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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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have you been stable on 16mg for almost a year? if you have been then youve got buckleys chance(fuck all) at getting high on codeine, itll be the exact same case as you had with the oxy - not worth it. youd have to taper right down to maybe around 0.5mg before you would even get high off codeine, even then youd be pushing for luck. maybe look into potentiation if youre going to give it a try. if you want to get high i would try other opiates, not codeine.

taking the codeine will definitely help take away symptoms of the wd, but won't get you high after being on 16mg of bupe for around a year.

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Thanks for the advice! Great Forum BTW!!!

To answer some questions, I don't have a doc, no insurance. I never really used oxy or H to the point of being really strung out. I could take 2-3 month breaks without much problem. I was randomly introduced to suboxone and started to use regularly over the course of a year. I think it was a combination of having back pain issues (skiing accident), and dealing with the loss of my daughter.

There are 2 main reasons why I'd like to stop. First is because I have to go through unorthodox methods to get it (I don't do ANY other drugs or drink as of almost a year). The second reason is because it limits what antidepressants I can take. I'm working on getting some medical assistance at the free clinic. I was denied the state funded insurance.

I guess I could try to get a script if all goes well with my med assistance (I'm reapplying). That'd take care of the major concerns I have with it.

I haven't been at all functional for awhile and I really need help... (took me a long time to realize this).
 
Tapering Suboxone - 2mg vs 8mg Pills

I'm down to between 1 and 2mg a day. I've been breaking my 8mg pills into eighths and taking between 1 and 2 a day. I go to the doctor tomorrow and I was wondering if I should ask him to switch me to the 2mg pills because breaking these 8mg pills into anything smaller than eighths is a really small piece and is kind of hard to do. Will the 2mg pills be any easier or are they just 1/4th the size and be just as hard?
 
InTheZone614 said:
First off, you can abuse it, where you cant abuse suboxone to get high, and secondly, you think suboxone wd's suck? well wait till u run outta methadone!
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It's easier to abuse Suboxone than it is methadone.

Deadhead420 said:
I'm down to between 1 and 2mg a day. I've been breaking my 8mg pills into eighths and taking between 1 and 2 a day. I go to the doctor tomorrow and I was wondering if I should ask him to switch me to the 2mg pills because breaking these 8mg pills into anything smaller than eighths is a really small piece and is kind of hard to do. Will the 2mg pills be any easier or are they just 1/4th the size and be just as hard?
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The 2mg pills, I am pretty sure, are a little larger than just 1/4th the size of an 8mg pill.

A 2mg section of an 8mg pill seems to be smaller than an N2 from what I remember. If anyone has exact measurements that would be interesting to know.

I would stick with the 8mg pills. Just use a pill crusher to divide powder into piles, it's the easiest way to split up doses. It's pretty efficient too.
 
Suboxone/heroin/withdrawals from both of them............help

Hey i have been on off subs and dope for awhile now...............almost a year...............first was subs for like six months then last few months its been dope more often ...........at least couple days a week and then subs on days i cant get dope or decide not to.............recently made it 5 days with no subs but did dope, roxy , vicodin.............So question is when i am sick am i coming off of both since sub is still in my system even if i stop it and did dope for 2 days ? I can get by on low sub doses, like 1-2 mg for 24 hours or so and be ok , but i only have 3 subs left and want to stop the dope and get offf subs. if i had way to get more sub id stay on longer but i dont now............So whats best way to wean with just the 3 i have ? Really the depression is what keeps me going to back to the dope............ im tired of it but am stuck...........almost seems like if it was just comin off dope i could be sick few days and get over it but with subs the W/d just drag on and on and on
and cant go away to detox or rehab .............not option now.......and no money to pay for sub Dr. just get em if i come across them...........
 
Dont look at it as if you're coming off of heroin, but not suboxone, or you're coming off of suboxone but not heroin, or vicodin, or whatever. You're coming off of ''opioids''. It's all really the same in the end, minus some alterations in duration fo withdrawal, and intesity.

Were I you, I would take between half, and a whole, 8mg suboxone on day one. Day two, I would take only 2mg of suboxone. Day three through seven, I would take only one miligram of buprenorphine. After day seven, drop down to a half mili, or less. Try to skip days in dosing. Take as LITTLE as you can and still be ''tolerably'' comfortable. Do this until you are out of suboxones.

After you are out, cuddle up with some Immodium, a few gallons of gatorade, and if at all possible, some benzos and some clonodine / lofexedine depending on where you're located. At this point its really a matter of will power. You can do it. We all can. Get in that ''I want to be clean, I want to be TRUELY happy, blah blah'' mind set. And carry on. Don't stop. Once you take your last sub, stay fast to the concept of that being your LAST dose of ANY opiate EVER. (minus getting an IV in the hospital, say, after a physically traumatic event.)

This is as easy as you can make it. It takes will power to fill in the rest. You can do it. Be safe, and be well.

-Cy
 
hey guys , "St. John's wort potentiating Buprenorphine" , any thoughts on that since I'm yet to try it out ? I've read the odd post where people claim it actually produces noticeable agonist effects ???!!!!!
 
jake99 said:
OK so basically take 4 mg then 2 mg then 1 mg for a week then .5 then stop ?
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I'd go slower and lower than that... I'd take most of the plunge at first, and slowly decrease from 1mg.

BTW, insuffulation isn't great for your nasal cavity, but it sure helps extend small amounts of bupe. I certainly don't recommend doing it for months, though.
 
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