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MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation
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pfeife
Bluelighter
Well, the color is definitely beige, it's much darker than caffeine freebase under daylight. I would describe it as clumpy as you said; when I press the powder with my fingertip or something like that, there are about 0,2-0,8 cm sized longish and thin ledges/cakes/tiles (dunno what english word fits the best... feel free to correct me, would be nice
) that gets cracks when I bent the bag backwards... 
This morning at 8:40 AM when I prepared a line of +- 0,5 mg 5 mg of peevee, there were some chunks that sticked to my small scale "pinchers" when I tried to break them.
Have taken 8 mg MDPV rectally + 1,6 ml of GBL 20 minutes ago after the 5 mg Peevee this morning. Onset was quite fast, about 6-7 minutes, the body load is great, my heart is racing and my mood strongly elevated, focus seemed to be already worse, was very fine this morning, furthermore I am a bit restless in my legs, strongest in my jaw (but no bruxism), good alertness.
This morning and till 1 PM the "jittering" was moderate, not stronger than yesterday though (no paranoia, more like a "natural"
coming down with some cardio-vascular issues like tachykardia...), GBL again helped a lot and I wouldn't dare to take such a dose again or more in a row without a benzo/GBL (250 mg phenazepam + propylene glycol is coming
)What do you think would be the best for coming down and as a sleeping aid? Promethazine? diphenhydramine? pipamperone (typical antipsychotic)? Risperidone (Atypical antipsychotic)? Or 12/25 mg atenolol (betablocker)? Have read some confusing shit concerning beta-blockers though (might even worse amphetamine tachykardia or hypertension, because stimulants allegedly affect the a-adreno-receptor... but still helped very well for cardio-vascular effects of Dimethylcathinone and 4-MMC).
Regards! Gotta get out now, sitting is uncomfortable!
. See if they're some psilo mushrooms, only found three yet, anhydrous about 250 mg!Ahh, to mention it, I had strong pain today again. I have chronical pain and have been taken 2-3 x 100 mg tilidine for 1,5 years (= about 2-3 x 20 mg morphine, only opioids and gabapentin helps, but there're bad side effects, looking forward to try pregabalin...)
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Shambles
Bluelight Crew
when I press the powder with my fingertip or something like that, there are about 0,2-0,8 cm sized longish and thin ledges/cakes/tiles (dunno what english word fits the best... feel free to correct me, would be nice
You know I can't think of an English word for that either but I know what you mean. Maybe we should borrow a word from your language cos we seem to have missed out on one here :D
That was how the beige batch has been for me - clumpy and kinda cakey as you describe. Sticks to itself more than the white or tan versions. I find it's not quite as potent as either of the other versions but I tend to binge and eyeball doses and it may be more or less dense than I'm used to or down to tolerance. I find it has less uncomfortable side-effects at reasonable doses but certainly still has them if you overdo it.
Plugging it is more intense than sniffing or oral dosing as you've noticed - can be easy to take just a bit too much and get a nasty shock. I would agree with you that having GBL and/or benzos on hand is almost essential. I find diazepam helps (clonazepam even more so) with the jitters and it lasts a lot longer than GBL which is quite handy if you're up for a while and redosing.
Not sure about sleep meds cos I'm way too fiendish with peevee and use however much I have before crashing. I generally use benzos (diazepam and/or temazepam usually, alprazolam or clonazepam if have them) to help with the bumpy landing.
Acid4Blood
Bluelighter
Shambles said:
Surely the word would be clumping! As in the powder clumps together when pressed!
Maybe binding would be a better word for it. Or maybe not....
Anyway, the PV i have at the moment clumps together like that when pressed.
Its kinda hard to make a stright line out of it too. (alot like 2CD) Infact 2CD & MDPV have pretty much the same consistancy/texture.
I actually contimplated taking 20mg peevee earlier (just to round off the 520mg in the bag to 500mg!
) Then I just said fuck-it. I'd only end up gettin stuck into the other half gram & going another sleepless 4 day bender. & theres no fucking way i'm gonna put myself through another one those NASTY fucking comedowns. It's probably the only substance I can't trust myself to do! Ah well... 
polidelaiko
Bluelighter
So I have some MDPV, but I dont know if its the "real" one or not, as I never tried it before. Its very white and powdery, and it doesnt smell much.. but vaporizing a few grains gives some sperm smelling smoke....
