Glass Syringe

[ratgirldjh]

LOL - i was imagining if you were getting ready to shoot up and your nice syringe full of goodies suddenly rolled over and fell on the tile floor - whoops!!! or you fumbled and accidently dropped it

that said my grandmother actually had one of these glass syringes and used to use it to inject her allergy meds in her thigh. she even had one of those things where you could lock it back and then hit a button and it would stick the needle in - kind of like the things you use to stick your fingers to test blood sugar - but it was built in... i wonder what happened to it after she died... it was pretty small and she only used sterile meds in glass vials and i don't remember her cleaning it ever - and she used the same needles over and over... she had a lot of bruises on her legs though... and she always used it on the bed just in case she dropped it...

 

[Carsick]

Not illegal in the UK.

 

[Thou]

I have a bit of extra cash and I'm thinking about splurging on a sweet rig. You know, pulp fiction style glass syringe.

I like the idea, I'm a sucker for flashy lab equipment.

Just curious how you plan on sterilizing your newfound cohort. I'm thinking a moderately priced pressure cooker would be a wise investment. Seems a bit of the negative feedback that's accumulated in this thread mainly hovers around the practice of sterility. Are you a bit of a neat freak? Seems to me the only way this would work would be a sound sterility practice.

 

[phr]

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Bleach works. But unless you shoot very infrequently(I'm thinking once or twice a week), the aesthetic value wouldn't be worth the extra effort compared to single use syringes. That's just me though.

 

[ratgirldjh]

yes if you were a several times a day user all that cleaning, etc. would get to be very tiresome... also increases the odds that you might drop the syringe :D

my bet is that it would be fun for a while then you would put it away and use the disposable ones - much sharper and cleaner and better for your arms in the long run.

but you could always save it for special occasions

 

[OntarioGuy]

I say get one use insulin syringes,and use the money for dope.This whole glass syringe thing doesn't really sound like a good idea if you shoot several times a day like your average IV opiate addict.I wouldn't like the idea of having to clean my old blood with bleach and water,when I could just use a nice sharp brand new disposable.

 

[svacheme3]

Let's not kid ourselves by claiming people who re-use *their own* rigs every do any cleaning besides drawing/squirting water 1-2 times.

The odds of getting an infection from a water rinsed rig are so insignificant most of us can go our whole injecting career without it happening, so hardly anyone bothers to be more thorough. Sharing rigs is another story.

 

[Grumpy_Eel]

I agree with the poster above me, the chance of getting an infection or some weird disease would probably be very slim even with infrequent cleaning with bleach or boiling.

Now i wouldnt use it for 6 months without cleaning it, but every 2-3 days bleach it out, maybe boil it every once and a while you'd probably be fine. Unless you are that .0001% person who ends up a case study, but that could be any of us really.

That being said, that glass syringe is so freakin cool, if i thought i could get it and some 31g tips, and get it sent to me at my college post office box (ha) Id totally get one on pay day.

 

[cumputer]

Wow. So many responses, so little answers.

If I wanted opinions on whether or not this was a good idea, I'd say "is this a good idea?". Please save your thoughts on sterile technique for after your answer to the question.

I've been IVing for almost a year. I use the BD 1cc 31 guage short needle syringes. I IV maybe 3-4 times a day, and I usually use the same rig maybe 5-10 times (until it gets too dull). After I'm done with a shot, I run water through my rigs a couple times and call it good. I've never got an infection and I've only got cotton fever once (boiled the fuck out of like 30 cottons because I was desperate). I don't think that I would have very many problems with a glass rig if I boiled it every couple days and changed the tip every day (if you took the time to go to the site, you'd notice that you can only buy a hundred of them at a time. I won't be running out anytime soon).

The only thing that worries me is the rubber on the plunger wearing out (I shoot fent patches pretty often and I noticed that vinegar tends to eat away at the rubber). I don't plan on using this thing exclusively, but I do want a little zipper pouch kit thing like john travolta had (he's my hero). I'd probably use it when I was at home, and for all other occasions I'd just just disposable insulin syringes. I mainly IV ms contins, dilaudid, oxycontin, and fent patches. If I was lucky enough to have access to heroin, I'd probably use 1/2cc rigs as well. I don't, though, so I'm stuck cooking the fuck out of morphine goo a lot and using such a small rig just isn't an option. I think having a larger rig would really help the process.

So, in conclusion, I'm going to reiterate my original questions (since I didn't have much luck the first time).

