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Somewhat-damaged said:
Everything he said is true. Why wont people believe the facts about sniffer dogs?

They have an INCREDIBLE sense of smell and will be able to smell whatever the fuck you have in your pocket, no matter how you wrap it. It doesn't mean they will catch you because there are other variables, but they certainly can..

Everyone keeps looking for alternative ways or doubting what people are saying about this. If you want to personally find out, be my guest but don't say BL didn't warn you.

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Said exactly what I would have. If people can't take the truth it's their loss.

Just because you or your mate didn't get caught doesn't mean that whatever you did stopped the dog from detecting the substance, it just means you didn't get caught.

And Sustanon, I believe somewhat was referring to chemicals that dogs are trained to detect.
 
All this cracking down on festivals is a little bit worrying. Rather than the average person being able to responsibly use what they have brought with them over the whole duration of the festival, some may be inclined to either use all the product before walking in the gate, or at the first sight of a sniffer dog.

I can see this causing overdosing, especially with the Pipez and PMA pills that have been going around as of late.
 
Lovegrud said:
^^

*suss look* >_<
Well I will continue living in my 'lies' but 41 posts and your a "Bluelighter"? and your trying to dismiss everyone's methods?

I sense something fishy with you pal.
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I can also personally vouch for mr turbo, he has very good knowledge and experience
 
still better to take the precautions. Sure it might not stop the dog smelling it, but I sure doesnt help it.
 
Yeah, by all means take the necessary precautions...
But don't out rule the fact that they can still smell it. They will probably go for the more prominent odour.

And i was talking about the chemicals that they were trained to smell sustanon, why else would you be worried about them? :P
 
Somewhat-damaged said:
Yeah, by all means take the necessary precautions...
But don't out rule the fact that they can still smell it. They will probably go for the more prominent odour.

And i was talking about the chemicals that they were trained to smell sustanon, why else would you be worried about them? :P
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Because RCs are just as illegal as any other drugs:p lol

Pretty sure there are dogs trained to sniff out rare substances altho there not very common at all. Who knows what type of trained dog u mite encounter.
 
Somewhat-damaged said:
They will probably go for the more prominent odour.
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That's a key sentence there though. I don't think (well hope not) anyone thinks their 'technique' is perfect - undetectable. But if it were me, all bagged up, next to someone with them floating around in their pockets. Which one would the doggie more then likely go for?
 
shibada123 said:
Im guessing the dogs would sniff out some luey mixed with coka-cola or some other drink?

If stoped kindly ask a friend, who will keep walking into the event, to 'hold your drink' while the questioning/pat-down occurs and say something along the lines of im wearing the same clothes from last nights smoke up... rekon that would work?
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Thats a pretty good idea actually but that wouldnt really work if ur goin into an event. Dont think u can carry drinks in with u but correct me if im wrong i dont go to many festivals here in AU. Thats the way it usually works in EU.
 
tyrael said:
But if it were me, all bagged up, next to someone with them floating around in their pockets. Which one would the doggie more then likely go for?
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The "perfect" plan, as long as you have someone you know has loose drugs in their pocket beside you.

But a serious response I can't give you. Does it make any difference to how easily a dog can detect pocketed drugs if they are bagged or loose? I can't say. Just because there is less smell I can notice is that true of drug dogs? Even if there is a quantifiable difference does it mean you are less likely detected with bagged than not if the dog is slightly closer to your pocket than the loosey, or the wind changes?

These are probably things that have been studied in the course of sniffer dog usage history but I don't know where you'd find such info. Even then it could be different for every dog, handler and circumstances combo you can can come up with.

Got drugs? Avoid the dogs.
 
shibada123 said:
I forgot to ask, would the effects/strengh be the same if you drank the same ammount at the start of the day compared to the end of the day??
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That depends on how stable ur compound is. There are quite a few substances that degrade in liquid. I dont think it really would effect the strength of say pingas or gas if it stayed in there for a few days even. We used to pour a few grams of gas into a 2 Liter bottle and sip on it all nite.