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
Spermy smoke = MDPV
Well, I'm sure there are other possibilities but peevee certainly smells of spunk. If it's white then presumably it's the white version of peevee. Still up for debate which version is "true" peevee, perhaps, but it sounds like you have what most folks would think of as white peevee. In my experience the white stuff is the most speedy, fiendish and with the "worst" ratio of side-effects to desired effects. It's still plenty fun though so enjoy - in moderation if you can
Well, I'm sure there are other possibilities but peevee certainly smells of spunk. If it's white then presumably it's the white version of peevee. Still up for debate which version is "true" peevee, perhaps, but it sounds like you have what most folks would think of as white peevee. In my experience the white stuff is the most speedy, fiendish and with the "worst" ratio of side-effects to desired effects. It's still plenty fun though so enjoy - in moderation if you can
polidelaiko
Bluelighter
^^ Yes, its speedy and quite fiendish I´m starting to realize (oh God help me from myself!!!!).
No effects on libido noted until now... does it happen too when vaporizing?
The truth is... I was expecting the tan MDPV....the sexual effects were the most appealing to me...
No effects on libido noted until now... does it happen too when vaporizing?
The truth is... I was expecting the tan MDPV....the sexual effects were the most appealing to me...
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
I get zero sexual effects on the white and few on the beige varieties really - more just speedy as hell on the white and zoned out on the beige. The tan is a whole other matter
Not sure whether vapourising definitely makes a difference but I've used various methods of administration (including vaping) all three and it's only the tan that has the erotomania for me![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Not sure whether vapourising definitely makes a difference but I've used various methods of administration (including vaping) all three and it's only the tan that has the erotomania for me
captain codshit
Bluelighter
^ Have defo heard the tan is around again. Might try track some down myself, last time the white made me a bit edgy and anxious. I think tbh speed is far better, sex on the comedown of speed is better anyway. However I have never done the tan, so cannot say for sure :D
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
Not heard of the original tan stuff being available anywhere again but hope I'm proved wrong on that :D
This beige stuff (lighter in tone than the tan and slightly more yellowish) that's everywhere at the moment is probably being described as tan by many as it ain't white and has a more subtle effect. Really hope I am proved wrong though
And sex on tan peevee is godly - nothing really compares. Maybe a combo of meth and geebee is as close as you'd get. Now that sounds like fun %)
This beige stuff (lighter in tone than the tan and slightly more yellowish) that's everywhere at the moment is probably being described as tan by many as it ain't white and has a more subtle effect. Really hope I am proved wrong though
And sex on tan peevee is godly - nothing really compares. Maybe a combo of meth and geebee is as close as you'd get. Now that sounds like fun %)
polidelaiko
Bluelighter
This may seem like a stupid question, but I never was in the position of having too much of a drug that has so much addictive properties (at least in me).. So i want to be prepared...
So how do you moderate your use, without throwing the rest of the stash away? Do you use a method like F&B so you can´t have access to your stash while binging?
So how do you moderate your use, without throwing the rest of the stash away? Do you use a method like F&B so you can´t have access to your stash while binging?
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
Now therein lies the rub with peevee 
It's cheap, legal, fiendish as fuckeryfuck and potent as hell - sooooo easy to take it too far. I must admit the only way I can realistically control my intake is to only buy enough that it will last me no more than a week or so of binging. The fiending - especially when smoked - almost makes crack seem mild in comparison
I find GBL and benzos take the edge off and I can doze for a while. If I really make the effort I can use one, the other, or ideally both to leave it alone for a while and get some decent sleep. If you don't have either to hand then even just some alcohol can help bring you down a bit.
Other than that maybe try to switch to sniffing or oral dosing rather than smoking - it lasts longer and is noticeably less fiendish. Or maybe give it to somebody trustworthy to hold on to if there is anybody. Many have ended up flushing the stuff if it really comes to it. I've never found the need and unless you have a really large amount then you've just got a very loooooong night or two (or three or four or more) nights to look forward too and a bumpy landing
I'd say a gram+ would maybe be in the dodgy zone but I find it's a surprisingy benign substance physically even though it doesn't feel like it at the time. Try to eat something, maybe some benzos or similar if available and try to distract yourself with something. Many folks end up reading everything on BL about peevee and writing long, complicated and confusing posts whilst on it - I know I certainly often do :D
It's cheap, legal, fiendish as fuckeryfuck and potent as hell - sooooo easy to take it too far. I must admit the only way I can realistically control my intake is to only buy enough that it will last me no more than a week or so of binging. The fiending - especially when smoked - almost makes crack seem mild in comparison
I find GBL and benzos take the edge off and I can doze for a while. If I really make the effort I can use one, the other, or ideally both to leave it alone for a while and get some decent sleep. If you don't have either to hand then even just some alcohol can help bring you down a bit.