1. Does the first website that sells the rigs sell to individuals?

2. Are all luer-locks the same? Does it matter that the syringe is made by Popper and the tips are made by BD? Are the tips going to fit the rig?


edit: Also, are you guys serious with the whole price thing? All together with shipping I'm looking at maybe 50 bucks. I don't think that's all that much when you consider how much easier it's going to make cooking ms contins. I probably waste 50 bucks worth of junk every month trying to boil off extra water so I can fit my shot in a 1cc syringe.

I should probably also mention that I have a few 3cc and 5cc syringes laying around, but all the tips I have for them are larger than 26g (too squeamish to use such a large point, being a former needle-phobe), so getting some tips wouldn't be a bad idea glass rig or not.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

CH, I use 2cc syringes as standard for ketamine.

I know that ketamine vials typically come in concentrations that may lend people to needing more than a 1CC syringe, however, couldn't you crystallize one vial and mix it into another to create a twice as potent solution? Wouldn't that be the easiest way to create a solution usable with a 1CC rig?

Personally I just have pure crystals, not a vial. However when I use sterile water to create a solution, I only need 10-20 units and it works just fine.

I believe it's completely up to the person but you are sounding like a person should never need more than a 1/2 cc rig when that is horribly wrong.

Everyone is different man.

No, I'm not saying 1/2CC is efficient for everyone/everything. It depends on what you're shooting, and how much of it.

I don't know what most people shoot now adays, but everything I've tried shooting, I have always fit in less than 50 units (even when I'm combining more than one thing).

If you're injecting pills, or large quantities of opiates, or rather dilute ampules, it is very easy to need a multiple CC syringe.

If I just used 1/2cc I physically couldn't fit enough k in to do anything.

There's more than enough K that would fit in 1/2CC if you were making your own solutions, but yes, if you're using ampules without altering the contents of it at all (which is probably the easiest and safest thing to do - which is probably what I would do if I had ampules which I don't), then I can easily see how you would need more than 1/2 CC.

LOL - i was imagining if you were getting ready to shoot up and your nice syringe full of goodies suddenly rolled over and fell on the tile floor - whoops!!! or you fumbled and accidently dropped it

When that does happen once in a blue moon and you are using a disposable plastic syringe - you will be thankful as it'll still be unbroken.

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Bleach works. But unless you shoot very infrequently(I'm thinking once or twice a week), the aesthetic value wouldn't be worth the extra effort compared to single use syringes. That's just me though.

The extra step of bleaching a syringe before using it is kind of annoying IMO, it's a lot easier just to get a new needle out IMO as well.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Let's not kid ourselves by claiming people who re-use *their own* rigs every do any cleaning besides drawing/squirting water 1-2 times.

The odds of getting an infection from a water rinsed rig are so insignificant most of us can go our whole injecting career without it happening, so hardly anyone bothers to be more thorough. Sharing rigs is another story.

Some people will use bleach to clean out a used rig. I am glad I never have to re-use rigs anymore but if I absolutely had to, water alone wouldn't be sufficient in my eyes.

You are right though, most people probably just use water to flush it out.

I've been IVing for almost a year. I use the BD 1cc 31 guage short needle syringes. I IV maybe 3-4 times a day, and I usually use the same rig maybe 5-10 times (until it gets too dull). After I'm done with a shot, I run water through my rigs a couple times and call it good. I've never got an infection and I've only got cotton fever once (boiled the fuck out of like 30 cottons because I was desperate). I don't think that I would have very many problems with a glass rig if I boiled it every couple days and changed the tip every day (if you took the time to go to the site, you'd notice that you can only buy a hundred of them at a time. I won't be running out anytime soon).

It's not a good idea to re-use a syringe. If you can get as many tips as you need, it would be better to buy the glass syringe and use a new tip every time. Re-using a needle increases the likelihood it will break off inside of you, and it worsens track marks (they will be gnarlier looking and will last longer) not to mention the dulled tip will do extra vein damage than a new needle would have.

As for "is it a good idea" - what you're already doing isn't a good idea. So what do you want me to tell you? It's not a good idea but you're already not doing what I think to be a "good idea" so why not?

The only thing that worries me is the rubber on the plunger wearing out (I shoot fent patches pretty often and I noticed that vinegar tends to eat away at the rubber). I don't plan on using this thing exclusively, but I do want a little zipper pouch kit thing like john travolta had (he's my hero). I'd probably use it when I was at home, and for all other occasions I'd just just disposable insulin syringes. I mainly IV ms contins, dilaudid, oxycontin, and fent patches. If I was lucky enough to have access to heroin, I'd probably use 1/2cc rigs as well. I don't, though, so I'm stuck cooking the fuck out of morphine goo a lot and using such a small rig just isn't an option. I think having a larger rig would really help the process.

I wouldn't be shooting any of these without a micron filter. At least, not more than once. Plus, I would never shoot fentanyl patches, that's just me.

