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mephedrone long term negative effects progress reports

.. it will be at least 10 years before there is any hard evidence on the short + long term side effects of taking this drug. for all we know we could be shortening our lives every time we take it...

I prefer to shorten my life with other drugs.
 
i doubt we would even know if its from mephedrone, if we get heart problems etc whos to say it was down to meph?
 
...I wouldn't really be all that surprised if this stuff is a strong neurotoxin, too.

Why's that? Analogy with 4-methyl-amphetamine? Have we established that the latter is significantly worse than MDMA? I mean, I wouldn't be surprised either. . . :)

ebola
 
I was pretty gung-ho about acquiring some MEPH before all these negative reports starting coming out. In the last month the popularity has seemed to surged and more people have been dosing.

The main problem with it for me is that it seems to be a vasoconstrictor , and a fairly potent one at that. I hate vasoconstrictors personally , they seem to leave me unable to breathe well. Also, the mechanism of action , pharmacokinectics, and metabolites produced seem to be unknown...

Until I know the pharmacology more , and we get some proof it's not toxic, i'm gonna stay away...

Sucks!

-lenses
 
Anyone had any experiences with Mephedrone playing with your mind? I had about half a gram this weekend over the space of two nights but I had a lot of alcohol, some powdered E that was very weak and I think I may have done some weed and Ket but I was very drunk so I'm not sure. Anyway I did this on Saturday it's not Tuesday and I've barely slept, I feel so emotional, sad and paranoid and I feel like I've created problems that weren't there before. What I dislike about this drug is how open it makes you. I pretty much told a bunch of people I barely knew all my darkest secrets. I've had very few physical side effects other than the night after I felt so shaky and had no appetite for two days after. But I feel like I am going insane, at night before I go to sleep I keep imagining lots of different people saying my name over and over again, it's not that I'm hearing voices, just that i'm creating them in my head which is really really weird. I'm also losing perspective of things. Anyone reacted this way?
 
lol that is quite a mix of substances. why are you blaming the meph?

this drug doesn't make me that open, even when combined with booze i just chat about random shit, i always feel in control

however meph has played some mind games, i get quite emotional for a few days afterwards, some levels of guilty, paranoid, obsessive thoughts and generally feeling unmotivated and feeling like shit

will be giving this shit a break after my fingers and side of my foot turned quite red the other day. ive even cut down to only doing it once every 2 weeks but my come downs are still being harsh. tried different batches as well

wont forget how good it made me feel though, watching people dance in lights at a rave with some awesome beats blasting was beautiful, it felt heavenly just to stand there and watch them. teeth grinding euphoria
 
lol that is quite a mix of substances. why are you blaming the meph?

this drug doesn't make me that open, even when combined with booze i just chat about random shit, i always feel in control

however meph has played some mind games, i get quite emotional for a few days afterwards, some levels of guilty, paranoid, obsessive thoughts and generally feeling unmotivated and feeling like shit

will be giving this shit a break after my fingers and side of my foot turned quite red the other day. ive even cut down to only doing it once every 2 weeks but my come downs are still being harsh. tried different batches as well

wont forget how good it made me feel though, watching people dance in lights at a rave with some awesome beats blasting was beautiful, it felt heavenly just to stand there and watch them. teeth grinding euphoria

Because of all the substances I did, I did meph the most and I'm blaming the combination of alcohol and meph most. I'm not sure if I did Ket but I suspect I did, I know that I had a few puffs of weed but not sure how much as my memory has blacked out a lot of the night.
The powdered E was sooo weak it pretty much did nothing to me, I can remember everything from that, it had no effect on me so yeah I'm blaming meph.

I love this substance but I hate how it's made me tell people my secrets and it made me chat about all my insecurities and now I realise just how insecure I am. And yeah I chat a lot of shit on it too lol. I felt in control the first time I did it but then when I topped up my dose although I felt in control, the next morning I realised I wasn't in control at all.

Yeah I had one of the best experiences on it, the first time I saw it I saw one of my favourite dance bands live and it made the music sound so good. Also meph is such aphrodisiac I find, I've gotten with four people in one night, one of them being girls when I am straight but it makes you INCREDIBLY horny. I think at one point I suggested a foursome with my friends, two of us were girls the other two were boys, sheesh even when I'm drunk i'm not that crazy but the stuff I was on last weekend was so pure, I only did one line and it was the most fucked i'd ever gotten from meph and it lasted about 4 hours.