Other than that maybe try to switch to sniffing or oral dosing rather than smoking - it lasts longer and is noticeably less fiendish. Or maybe give it to somebody trustworthy to hold on to if there is anybody. Many have ended up flushing the stuff if it really comes to it. I've never found the need and unless you have a really large amount then you've just got a very loooooong night or two (or three or four or more
) nights to look forward too and a bumpy landing I'd say a gram+ would maybe be in the dodgy zone but I find it's a surprisingy benign substance physically even though it doesn't feel like it at the time. Try to eat something, maybe some benzos or similar if available and try to distract yourself with something. Many folks end up reading everything on BL about peevee and writing long, complicated and confusing posts whilst on it - I know I certainly often do :D
Acid4Blood
Bluelighter
Shambles said:
So true! I think I've actually scared myself off ever doing MDPV again.
Maybe my first mistake was buying a whole gram. A gram really is too much to have lying around given it's rediculously scary fiendishness.
Most vendors sell it in 100mg bags, so that would probably be the best quantity to buy for a first-timer with an addictive personality. At least that way, after 10 doses you have no choice but to stop.
The comedown from overdoing PV beats the comedowns from daily-use of amp sulphate, mdma & methamphetamine hands down IMO. A high dose PV binge results in psychological & emotional torture.
I take my hat off to anyone who has good self-control with PV & who can use it moderatly.
Bella Figura
Bluelight Crew
It really is the fiendiest drug I've tried, I find sticking to one or two small doses in a day helps avoid a dreadful comedown, I'll still get one but it won't be as horrible.
I was doing it about once a week for a while before not being able to handle that anymore (timed perfectly with losing my baggie of pv). I've found the baggie again|) but haven't dosed in a couple of months now. I consider it occasionally but remember how awful I end up feeling afterwards and its suddenly not so appealing
I'm gonna stick to using it very rarely and small doses at that. Seeing as I'm trying to cut down on benzos, PV doesn't really help in that department.
I was doing it about once a week for a while before not being able to handle that anymore (timed perfectly with losing my baggie of pv). I've found the baggie again
|) but haven't dosed in a couple of months now. I consider it occasionally but remember how awful I end up feeling afterwards and its suddenly not so appealing I'm gonna stick to using it very rarely and small doses at that. Seeing as I'm trying to cut down on benzos, PV doesn't really help in that department.
I've been on this drug for nearly 2 weeks now had a 4-5 day break in between though, started off my first day doing only 2 small lines n slept the night, but this stuff is just so fiendish i've started snorting well over 10 lines a day now and big ones as well, over twice the size of the ones i started with, i don't have scales so can't weigh up my doses but the lines i'm doing now are roughly 2-3cm long and quite heavy on the top.
Is it normal to be able (and feel i need to) to snort so much more after using this drug for a while? I bought 0.5g which came around 30 hours ago and i've nearly gone through the whole bag i must have around 150mg-ish left and i've done it all to myself apart from sorting a friend out a couple of lines.
What kind of danger am i putting myself in by doing this? There's not a lot on the web about this drug i've read through most of the Megathread's 1 & 2 but haven't seen anything really outlining the risks involved in snorting this much, i know i'm only meant to do 5mg lines and not re-dose within like at least 3-4 hours of the previous dose, but it's so hard not to, and the lines i've been doing recently must be over 20mg (rough guess, could be more could be less). Bear in mind i haven't eaten properly since Wednesday all i've had is a 1 & 1/2 croissants but been drinking lots of water/juice. Haven't consumed any other drugs apart form MDPV in the past week either.
Any one here had experience with taking large amounts of MDPV in a short amount of time? Positive or negative? I'm expecting the come-down to be really bad but i can handle that, just worried about any damage i could be doing to my body. Sorry for the long post rambled on a bit i blame the PeeVee.
