MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

[theotherside]

Anyone know what benzo would work better for a MDPV comedown? I accidentally did just a little too much and am starting to fiend...HARD. Searching is very difficult task sorry if it's in this thread already.

 

[Bella Figura]

Which benzos have you got at hand? Hypnotics would do a better job at getting you to sleep probably, but enough Diazepam/Alprazolam should be good too.

 

[Acid4Blood]

Anyone know what benzo would work better for a MDPV comedown?

A strong anxiolytic benzo like xanax would be best for during the day.
If you're trying to sleep after using MDPV, a strong hypnotic like midazolam would be best.

I only started taking MDPV on Saturday & I've been taking 2mg xanax bars to eliminate any edginess once the euphoria wears off.

I really overdid it with this stuff & am only feeling the comedown today - not pleasant!

Lost all self-control. Did a total of 480mg from 2am Saturday nite to 10am yesterday morning.

My comedown symptoms are:

Over-sensitive hearing which seems to have lingered from the extremely vivid audio hallucinations that I experienced while on it.

Slight paranoia/edgyness.

Red patches/dry skin on my face.

Decreased motivation.

I suppose alot of these symptoms could be the result of dehydration, sleep dep & not eating. But at the end of the day it was because I failed to use MDPV in moderation.
It would seem I have more self-control with meph than I have with PV!

In short: Really enjoyable high but the difficulty sleeping, edgy comedown, extreme audio hallucinations & my inability to use moderatly make it undesirable for me.

Stims aren't really my thing anyway. The down usually ain't worth the high.

 

[Acid4Blood]

but a peevee binge is a one-off thing - lessons are learned the hard way.

So true!

I'm still recovering from my 480mg fuck-up binge. Had a very broken sleep last night with lots of fuct-up dreams. Been zombified all day.

Can't wait to feel normal again. Still very anxious & scattered.
The comedown is so long & drawn out.

 

[Riklet]

Bah man that sucks, sorry to hear things went so fiendish and scattered. Good luck piecing your noodle back together, sounds like that was a bit of a crazy binge!

Dunno which kind of PV you've had, but the white batch I tried did have quite a jittery comedown and felt more straining on my heart... dunno, I don't find any kind of PV that fiendish really, not quite sure. SOunds like you nom'd a fair amount of xanax, I think that would put me to sleep for a week, don't normally need anything to come down/sleep off (tan) pv although extra snugness is always welcome!

Definitely a lesson learnt then? If you do the stuff again, try and just stick to a single dose or maybe two, you get significant, if subtle effects for a good 6 hours. Bit hard to do, but the comedown is far more bearable. The sleep stuff I think it just depends on the person, i've fallen asleep on PV and speed before. You got any diaz to take the edge off now? That's a fucking shit ton of PV to go through first time

 

[Acid4Blood]

Bah man that sucks, sorry to hear things went so fiendish and scattered. Good luck piecing your noodle back together, sounds like that was a bit of a crazy binge!

Thanks man. It means alot to hear that right now. Still in a really bad place.

SOunds like you nom'd a fair amount of xanax

Yeah, about 20mg (~10 bars) over the few days but I didn't sleep! It just took the edge off the PV.

Definitely a lesson learnt then?

Big time! Don't think I've ever felt so de-personalised (not myself) on a comedown before. Can't trust myself with the stuff at all so don't think I will ever take the remaining 520mg. I wasn't myself while on it so trusting myself to dose moderatly is not really an option.

You got any diaz to take the edge off now?

Yeah, have some diaz, clonaz, temaz, nitraz, midaz, bromaz & alpraz! But at the moment I dont feel like taking anything! I feel so tired I just want to get as much natural sleep as possible. Altho, after the insane nightmares last nite, some diaz might be of help.

Thanks so much for caring. Feel so fucking alone right now its scary. Hopefully everything will go back to normal in a few days!

 

[Shambles]

Am recovering from (yet another 8)) peevee (and the rest ) binge myself, DMT. Today is the first day I've felt anywhere close to being back to baseline - three days minimum to get over it, I'd say. For the last few days I've barely been able to think let alone try to communicate so have been in full-on recovery mode and doing fuck all - even going to the shop for baccy was a massive struggle. I find nothing much helps but trying to eat well and sleep loads. You'll be right in another day or two but the emotional/mental comedown is fuckin' brutal for the first coupla days - feels like you'll never get back to normal but you do. Promise

 

[Acid4Blood]

^^^ Thanx for the reassurance man. Makes me feel alot better to have an idea of the duration of this hellish emotional/mental comedown. It really does feel like things will never go back to normal.

