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MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

Thanks again for the advice, it's helped me out a lot i will still probably arrange a meeting at the doctors just to check things over, my body has taken quite a battering over the years from all the chemicals so i want to be on the safe side.

*edit* Just want to add, what you were saying about finding it hard to drink any liquids i actually find i'm drinking lots of liquid when im on it, some how i'll end up with 4-5 different cups in my room each filled with water at different levels lol.

Also would say it's a good idea to drink a glass of milk if i haven't eaten anything in 2 days for the vitamins?

Ero
 
Rushin my balls off on 30mg peevee at the mo! So much for never touching it again! lol

I just rounded off the bag to half a gram tho. Thought i had 520mg left but actually had 560mg! :)

Did 30mg about 2 hours ago. Gonna do the other 30mg in a while.
Forgot how good this shit feels! :) Love the hornyness. :D
Had to take a bar a few mins ago. Heart poundin like mad! Feel fantastic tho :) :D :)

Lesson learned last time tho. No way I'm goin over 60mg tonite. The remaining half g is staying put! :)

Ero90 - Please post here if your comedown is really bothering you. Empathy helps alot after prolonged high doses! <3
 
^lol. All odds are in my favour once I keep reminding myself of the binge comedown! ;)

I can totally see why I lost control last time tho. Tis crazy stuff! :D
 
Shambles said:
I'll bet one of Spade's bollocks on the Post of Misery, Anguish & Doom coming in around Monday lunchtime ;)

Good luck there, DMT :D<3
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Fuck that!!

Never again! (well... at least while the misery, anguish & doom are still fresh in my mind! ;))

Penty of Merlot & midazolam should knock me out at some stage before morning comes. :)
 
DMT4Blood said:
The comedown from overdoing PV beats the comedowns from daily-use of amp sulphate, mdma & methamphetamine hands down IMO. A high dose PV binge results in psychological & emotional torture. :(

I take my hat off to anyone who has good self-control with PV & who can use it moderatly.
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The real tan MDPV is amazing stuff but I totally agree the come down from binging or long term usage make life SUCK! :( The depth and intensity of anhedonia, dysphoria, apathy and depression took me by surprise. After the tan became impossible for me to find I started using meth again. I had enjoyed 3 years drug free before all this.

GOOD stimulants and GHB/1,4b is an awesome combo.

Physically I am able to maintain muscle, go to work, go to gym and feel healthy while on PV. As compared to being on meth where no matter what I do/eat my body refuses to keep muscle and I look like an evil version of myself. The last few batches of PV made my urine stink and had so much unwanted body load.
 
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sizzurp said:
The depth and intensity of anhedonia, dysphoria, apathy and depression took me by surprise.
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Very accurate description of a high-dose peevee comedown.

Sham / Evad - Uz lost that bet last nite! =D
Didn't go over 60mg. :) Altho I did do ~300mg meph to help with fiending!
Was wired till around 6am but got a great sleep then thanks to 4mg xanax & 30mg midazolam.

My son's granda took him out for the morning to let me ly-in. Fresh as a daisy now. :) Off to dublin in an hour with my son to see my sister & her new baby.
 
Hi y'all!! - well SWIM (?!!?) told me that they fancied trying the madness that is MDPV and despite a setback or two of being ripped off by unscrupulous suppliers (which they have managed to get refunds for from Alertpay!!!), they finally received 500mg 1st class recorded on Thursday, less than 24hrs after ordering, during the postal strike!! - Result....
Anyways, they had invested in a set of highly reliable chinese 0.01g scales from ebay, which they won for a mere penny...mind you the postage was £4.99, so a fiver in all, but all the way from China ffs!!
So, whilst trying to measure out some useable doses they realised that the scales are actually maybe only worth half a penny and the best they could do was roughly 30mg, then eyeball 6 doses = approx 5mg doses. They chopped up 50 doses worth and took it out on the town last night. Swims favourite RC of the moment is M1.
They took 5mg(ish) of PV just before the evening meal at about 2000hrs, then about 30mg of M1 at 2145. Then another 5mg(ish) of PV at about 2230. Over the next couple of hours a pint and a half of lager was consumed (They were driving - got to keep it safe!!). About 0030 another 30mg of M1 and the same again about 0200.