Is it normal to be able (and feel i need to) to snort so much more after using this drug for a while? I bought 0.5g which came around 30 hours ago and i've nearly gone through the whole bag i must have around 150mg-ish left and i've done it all to myself apart from sorting a friend out a couple of lines.
What kind of danger am i putting myself in by doing this? There's not a lot on the web about this drug i've read through most of the Megathread's 1 & 2 but haven't seen anything really outlining the risks involved in snorting this much, i know i'm only meant to do 5mg lines and not re-dose within like at least 3-4 hours of the previous dose, but it's so hard not to, and the lines i've been doing recently must be over 20mg (rough guess, could be more could be less). Bear in mind i haven't eaten properly since Wednesday all i've had is a 1 & 1/2 croissants but been drinking lots of water/juice. Haven't consumed any other drugs apart form MDPV in the past week either.
Any one here had experience with taking large amounts of MDPV in a short amount of time? Positive or negative? I'm expecting the come-down to be really bad but i can handle that, just worried about any damage i could be doing to my body. Sorry for the long post rambled on a bit i blame the PeeVee.
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
Hi, Ero - welcome to BL
Although there's not a huge amount of research (if any?) into the potential dangers of MDPV abuse the consensus seems to be that it's pretty safe in the grand scheme of things. People have gone on ridiculous binges - I read of somebody smoking 500mg in day once but that must of been with tolerance... or maybe I made it up on a peevee binge :D
Personally, I've gone through 2g in 10 days back to back and round the clock. No sleep and little food where involved and I was dosing orally, nasally, smoked and IV. And combining with a fair few other drugs. The only real issue I've noticed is the lengthy and drawn out comedown from hell. Physically I don't feel too bad (mainly sleep-deprived and malnourished as you'd expect) but mentally and emotionally it can be pretty crippling. I find it takes a good 7-10 days to recover from that kinda level of (ab)use but feel fine once the ol' brain has built up it's necessaries again.
Not saying it's a wise thing to do, but it seems surprisingly easy on the body even in hideous excess. Probably best to leave a good gap between binges too to allow for that recovery. Which reminds me, I really shouldn't be tempted to buy another gram cos it's not been long since the last megabinge. Have fun and happy landings
Although there's not a huge amount of research (if any?) into the potential dangers of MDPV abuse the consensus seems to be that it's pretty safe in the grand scheme of things. People have gone on ridiculous binges - I read of somebody smoking 500mg in day once but that must of been with tolerance... or maybe I made it up on a peevee binge :D
Personally, I've gone through 2g in 10 days back to back and round the clock. No sleep and little food where involved and I was dosing orally, nasally, smoked and IV. And combining with a fair few other drugs. The only real issue I've noticed is the lengthy and drawn out comedown from hell. Physically I don't feel too bad (mainly sleep-deprived and malnourished as you'd expect) but mentally and emotionally it can be pretty crippling. I find it takes a good 7-10 days to recover from that kinda level of (ab)use but feel fine once the ol' brain has built up it's necessaries again.
Not saying it's a wise thing to do, but it seems surprisingly easy on the body even in hideous excess. Probably best to leave a good gap between binges too to allow for that recovery. Which reminds me, I really shouldn't be tempted to buy another gram cos it's not been long since the last megabinge. Have fun and happy landings
Thanks for the reply Shambles, that makes me feel a little safer with my use knowing that i'm not the craziest mofo when it comes to dosing peevee on this board hehe.
Just 1 more thing i was wondering is how does MDPV affect the kidneys? I only have 1 kidney due to my other getting removed when i was a child because it wasn't working properly. I've done loads of other drugs similar to MDPV like speed a few days in a row, crazy stuff like 20 pills in a night, doing pills 2 days in a row and MDMA etc.
My kidney's been fine although i'll admit i find it hard to pee on any kind of stimulants be it MDPV, MDMA, speed, but pills have made my organs feel a lot worse than MDPV has the morning after. Though i do notice pains in my kidney when i'm on/coming-down from MDPV.
I'm thinking of going to the doctors to get my kidney checked up does anyone know if this is possible to get a test on my kidney at the doctors? I just want to make sure i'm not doing an irreversible damage to it, seeing as i only have the 1. I've only been into hard drugs for the past 4 and a bit years from the age of 15-19 so i don't think i could have caused much damage to my kidney in that time although i'll admit i have battered every drug i've come across (except ofcourse regretamine) I think it's worth getting my kidney checked out though if thats actually possible? Sorry if i've been repeating myself again still pretty wasted from my peevee binge which ends tomorrow.