Worked like a charm. Then we realized that we dont have to hide anything anymore as the clubs we went to in EU were full of pill poppers and speed freaks. Everyone was rackin up lines at the table and even if u walked past they offer u sum for free even if they dont know u. Was awesome back in the days(:

The cops were paid off, the bouncers were off there faces and the bartender chicks too lol
 
shtonkalot said:
The "perfect" plan, as long as you have someone you know has loose drugs in their pocket beside you.

But a serious response I can't give you. Does it make any difference to how easily a dog can detect pocketed drugs if they are bagged or loose? I can't say. Just because there is less smell I can notice is that true of drug dogs? Even if there is a quantifiable difference does it mean you are less likely detected with bagged than not if the dog is slightly closer to your pocket than the loosey, or the wind changes?

These are probably things that have been studied in the course of sniffer dog usage history but I don't know where you'd find such info. Even then it could be different for every dog, handler and circumstances combo you can can come up with.

Got drugs? Avoid the dogs.
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To be honest it doesnt matter if its bagged up or not. No matter what u do they will smell it. The people that say that dogs cant smell above ur hips is pretty silly. These dogs are very well trained and they smell much much better than any humans. I can smell a baggie of green or speed in my mates pocket who is next to me, what makes u guys think that they wouldnt smell it?

Not worth risking it. Go by car, drop a bit then go in then come bak out to drop more. Donno how it works are u even allowed out without havin to pay entry fee again?
 
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Yeah, I heard somewhere, even if you bag up your drugs multiple times (air-tight). The odour molecules will over time still pass through the material you've used to store the drugs.
 
puckboy said:
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Yeah, I heard somewhere, even if you bag up your drugs multiple times (air-tight). The odour molecules will over time still pass through the material you've used to store the drugs.
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You heard right. Dog's have been known to smell even through 4-inch thick steel. The best method to avoid detection is bad your substances as close as possible to when you will be lining up for the event.
 
From what Organic Chemistry has taught me in University.....

Smell given off does go through plastics. but plastics such as Teflon, the carbon bonding are strong enough to literally stop any sort of odour escaping.

Hence why acids, i.e hydrochloric acid is stored in Teflon containers. Acid in normal plastic bottles, after a few minutes you will be able to smell it from the outside.


I have had pills airtight in 10 layers of latex (condom) as an experimental gain, within 10minutes i would be able to smell it as if there weren't in a condom.


Do your research properly, get some Teflon.




Other methods also include

1. Coating bags with a several layers of Candle Wax
2. Roll on sunscreen bottle, pop off the ball, empty the liquid, put the goods in, fill it up with the liquid, put the ball and cap back on.


most effective method would be just to have it inside the human body. find a girl to put it up her..




note. the issue with having "pill stuff" on your fingers isnt an issue, over time (6 hours) the free-flowing molecules indefinitely would suspense off what ever its on and dispense through the air.
E.g if you have pill stuff on your fingers, and you happen to touch things like your self and are paranoid of it being a reason to be sniffed by a dog then you shouldnt worry about it after at-least 6 hours.




also this a good read


http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/node/38783

"the dogs have an accuracy rate of about 25-30%"
only 1.38% of all indications led to a dog finding a ‘deemed supply’ quantity of a drug.
The successful prosecutions for supply represent 0.19% of all drug detection dog indications for the review period.” That’s 1 in every 526 positive sniffs.

yet again, please do your research.
 
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most effective method would be just to have it inside the human body. find a girl to put it up her..
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This. And fellas, if you're really paranoid, get over how "gay" it is and just shelve it. Baggie, glad-wrap, kinder-surprise egg, condom. Suck it up, you can get arrested and I'll enjoy rolling at my concert thanks.
 
^^^ Man i have tears in my eyes from laughing. Watched most of the Chasers episodes but must have missed that one. Thanks for making my afternoon Andy....classic one!!!
 
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