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☠ WARNING ☠ Warning: Mislabeled Batch of 2C-B-Fly That Has Caused Deaths

Heres the thing,

Even if the dude was doing the synthesis perfectly, he very well could have had a bad ingredient in the process. I dont know how the hell to make it, and aint gonna bother to look, nor discuss it here.

But perhaps a particular item was really old on the shelf out there, or maybe it was mislabeled. All it would take it one wrong step, and a possible decayed ingredient, to possibly cause something freaky to happen.

Or maybe somebody didnt wash his hands or something, hell if I know.

But to me it just cant be a straight pure drug. Unless its something that everybody has an allergy to that we didn't know about. Could be...
 
No, I was talking about the story in PiHKAL about some people who took 100 mg of DOB thinking it was 100 mg of MDA.

Also, 2cbfly is still up on that website as of just a few minutes ago.
 
Have there been an abnormal amount of adverse reactions to their other products, or is it limited to the 2c-b-fly??
 
Rectify said:
This mystery substance could even to turn out to be in fact 2cbfly as advertised, but if that is the case, then the fly's are much more poisonous than the dragonfly's indeed.
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I kind of doubt that. Me and a lot of people I know had 2c-b-fly years back and we never had anything remotely like this occur.
 
Their products always seemed to be somewhat hit or miss. The DPT they sold was widely regarded, at least from what I've read, as the best on the market. Meanwhile, I've heard a number of complaints about the quality of their Etaqualone, which I haven't tried, as well as their aMT, which I have tried and consider to be of outstanding purity. That said, prior to this incident I've never read any reports suggesting that anything in their catalogue was at all toxic, only weak or benignly impure.
 
The quality of etaqualone was fine. Etaqualone just isn't a very potent substance. The effects are subtle and many people may not appreciate them.
 
nuke,

Did you have 2cb-fly (saturated outer furan wings) or 2cb-dragonfly (unsaturated outer furan wings) years ago?
 
ack, this is terrible...but almost ineveitable as the path from embryo to mass consumption gets shorter and shorter. The thing is, as others have pointed out, there is only a handful of substances that are toxic in the amounts that would be present in a dirty synthesis and from my knowledge of the synthetic pathways there just isnt anything like this involved. I just dont see this as a likely scenario...it seems it has to be some relatively unexplored CNS active drug with a terrible profile, something likely on the route to 2c-b-fly. The 3C aint gonna happen accidentally, but could be the result of miscommunication with the manufacturer. Im gonna *guess* it has something to do with one of the furan rings saturation, whether it be "dragonfly" or even hemifly or the like. I am currently way out of the country, but friends are currently trying to contact Monte or Nichols to try and gleam some more toxicological information. Im glad the info has gotten out there fast, this has the potential to be even more disastrous. Two deaths alone is completely awful :(
 
Rectify said:
nuke,

Did you have 2cb-fly (saturated outer furan wings) or 2cb-dragonfly (unsaturated outer furan wings) years ago?
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2c-b-fly, with the saturated tetrahydrofuranyl rings. The compound had been synthesized at the time instead of the unsaturated version because there were concerns about carcinogenicity with benzofuran systems. F&B had even IM'd himself with 8mg of what I'm pretty sure was the same batch.
 
I was contacted by someone who said that they knew someone who died of this in california. They've contacted erowid as well and will help them confirm the death with a police and coroner's report.
 
I dont think you guys should be posting the name of the vendor here so openly. I feel if you don't know where this is coming from, you shouldn't be seeking where it's from.
 
People, please stop talking about the vendor. "2c-b-fly", "batch B1" should be good enough for anyone concerned to know which batch is concerned. Thanks.
 
I doubt they're going to allow an influx of accounts because of a death. I doubt anyone has anything to worry about.

Damien said:
People, please stop talking about the vendor. "2c-b-fly", "batch B1" should be good enough for anyone concerned to know which batch is concerned. Thanks.
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It's *not on BL* :\ I do realize this is BL though but perhaps you guys should coordinate with those other guys.
 
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The site concerned was still up last I saw (although haven't checked in the last few hours) so still counts as a souce in my book. It's blindingly obvious to anyone concerned who reads about this issue who the vendor is without having to name them and maybe send those who don't know there to see what else they may have to offer. If the site is now down then it doesn't matter anyway cos those who are involved will know without naming the vendor.
 
Roger&Me said:
And with this thread....

I am personally finished with consuming random powders from online vendors.

I'll stick to eating doses of LSD procured through friends and family.
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Do you mean LSD that's been tasted/tested first?

This "2C-B-fly": someone could have laid an active overdose on blotter BEFORE TESTING THE SUBSTANCE, and sold it to your friend without warning them, before hearing the news of this guy's death.
 
Coolio said:
Do you mean LSD that's been tasted/tested first?
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Yep, and my LSD sources just don't get DOx. They know what they are buying, they eat hits out of all the batches they buy, and they're very honest, loving and caring people so they would never sell me DOx. :)
 
Roger, about your comment a few pages back about how this thread made you not want to consume any more of these grey market powders; I agree in a way. I find I'm only comfortable with vendors who seem to have their shit together. The fly-by-night ones I'm really sketchy about.

There are things on the grey market that I am very grateful to have experienced. 2C-T-2 is one of these. I think there are ways to reduce the risk of harm from these chemicals. Only buy from reputable, professional sources, and marquis when you get them. Keep some benzos on hand, and all is likely going to be fine. I have never had any toxic reactions from grey market chemicals.

Also, there is one very professional source that certifies their products with GC/MS testing. No, I'm not going to tell or hint at where to find them. I'm just letting it be known that there are good, smart business people out there. :)
 
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