They reported a most enjoyable evening, no bingeing - easy conversation, effortless dancing and great sex. SWIMS g/f reported the same on similar dosages. As was said earlier, their favourite RC is M1 and they use it sparingly for the subtler effects. It would appear that adding PV into the equation allows the M1 empathy experience and still keeps it chilled whilst providing access to energy for dancing / shagging and other fun stuff.
Access to sleep gained about 0400 via a can of cider and a cup of chamomile tea!!

SWIM stated that they really enjoy the complementing of the two RCs and see this as the way forward. They appreciate that bingeing PV can end in messy/painful times and will do everything to avoid this. The M1 is there for a bit of weekend fiending if required with low dosage PV to supplement occasionally. Certainly as a first pass, this has got the two thumbs up seal of approval :D

Apologies to those that may think SWIMS post isn't worth the time it took to type it due to lack of substance abuse - as you can see from their dosages they are a real hellfire wildcat, pushing the limits and bounderies ;). After a period of time doing that they actually realised the subtle effects of lower dosages are far more rewarding (for them) than taking so much they are not sure wtf happened. Obviously YMMV.

I believe they are planning a similar night tonight, only throwing a little MDMA into the equation too!! - happy helloween ;)

p.s. - all dosages taken orally, apparently....and PV was white stuff that clumped when being chopped up - handy for cramming into 200mg gel caps...lonely looking though!
p.p.s - MDPV is SWIMs initials, MDP + V. Anyone watching Trueblood will know that V = vampire blood = best drug out there...interesting co-incidence for halloween, no? ;)
 
Just a tip for you all if it hasn't already been mentioned, if you're going to end up going on a few day binge of MDPV like i have and you don't particularly enjoy having piles/haemorrhoids after the binge, then try not to go to toilet too often to force decrement out like me :/
 
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MDPV IS ILLEGAL in the United States!

I just found out it IS illegal to import and possess MDPV, even though it's not a named Scheduled drug, but "contains" Pyrovalerone, a Schedule 5 Substance, in its structure...plus, it stimulates:

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr/cfr/1308/1308_15.htm

"(d) Stimulants. Unless specifically exempted or excluded or unless listed in another schedule, any material, compound, mixture, or preparation which contains any quantity of the following substances having a stimulant effect on the central nervous system, including its salts, isomers and salts of isomers:
(1) Pyrovalerone 1485 "

Then they do some type of conversion using conversion factors to find out the structural weight of the Pyrovalerone in the molecule Methylenedioxypyrovalerone.

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/quotas/conv_factor/index.html

Though the name methylenedioxypyrovalerone isn't on the list, it is still listed in the United States Code above...no isomers!



I think I just received a seizure of my MDPV from the mail.

First of all, the Registered Mail Number indicated the usual:

"Inbound International Arrival, DATE AND TIME, ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)"

But, then, no further updates for 14 days.

No "Inbound into Customs." No "Inbound out of Customs." No "Processed through Sort Facility." No "Arrival at Post Office." No updates at all.

But, ""Inbound International Arrival, DATE AND TIME, ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)." That's where it ended for 14 dayS...until today.

A strange truck drove by and left our mail, a truck I had not seen before, I believe. (I was waiting for my registered mail letter, which I thought would have legal MDPV in it, or a "Love Letter" from the USCBP, which I've heard so much about.)

The gate to my property was open, so he should have just driven right in and delivered the letter!

Instead, he left a notice in my mailbox that my registered mail letter would be available for pickup at the post office on Monday.

I don't think I'm going to pick it up. What do you think would happen if I went?

Strangely, the night before the delivery of the pick-up notice, my cell phone starts lighting up at 4:00 AM in the morning. I find out later that the GPS Locator was turned on. I then disabled it, but I know 9-1-1 always has access. I think someone might have been making sure I was at that address before leaving the notice.

BTW, it's the regular orange postal notice, even looks like my postal carrier's handwriting (it probably is his), and the person in the strange, big black truck also left us our regular mail, cards, letters.

Look at this:
http://forums.steroid.com/archive/index.php/t-102558.html

Then this:*snip*

But, then there's this:
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2002/aprqtr/19cfr145.59.htm


What do you think I should do? What do you think is going on?
Bad supplier? Customs really got it and they're waiting for me to sign for the package?
(But, it doesn't say on the pink slip that I have to sign anything, even though it's a registered letter.)
Is there a way I can sign a "non-signature?"

I just wish I could go there and I would have had my "legal" MDPV in the mail.



List of controlled substances:
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/schedules.htm

Conversion Factors for controlled substances:
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/quotas/conv_factor/index.html



All I wanted to do was to give up illegal drugs and move into the legal research chemical world, and now even that is shot.