I'm not sure I'm gonna do it again though because like you said: 'however meph has played some mind games, i get quite emotional for a few days afterwards, some levels of guilty, paranoid, obsessive thoughts and generally feeling unmotivated and feeling like shit'

I feel exactly like this right now and I need to pass my A Levels and get into university so I've gotta stop taking meph. I've only had it four times and I can feel how much of a hold it has on me, it's also gotten me to try drugs I would have never considered trying. Meph was the first drug I ever tried purely because all I knew was that it was 'legal' so therefore it must have been fine. Only after I had taken it and researched did I realise how toxic it was. I really shouldn't have been so naive.
 
I really shouldn't have been so naive.

Case in point my friend. You did way too much and now you are paying the price. This can happen with any drug or drugs. It is just way easier to go overboard with dangerous stimulants like this one.


Although I must say it is tragic that a drug that makes girls beg for foursomes will soon be made illegal because of gross irresponsibility on the part of users.
 
Case in point my friend. You did way too much and now you are paying the price. This can happen with any drug or drugs. It is just way easier to go overboard with dangerous stimulants like this one.


Although I must say it is tragic that a drug that makes girls beg for foursomes will soon be made illegal because of gross irresponsibility on the part of users.

Didn't he say he did a half gram spread over a few days? Another guy said he had bad side effects after doing 400mg in one day. That doesn't really sound like much to me. Kind of worries me since I was planing on trying it...
 
Didn't he say he did a half gram spread over a few days? Another guy said he had bad side effects after doing 400mg in one day. That doesn't really sound like much to me. Kind of worries me since I was planing on trying it...

Yeah I did half a gram spread over a two nights, also the night I asked my friends for a foursome was the night I only did one line, the previous night I did more but the stuff I did that night was pure white and I did quite a big line whereas the previous night the meth had bits of grey in it. Haha I didn't beg for a foursome I just suddenly mentioned it and then all the guys were like 'sure ;)' and my friend (female) was like 'YEAH I WANT A THREESOME' and then we lost our trails of thought and decided to watch a horror movie but we couldn't concentrate.
 
this drug should be ok in serious moderation in my opinion. i haven't quite yet payed the price for doing it once a week (or not that im aware of) but ive only just recovered from my last meph encounter and i did that on saturday night. seriously physically exhausting (i always mix with booze though)

great at the time but never worth abusing it. i really dont know how people are taking this shit every day.

saying that im ment to be going to a 12 hour rave soon, if i drink just booze ill end up falling asleep. music doesn't sound that good on booze either. if only i could find some decent MDMA, for fuck sake
 
this drug should be ok in serious moderation in my opinion. i haven't quite yet payed the price for doing it once a week (or not that im aware of) but ive only just recovered from my last meph encounter and i did that on saturday night. seriously physically exhausting (i always mix with booze though)

great at the time but never worth abusing it. i really dont know how people are taking this shit every day.

saying that im ment to be going to a 12 hour rave soon, if i drink just booze ill end up falling asleep. music doesn't sound that good on booze either. if only i could find some decent MDMA, for fuck sake

How the hell do you do it every weekend?! Yeah I did some last weekend and I too have only just recovered and I ended up skipping two classes to recover too. I mean I would love to do the stuff every weekend if a) I could afford to b) it had no negative effects such as telling people all my secrets c) it didn't physically exhaust me to the extent I couldn't do any work. I mean do you have a job or are you in school/university? Cos I would have to be on a gap year doing nothing but having fun to get away with that, my body just wouldn't be able to take it, having said that I have the autoimmune disease hypothyroidism that means you metabolise everything really slowly which might be why I react quite crazily to these drugs.
 
i do a very physically demanding job, been doing it for 6+ years, get out of bed 4:45am every day and work 8/10 hour days lifting steel around, on my feet all day. believe me when im coming down going to work is a massive challenge, the job is hard on its own. and i also have to drive 40 minutes each way to get there

i dont do a massive amount when i do it, 400/500mg in the space of 8 hours, also get drunk as well. so it is taking a considerable toll on my body. never used to get come-downs like i do now though.

