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The Big & Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread - Second Iteration

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Years ago I had a friend who owned a nursery plant morning glory seeds all over the back fence. Then we forgot about it. Come that Dec we were throwing a football and it landed by the fence to which he then said "oh, these are those vines I planted". They were at the early seedling stage. Soft and mushy. I took a handful, about 300 mushed seeds. They were as soft as mashed potatos. This was 5:00 PM that day. About 2 hours after eating them I was treated to a very very strong LSA trip for the rest of the night. I mean I was experienced with seeds but this was strong. No nausea, no bad effects and very vivid colorful images while sitting in the dark. At one point I had to turn on the light. That was my only experience of that kind. I have eaten some wild ones right off the vine and only had mild trips.
 
thenightwatch said:
If the question is whether harvesting early will lead to more potent seeds, then there is no answer at the moment, and you should let us know how your experiments turn out!
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So the immature white seeds that I picked have mold growing on them! The lack of a developed outside probably allowed that to happen. So the immature seeds might still have LSA in them... but they don't store well.

(I'm just going to wait for the seed pods to develop. There are so many of them! I have two plants, I counted ~40 seed pods (which may contain multiple seeds each) on the smaller plant. The larger plant is like 3-4x bigger and takes up a ton of space on the fence, and has been creating a shitload of flowers. I can only imagine how many seed pods it has...)
 
Swirl 'em up in a bottle? In with a couple of gulps?. Crushed, so that the "taste of death" doesn't come up by chewing the nasty soap-llke seed pulp. The come up is quite good i think. And it had a message for me, in radio. Which lasted for the next day.
 
tresspasser said:
What happens if overdose?
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I suspect you'd have to be taken ridiculous quantities to overdose, but vasoconstriction can be an issue at higher doses. Something to counteract this may be a good idea (although I've never had a problem with it even on high doses of HBWR). Not sure what would work best for that so maybe get some other responses or look up vasodilators to see if anything sounds good :)
 
Problems with morning glory seeds

Okay, so I hope I'm following the forum guidelines by posting this here...I used the search engine for morning glory seeds, but most of the post were extremely outdated and I could not post a reply. The other posters were asked to post their threads in the psychedelic column, so that is what I am doing.

I have generally looked down on the morning glory experience, for several reasons. Mainly, because I'm a regular user of LSD and am perfectly content with its superior trip experiences. However, as many of you know, it's not always available.

I looked into the morning glory extraction method - using Petroleum Ether - but the P.E. seems to be damn hard to come by. I've read many reports of users saying that using cold water to extract the LSA from the seeds works more than sufficiently. I have tried this method four times, however, and to no avail. This is what I have done:

1) Grind up 600 untreated morning glory seeds into very, very fine powder
2) Poured the powder into cold, non-distilled bottle of water
3) Let sit for three days, shaking frequently
4) Filter the water through filter paper and then drinking it

The only effect I have ever achieved from this method is extreme sleepiness and a nausea.

Does anyone know why I am having no luck with this? Despite my reluctance towards morning glory seeds, many have told me that a very good trip CAN be achieved. Is it because I am not using distilled water (is the chlorine in the tap water destroying the chemicals?)

Sorry if I misplaced this question, and thanks in advance for your help.
 
never use tap water, chlorine will kill the LSAs, especially over the course of a 3 days.

Try just eating the seeds. Grind them up and parachute them.
 
Well another method I tried was grinding them into power, putting the powder over apple sauce, and then eating the apple sauce. Was also 600 seeds and I got the same effect I described earlier.
 
That technique should have had you tripping for sure. What kind of MG seeds were you using, and what was your diet like prior to the dosing? Heavenly Blues are usually the most potent. If HBWR are available, try those?
 
nearjat said:
Agreed on both points.

HBWR (15 seeds) got me having no idea what to do with myself because I loved everything so much and felt like I was being hugged by the universe.
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i read in clearwhitelight 200 HBWR would be something like a 5.000ug LSD, although i am not sure one can compare linearly like this, but a heavy LSD dose is about 400ug, so you get the figure... erowid says LD50 (lethal dose for 50% of tested animals) would be something around 12.000ug of LSD. you can't say this is the same LD50 for HBWR since we are comparing related but still different compounds (LSA not exactly = LSD).

and yours 15 seeds was heavy indeed = 375ug LSD. . 8o of course these are average estimates, potency may vary somewhat by chance.
 
So theoretically, ordering the HBWR seeds online and eating 10-15 straight down (aka, no extraction method, no grinding up, etc.) should induce a sufficient trip?
 
^ If they're strong seeds then 5 would provide a pretty good trip. Depends on the batch - some are stronger than others. 10-15 would be a pretty hefty dose by most people's standards. You need to chew them for as long as possible to get the most from them though (or maybe grind them but I've not tried that). If you swallow them whole they're pretty ineffective, in my experience.

californiagreen said:
so here is my question will the milky way variety work or not??
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I think that all varieties of MGS work but Heavenly Blue seem to be the most widely recommended. I've never used MGS but that seems to be the one to go for if you have a choice. Shouldn't be any harder to find them than any other variety, I'd think.
 
For how long those seed trips lasts??? i've heard its really popular.Of course it is LSA not LSD so it wont be as much as intense as LSD.

Where do you buy those seeds. I wont buy them of ebay or something because i could just got and buy straight LSA or LSD from a dealer.Ive heard u can get them in groccery stores but they r threated with pesticides.mabe u can wash em somehow??
 
My HBWR trip lasted about as long as LSD.

Also dont think that because its LSA it cant be as intense or profound as LSD.
There are many folks here who would disagree with you on that statement, though ive never personally had an LSA experience that was as strong as my LSD trips, i have seen people tripping pretty hard on LSA.

And your best bet for untreated seeds is the internet.
 
Hbwr

I recently just got some HBWR seeds.

I have a fairly strong stomach and was not concerned with the nausea alot of users report.

To prepare them all I did was smash them up (did not grind or crush to powder, just some small sized flakes), and wrapped them in a rizzla and swallowed them.

I took a total of 10 and it did not do a single thing.

What did I do wrong? Weak batch maybe? Preparation wrong?

Thanks in advance.
 
chew them up and hold them in your mouth for 20-30 minutes, then swallow or spit out. the sublingual is key ime with hbwr.
 
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