Sorry to hear you're in the same boat Sham. Altho, it's good to know I'm not the only person going through this right now! With plenty of food & lots of sleep we'll be cool in a few days.
Nothing feels better than empathy & reassurance in situations like this.
Thanks again!

It's my son's first birthday tomorrow so I'll have to put on a brave face & not show my fragility. My love for him is never affected by comedowns like this tho. Just makes me want to get over it quicker.

Here's to a quick recovery! Best of luck Sham.

 

[Shambles]

Even last night I was still a complete zombie and had that "Went too far this time - never gonna get right again " feeling but do feel better today. Think this is maybe the fourth day off the peevee and it's definitely on the upturn now.

Makes a bit of a mockery of my "You only binge on peevee once" statement you quoted up there but it's like a scab I can't stop picking at with me - I know that if I have peevee I'll hammer it and feel like shit for days but at the time it's just so damn great :D

Oh yeah, ketamine is the one of the few things that helps with the aftermath for me. Probably not for everyone but the mood lift a few bumps of ket provide definitely help me. I find benzos are only useful for helping to sleep it off but kinda make the zombiedom stuff worse - it's hard enough to think as it is without even more haze :D

Here's to a happy recovery, eh?

 

[theotherside]

I agree with people saying that you learn your lesson from this one. I went into the night using 1 small bump to help the sleepiness that my Morphine binge caused. Next thing I know it's 24 hours later and I'm still going strong until I realized that I had to work this morning. In a panic I took 2mg xanax which only helps the edginess. An hour later I had to take 2 more mg of xanx and 2 cyclones just to manage 4 hours sleep. The fiend is worse than meph/fleph/dimethocaine/methylone and almost as bad as coke. Great high but the edginess reminds me of butylone and benzo's only help so much. I'm gonna put this one on the shelf for long time I think.

I am mostly an opiate/bud kind of person but I've been trying out alot of stims lately. I just can't find one that doesn't make me fiend like a crackhead. Thankgod I can't get a hold of any RC opioids or I would be in real trouble.

 

[easytiger]

DMT/ Shams, hope your feeling better soon guys. Did a 3 day binge on the pevee a couple of weeks back, fuck the come down was rough! copious booze, geebee and a day in bed eventually brought me round altho didnt feel right for about a week. sleep, eat and try get some sunlight if weather allows, you'll soon be right as.

 

[Sturnam]

So I've looked through here about the white/tan MDPV debate, and I was wondering if that white "MDPV" is still confirmed at not MDPV.

I ordered mine from a *snip* website, and it came as the white powder. I don't have access (at least not easily) to the hot KMnO4, so I doubt I'll be able to do that test on it.

I was thinking that maybe the white/tan mix up is mostly confined to the European companies, while the Asian ones might not have the same problem? The only thing is I'm not sure if the European vendors get it from someone else in the first place.

Basically what I'm looking for is confirmed (tested) updates, cause it seemed like the only batch that was actually tested chemically was more than 6 months ago, if not longer. But then again, I didn't read through this entire thread, so I may be wrong.

 

[melchet]

Thanks man. It means alot to hear that right now. Still in a really bad place.



Yeah, about 20mg (~10 bars) over the few days but I didn't sleep! It just took the edge off the PV.


Big time! Don't think I've ever felt so de-personalised (not myself) on a comedown before. Can't trust myself with the stuff at all so don't think I will ever take the remaining 520mg. I wasn't myself while on it so trusting myself to dose moderatly is not really an option.


Yeah, have some diaz, clonaz, temaz, nitraz, midaz, bromaz & alpraz! But at the moment I dont feel like taking anything! I feel so tired I just want to get as much natural sleep as possible. Altho, after the insane nightmares last nite, some diaz might be of help.

Thanks so much for caring. Feel so fucking alone right now its scary. Hopefully everything will go back to normal in a few days!

Just tried it myself Friday night and again tonight. Forgot it wasn't coke and snorted about 300mg (i'm guessing cos no scales) - about 4 hours ago. It looked to be about five or six "good" sized lines that i'd do with coke. Well i won't be sleeping tonight I can tell you! On the plus side it doesn't bung you up so you sound like you have a cold - which is always a dead giveaway. On the minus side i find it difficult to gauge the quantity - not having the necessary paraphenalia. Good overall effects - similar to coke but longer lasting (although this might be down to the near OD quantity i've probably taken! Silly!) Be careful!! You should get over the depression/paranioa within a day or so - assuming you are of otherwise normal constitution!