What, am I going to kill myself drinking beer, or be filled with the Holy Spirit and drunk in His Presence?

I think they're upping their quotas for the end of the year by opening and seizing everything. Well, most everything.
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/quotas/index.html


Anyway, 21 CFR clearly seems to state that anything "containing" pyrovalerone, as a material, compound, mixture, or preparation which contains any quantity of Pyrovalerone, and stimulates the C.N.S. Methylenedioxypyrovalerone "contains" pyrovalerone in its chemical structure, and the DEA has was to convert how to "weigh" that amount in the structure.

Can you imagine if they did a double-whammy and lumped methylenedioxy into the equation, as per MDMA? Not likely, but please regard the previous paragraph.

21 CFR seems to outlaw methylenedioxypyrovalerone because it "contains" pyrovalerone in its chemical structure.



Shout this from the rooftops and on all the threads! I researched for months and didn't finally stumble upon the U.S. code on MDPV till now.

SPREAD THE WORD!




[Sorry if I'm in the wrong thread, but this info has to get out!]
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you should (re)read the wikipedia article on it to grap the isomer concept. MDPV isn't an isomer of Pyrovalone.
 
immad said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you should (re)read the wikipedia article on it to grap the isomer concept. MDPV isn't an isomer of Pyrovalone.
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I edited for you.

I used to cook, so I should have remembered levo-dextro and racemates.

But, anyway, this stuff seems very likely to be illegal in the DEA's sight, but not by anyone I've read from on most of the internet, at least from some links popping up through tedious searching through google.
 
Remember, research chemicals, not for human or animal consumption...so be ready to confirm with them the research you were about to carry out with it (it's a start)....then get in touch with the post office, tell them you've received the notification but aren't expecting anything and walk away from it....or of course you could just bluff your way through it all in the hope that you get it, but, is it worth the hassle...it does sound like a well dodgy set of coincidences.
Good luck whichever way it goes and whatever you decide to do - let us know how it goes.....
 
It's schedule 5, pyrovalerone. The analogue law only extends to schedule 1 and 2 drugs. That said, it could be considered an analogue of MDMA, however structurally different it may be, this is the DEA here and I'm sure if you went out selling kilograms quantities in the states they will both make your life a living hell and figure out some charge to lay on you. And if God forbid someone dies from taking said compound, they'll probably nail you with manslaughter or murder.

So just be smart with it. If you're going to use it, buy personal amounts, do not give it to your friends and exercise caution.

I tried sublingual the other night. 2mg. It was as potent at 10mg oral methylphenidate instant release. If I were to guess I'd say this stuff is about five times as potent as methylphenidate. Probably my last adventure with the MDPV, I just think my prescribed ADHD meds work better.

My best guess is that your product is actually at the post office, waiting for you.

If you're busted with personal amount of controlled substance analogues your prosecution will likely fall under state jurisdiction too, the feds won't want to put their hands in it because providing a strong case for a controlled substance analogue requires paying scientists to speak about the compounds and results in prolonged legal battles. The state itself would probably have a hard time with it too, and might drop the charges. This is all for personal amounts though, you know, 250mg-2g or whatever.
 
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I hope to God it's in there, and no Seizure has/will happen

nuke said:
My best guess is that your product is actually at the post office, waiting for you.
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THAT'S MY HOPE!

nuke said:
If you're busted with personal amount of controlled substance analogues your prosecution will likely fall under state jurisdiction too, the feds won't want to put their hands in it because providing a strong case for a controlled substance analogue requires paying scientists to speak about the compounds and results in prolonged legal battles. The state itself would probably have a hard time with it too, and might drop the charges. This is all for personal amounts though, you know, 250mg-2g or whatever.
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IMPORTING/EXPORTING OF SHED. 4 & 5's, seemingly no matter the quantity, is up to a year in jail.

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache...ces&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

This is all so funny, because all I wanted to do was stay legal, get out of everything illegal, and be a "good citizen" of this country.

I'll just have to stick with Benzedrex occasionally, until they might go after that.

If I wanted anything illegal, I would drive 35 miles away and get c/H/or mj, and I don't want to do that anymore.

Thanks all!

<3
 
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i really used to love mdpv, and when people talk about its effects it gets me interested again. though the talk of how feindish it is put me right off , bringing back the memory of losing around a stone in a month, becoming a paranoid mess and turned to an addictive dick head!
 
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