Just 1 more thing i was wondering is how does MDPV affect the kidneys? I only have 1 kidney due to my other getting removed when i was a child because it wasn't working properly. I've done loads of other drugs similar to MDPV like speed a few days in a row, crazy stuff like 20 pills in a night, doing pills 2 days in a row and MDMA etc.
My kidney's been fine although i'll admit i find it hard to pee on any kind of stimulants be it MDPV, MDMA, speed, but pills have made my organs feel a lot worse than MDPV has the morning after. Though i do notice pains in my kidney when i'm on/coming-down from MDPV.
I'm thinking of going to the doctors to get my kidney checked up does anyone know if this is possible to get a test on my kidney at the doctors? I just want to make sure i'm not doing an irreversible damage to it, seeing as i only have the 1. I've only been into hard drugs for the past 4 and a bit years from the age of 15-19 so i don't think i could have caused much damage to my kidney in that time although i'll admit i have battered every drug i've come across (except ofcourse regretamine) I think it's worth getting my kidney checked out though if thats actually possible? Sorry if i've been repeating myself again still pretty wasted from my peevee binge which ends tomorrow.
Acid4Blood
Bluelighter
lol! You mean you THINK you can handle that!
Don't worry about your body. PV is very easy on the body.
The psychological/mental/emotional comedown from high dose MDPV use is by far the worst comedown I have ever experienced. To quote myself.....
I recently did 480mg in ~3 days & it took ~4 days to feel anywhere near normal again. Thats 4 days of emotional hell!
Ero90 - I strongly advise you to stop dosing so high & so frequently ASAP. The comedown you are inevitably going to face, I would not wish on my worst enemy!
Hope you take my advice on board & best of luck with the comedown.
Shambles
Bluelight Crew
I really don't know about any risks to the kidneys but it's probably not their favourite thing for you to do with your time - especially if it's just the one lil lonesome kidney doing all the work. I can't say I've noticed any kidney pain whereas with speed I'd be feeling like I'd donated them without anaesthetic after a weeklong binge.
The main kidneyesque problem I've noted is that I find it hard to drink any liquids (can only sip and even then have to force myself) when on it. Combined with the malnourishment that's not such a good thing but a good flushing out with plenty of water and fruit juice on the comedown seems to deal with that. At least I hope it has
If you are concerned then I'm sure you can ask your doctor for tests. I suspect it may be the peevee talking to an extent cos I often develop lil concerns and paranoias when binging on the stuff myself. See how you feel when you've come down, slept, eaten and rehydrated properly. I don't think you need to be worrying about it but in your semi-kidneyed situation it's probably better safer than sorrier. I would advise waiting till you've recovered before going to your doctor and asking for tests cos you've been hammering exotic and obscure stims though. I'm pretty sure you'll be fine but am obviously not a doctor.
PS: I'll echo DMT here - good luck with that comedown and don't be surprised if you still feel crappy for a good week or so afterwards. All will be well though
PPS: My top tip for mitigating the inevitable crash is to switch from nasal to oral dosing for the final landing approach. The extended duration seems to make it (slightly) smoother. Helps massively if you have access to benzos to ease the jitters and anxiety too
The main kidneyesque problem I've noted is that I find it hard to drink any liquids (can only sip and even then have to force myself) when on it. Combined with the malnourishment that's not such a good thing but a good flushing out with plenty of water and fruit juice on the comedown seems to deal with that. At least I hope it has
If you are concerned then I'm sure you can ask your doctor for tests. I suspect it may be the peevee talking to an extent cos I often develop lil concerns and paranoias when binging on the stuff myself. See how you feel when you've come down, slept, eaten and rehydrated properly. I don't think you need to be worrying about it but in your semi-kidneyed situation it's probably better safer than sorrier. I would advise waiting till you've recovered before going to your doctor and asking for tests cos you've been hammering exotic and obscure stims though. I'm pretty sure you'll be fine but am obviously not a doctor.
PS: I'll echo DMT here - good luck with that comedown and don't be surprised if you still feel crappy for a good week or so afterwards. All will be well though
PPS: My top tip for mitigating the inevitable crash is to switch from nasal to oral dosing for the final landing approach. The extended duration seems to make it (slightly) smoother. Helps massively if you have access to benzos to ease the jitters and anxiety too
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