 

[Shambles]

Welcome to EADD and BL

Other than that, you snorted 300mg of MDPV with no tolerance?!? Over how long a period of time cos that doesn't sound possible unless it was cut to hell or not peevee at all. Even with extreme tolerance somebody couldn't very feasibly use such doses in a day let alone a few hours. 300mg would have the most hardened peevee-fiend dialling 999, I'd imagine.

 

[sunsetter]

^ yeah there is a world of difference between the white/tan,
i could easily do a load of the white,but that tan beige colour stuff i got,one tiny bump had me going for a good 16 hours+ and never felt the need to top up ,which i had with the white every few hours,
the strange thing is both came from same vendor in rapid sucession ,i may have just been lucky and fluked a random 2 g bag of tan after getting 1g of white,who knows,also i have no come down at all which is strange for me as if i even look at a stim i will usually suffer for days,

 

[pfeife]

I am very confused about the white/tan discussion because I received the beige, sticky one. I took 4 mg (liquid solution) orally and had following effects: anorexia, moderate lift mood, slight euphoria/body load, resting pulse 120 BPM, moderate nervousness, slight paranoia. One hour after the peak I took GBL and it felt definitely better than usual, the negative effects were gone but came again less strong after the GBL faded.

So my question to the people who tried the "bad white" batch or both: Were there any obvious effects at a low oral dose like 4 mg? Do these effects resemble a small oral dose of "tan/potent" MDPV?

Will try 5 mg nasally tomorrow.

 

[Shambles]

Hmm... I've never heard of a sticky batch. Do you mean actually wet and sticky or more kinda clumpy? If the latter than I suspect it's probably the newish batch that's doing the rounds. I'd say the effects are somewhere between those of the tan and white - slightly mellower and less tweaked than the white but without the euphoria, clarity and hypersexuality of the tan.

The effects you describe I'd say are broadly typical of MDPV in general but sound most like the new beige batch I mention. The white tends to have more strong negative effects than the tan but the dose you mention fits better with tan. Of course some folks are more sensitive to it than others which may explain that.

Bear in mind that it will be more intense snorted than orally dosed but even the most potent MDPV is quite safe at those levels. GBL really helps with the jitteriness and anxiety that can come with peevee as you noticed.

 

[nuke]

I don't understand how anyone could do 300mg of this in 4 hours. I dug up my batch from years and years ago, a beige clumpy powder with a slight smell of pyrollidine, and tested 4mg nasally to see how that dose would fair for ADHD (which was a few grains of the powder). Within about 5 minutes I was pretty stimulated, my heart was moving 20bpm faster (resting pulse 96) and my sinuses were absurdly clear. I felt fairly relaxed and went about my day as per normal mostly, got a bunch of things done and was able to concentrate a little better. Felt a little miserable on the comedown four hours later but it wasn't anything severe. No desire to redose at all, actually I was pretty done with it a couple hours in as stimulants don't give me a lot of joy, they mostly just keep me from getting distracted from whatever I'd been doing. Not really any euphoria, but NDRIs never usually give me euphoria.

It did make me kind of paranoid around people, though. For instance I kept thinking I was walking too fast and people were staring at me because my walking was speedy so I'd have to slow down to keep from walking so fast. Which in retrospect doesn't make a lot of sense. I think Focalin is a better medication for this reason.

 

[Riklet]

I've seen white MDPV and clumpy powdery tan pv but never anything sticky or "wet", that sounds odd. It's a little sticky actually I guess, kinda sticks to a card when you're chopping it up.

Had some earlier (~5mg?) to aid adventures into town. I find PV quite relaxing, it doesn't make me paranoid or weirded out around people, I quite enjoy power walking around feeling tingly and people watching haha. Can still feel it 6 hours later, but feel a bit lazy and useless now, even though i've got work to do. At least i'm not jittery ha..

 

[Shambles]

300mg of MDPV - unless if it was cut to hell maybe - sounds completely unrealistic to me. Even in the midst of lengthy binges with heavy tolerance I'd struggle to get through more than 100-150mg in 24 hours. And that's smoking the stuff which is brutal for compulsive redosing. I suspect the fella talking about such doses must have MDPV confused with meph or M1 or summat cos 300mg makes no sense at all - especially for first time use