1. Does the first website that sells the rigs sell to individuals?

Who knows? E-mail the site and see what they say. Only they can tell you for sure.

2. Are all luer-locks the same? Does it matter that the syringe is made by Popper and the tips are made by BD? Are the tips going to fit the rig?

This I do not know, and I'll ask around to see if people can help you out.

edit: Also, are you guys serious with the whole price thing? All together with shipping I'm looking at maybe 50 bucks. I don't think that's all that much when you consider how much easier it's going to make cooking ms contins. I probably waste 50 bucks worth of junk every month trying to boil off extra water so I can fit my shot in a 1cc syringe.

I don't know where you live, but if you can visit a needle exchange, doing that would be the best thing price-wise.

What I want to stress the most is that you should be using a new needle every time. You can re-use reusable syringes if you use a new needle tip every time - but re-using a needle tip even once does extra damage to your body that you don't need to be doing.

Plus, needles can become clogged with all sorts of things (especially when shooting pills). So, overall, it would be the best idea to be able to acquire several hundred disposable needles at a time. Failing this, getting several hundred needle tips and a re-usable syringe would be the next best idea. Failing this, reusing needle tips only twice or three times within a day - at most - shouldn't be "too bad" but trust me when I say this that finding a way to only have to use a needle tip once will be the best option for you.

I am sorry I don't know if the tips will fit on the luer lock or not, I only have experience with disposable syringes.

What state do you live in?

 

[Grumpy_Eel]

The only thing that worries me is the rubber on the plunger wearing out (I shoot fent patches pretty often and I noticed that vinegar tends to eat away at the rubber)

What kind of fent patches do you get? The gel or non gel. I was gonna say rubbing alcohol works very well for the gel ones, but since you said vinegar im assuming you meant the non gel. Just thought id throw out my fent patch shooting method.

For gel patches

1. Squeeze gel in spoon
2. Get some boiling or hot water
3. draw up 30 units of rubbing alcohol then 70 of hot water
4. Squirt on gel
5. Mix
6. Draws up clear

Dont even need heat really, maybe just a smidge, but it draws up completely doesnt leave anything there.

As for the glass syringe, ill email the company if you dont, Im quite interested in this as well. But that website you linked too, they make 31g luers? I thought they only made like 22s and stuff. If theyd work Id like one.

 

[ranunky]

if i was a junkie and i had some extra cash i'd be spending it on DRUGS

 

[Carsick]

I know that ketamine vials typically come in concentrations that may lend people to needing more than a 1CC syringe, however, couldn't you crystallize one vial and mix it into another to create a twice as potent solution? Wouldn't that be the easiest way to create a solution usable with a 1CC rig?

Personally I just have pure crystals, not a vial. However when I use sterile water to create a solution, I only need 10-20 units and it works just fine.

I use pure crystals too and if I try to fit a single dose into a 1cc it gums up the moment the solution starts to cool down and some of the k starts to come out of solution.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I use pure crystals too and if I try to fit a single dose into a 1cc it gums up the moment the solution starts to cool down and some of the k starts to come out of solution.

Hm..maybe you just have a large tolerance.

I seem to be very sensitive to all psychedelics.

 

[Blissful Thinking]

Syringes are don't need to be cool. They need to be effective.
If you really must "splurge" on drug paraphernalia, put your money it some nice glass for smoking, or a bullet for your powder of something...but you shouldn't want to have a "cool" syringe, and it not be as functional as something uncool, right?

 

[Atlien3]

anything more than 20 units per .1 oh dope is taking away from the rush, and even less with coke, about 10-15 is all i use

 

[Captain.Heroin]

anything more than 20 units per .1 oh dope is taking away from the rush, and even less with coke, about 10-15 is all i use

I don't think using more water "takes away" from the rush at all, but I know what you're saying because I only need to use 10-20 units for anything to inject it. I've never come across anything which needed a lot of water to prepare (other than the one Dormicum tablet I have shot).

 

[OntarioGuy]

wow,re-use a rig until it gets too dull?I feel bad for you guys,I really do,I get boxes of needles for free,I always use a brand new one,and I always will.

To bad the States aren't like Canada.

 

[Carsick]

UK is like that too.

 

[pinkestar]

I don't know what some of you all shoot, but 1cc has always been way too much volume for my needs. Even if you're trying to combine 2 substances in a shot, I would only need < 30 units for such a thing, and would still prefer 1/2 CC syringes. However, 1CC are still usable, even when you're using less than 20 units of it on average.

Well, if you get sterile made for iv drugs they tend to be in small concentrations. 2mg dilaudid in 1cc...i'd much prefer to do a bigger shot at once.