there, next thing I know I'm dragging my GF from one train to the next traveling all over NYC trying to ditch the cops that were following me, I did this for five days before I hen dragged her onto a metro north train which i took al the way to poughkeepsie and started yelling at everyone on the train to leave me alone and hat i wasn't a criminal somehow i wasn't arrested and I got off the train and ran around poughkeepsie refusing to get on a bus then my GF called my mom and she came to get me, I ended up in a psychiatric hospital in Albany for 3 days, they let me out, but I lied to them I was still certain people had been chasing me, I was certain of it for months.... Now I know I was going nuts, but for 3 months I thought the cops were out to get me.... One upside was that I was too paranoid to cop my heroin, so I kicked.... Maybe I should do some more and kick again.....

I'd just stay away from it.
 
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If anyone wants a good reason to not try meth, let me know, and I'll just send you a photo of my teeth and gums. :\
 
lol i don't have any dental problems and i've been using it for over a year as well as a lot of other stims. all you have to do is brush your teeth, eat well, drink lots of water and take supplements like magnesium to prevent tooth decay

it's like eating sugar all the time without brushing your teeth. of course you're gonna end up toothless, but blaming the sugar for your poor hygiene is ludicrous

alcohol has been far more hazardous to my health than meth but the simple fact that meth is stigmatized and booze isn't makes it ok to society when a legal drug gives me problems simply because it's viewed as safe or acceptable by society to use it

i just wish more people used common sense and stopped playing the victim card. i'm a victim of my own making, not some drug. this mentality is partially why drugs become illegal. people always want to blame something else for their problems

if all people just accepted chemicals for what they are, without discrepancy, medicine would advance much further. with all good things comes responsibility. food, drugs and sex are no exception

once people get beyond their own issues, the world becomes a much more intelligent place

peace :)
 
well, if you smoke 'til your mouth feels rubbery and dried out, you'll probably end up with 'meth mouth' eventually. But yeah, if you don't smoke 'til you can't get any higher and can no longer get higher, than your teeth probably could survive it. The common theory on meth mouth is that it's caused by chronic dry mouth. I think your body burns through more calcium than usual too on high doses of meth.

Gormur, do you consider yourself to be a recreational user of meth?
 
lazydullard said:
Gormur, do you consider yourself to be a recreational user of meth?
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more like a functional user as it eases my ADD symptoms. if i wanted to get high i'd feel like i was wasting a lot.. good pure stuff is expensive and i don't particularly enjoy the spun feeling. i like doing enough just to relax and focus

i did get high on my bday because it was all free, but i can count how many times i've gotten high on meth on one hand

my brain chemistry is probably a lot different from most people tho. the only stims i really enjoy getting high off of are cocaine and mda/mdma
 
the weird thing is meth hcl has a much different feel, at least ime

the first meth i ever had was yabba and i was chill but it was rather intense - it kept me up all night. later when i tried crystal it was similar but much smoother feeling, no crash and i slept like a baby every time

i think a lot of people complaining of bad crashes on meth may be getting dirty stuff.. if they're already taking care of themselves .. just a guess tho
 
I got some pharm d-meth a little while ago & though the crash was much easier than street amphet I'd done in the past.

As for the high.. the initial rushes were really great, but the main high was a bit dull without a few other things thrown into the mix, but I'm not the biggest fan of plain stimulants.
 
Its like any other drug. If the effects are to one's liking, it can be great fun....in moderation. I've always been a bit on the high-strung side, and went years without caring for speed. Later, I discovered I really enjoyed it. Amphetamines seem to build tolerance extremely rapidly for me, so 2-3 days is about as long as I can go before they lose their luster.

When I got out of high school in the late 70's, I worked as a welder in a factory. In those days, there were still docs who would prescribe amphetamines for weight loss. I recall getting 15mg Desoxyn (methamphetamine) pills and really going to town for a few days!
 
This is one drug I'd like to try just a couple of times, I once regarded it as the devils drug & something to not even think about, but it just seems like something that has to be tried at least once, it sounds soooo nice!, even the stimulation for days appeals to me to some degree.

I have read all the warnings & posts from people who had/are having their lives destroyed by this too - I've seen some horrific pictures as well. I'm really not someone who gets addicted to anything drug wise, I'm always moving on to new things. I doubt there'll be any around here though so slim chance but I'll give it some thought.
 
I will also have a change to try meth soon. Im at Thailand at the moment but my friends shit is crystal meth not yaba. Im interested to try but little scared coz i havent tryed any speed, only done coke few times with the same guy who has now crystal source. Is meth ok for first amp experience?
 
^ Trying meth for a first amp experience is like drinking a bottle of straight vodka for a first alcohol experience. In my opinion.
 
Meth was cool the first year I used it. After that I started having A LOT of problems. Chose meth over my gf, all of my non tweaker friends, school, and the only job I've had. I used to be able to stay up for 5 days at a time without any problems.

One night I went crazy with it and did 9 or 10 huge hotrails. I started hallucinating that spiders were everywhere. They would crawl all over me and I'd swat them away(I could actually feel my hands hit them). I ran outside in just my boxers standing at the end of the driveway at 3am waiting for my brother to come home because they kept attacking me in the house.

While waiting outside I kept having to run back inside because I convinced myself that I was hearing sirens and the police were coming for me. When I'd run back inside the spiders were preparing to ambush me along with people sized shadows that were shaped exactly like my parents (who weren't even there) and I thought they were waiting around the corner in the kitchen to have an intervention for me.

The whole spider experience completely ruined meth for me. Whenever I stay up for more than a day now I get extremely paranoid that they are going to appear soon. It also turns me into a huge ball of anxiety now so it's not even enjoyable anymore.


Say hello to the shadow people for me if you decide to try it!
 
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I have snorted crystal meth a couple of times during the course of a day and smoked it a few times during the course of a day. I have used coke, crack, ritalin, dextroamphetamine, mdpv an expected it to be like dextroamphetamine.

Snorting it is a bit better than dextroamphetamine and smoking it is way better than crack but you won't sleep for 2-3 days no matter what downers you take. Its something I wouldn't do again, but i'm glad i tried it.
 
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