how old are you? are you healthy? was the meph you did the smelly stuff? im pretty fit and healthy which is good, if i was unhealthy i think this stuff would keep me in bed all day on a come down
 
i do a very physically demanding job, been doing it for 6+ years, get out of bed 4:45am every day and work 8/10 hour days lifting steel around, on my feet all day. believe me when im coming down going to work is a massive challenge, the job is hard on its own. and i also have to drive 40 minutes each way to get there

i dont do a massive amount when i do it, 400/500mg in the space of 8 hours, also get drunk as well. so it is taking a considerable toll on my body. never used to get come-downs like i do now though.

how old are you? are you healthy? was the meph you did the smelly stuff? im pretty fit and healthy which is good, if i was unhealthy i think this stuff would keep me in bed all day on a come down

I'm 18 and female, I'm physically fit, I run about 5-6 times a week and walk everywhere, I guess I am mostly healthy except that I have an hypothyroidism but I'm on a 50mg drug of levothyroxin hormone and I take that daily, I'm also a smoker but i've only been smoking regularly for three or four months so not that long, my diet is usually healthy but I tend to skip a lot of meals and don't always eat enough or enough protein etc. Other than that I guess I'd be classified as healthy no? I get run down very easily though because of this autoimmune disease has buggered up the strength of my auto immune system and it takes very little for me to get ill.
The first night I don't remember it ever being smelly, but last friday the stuff I did was quite clumpy and had bits of grey in it and then on the saturday night the stuff I did was pure bright white and had no smell and was fine powder. I have to admit that I mixed it on both occasions with a lot of alcohol, firstly because I found it improves the experience and makes the drug last longer but I also drank so that I didn't have to feel the comedown.

ALSO...WOW, I could never ever in a million years get out of bed and do such a physically demanding job after a comedown or a night of meth, I was pretty much having a nervous breakdown in a french class and this was at least over a day I'd had the meth. Your body can clearly take more than mine. I'd say I did about a third of a gram over that weekend which really isn't a lot of meph but obviously there are the other drugs to take into account...
 
yeah mixing it with booze is a good experience. felt so good.

could be something to do with your autoimmune disease i guess,

the first come down i ever encountered from a 2 day experience + drinking was severe....i dunno how i got through that day....never felt so bad in all my life. never tried doing it 2 days in a row again. saying that the come-downs i get now are almost just as bad, no motivation whatsoever, just literally wanna curl up and die. lol!
 
with these terrible comedowns and wallet draining addictive nature is this drug worth doing?

It provides pretty much the best euphoria I've ever felt its first few uses, and yes I've done pure MDMA, plenty of opiates and Cocaine/Speed before so its not like I don't have benchmarks to compare. Trippy edge to the euphoria too. Worth it though? Probably not, as euphoria is not too great after about 5 or 6 sessions and it is fucking addictive that you keep coming back once a week hoping you've got enough Serotonin/Dopamine stored up and alas, you never do... :( Plus, there seems to be loads of acute and possibly long term nasty side effects. Worth it seems totally subjective though, even after abusing it like I have it all still seems 'worth it', I had a good summer, lots of fucked up nights and I'm still alive with only the slightest vasoconstriction coming up on the last time I did it ('cold' hands and feet, feet were a bit pale, hands a bit red) and some very sporadic heart pains that seem to be getting much better with exercise and lack of Mephedrone/stimulants. So it was worth it, for me, it may not be for you because you may lose a hand or something if this is such severe vasoconstriction occurring in some people.
 
It provides pretty much the best euphoria I've ever felt its first few uses, and yes I've done pure MDMA, plenty of opiates and Cocaine/Speed before so its not like I don't have benchmarks to compare. Trippy edge to the euphoria too. Worth it though? Probably not, as euphoria is not too great after about 5 or 6 sessions and it is fucking addictive that you keep coming back once a week hoping you've got enough Serotonin/Dopamine stored up and alas, you never do... :( Plus, there seems to be loads of acute and possibly long term nasty side effects. Worth it seems totally subjective though, even after abusing it like I have it all still seems 'worth it', I had a good summer, lots of fucked up nights and I'm still alive with only the slightest vasoconstriction coming up on the last time I did it ('cold' hands and feet, feet were a bit pale, hands a bit red) and some very sporadic heart pains that seem to be getting much better with exercise and lack of Mephedrone/stimulants. So it was worth it, for me, it may not be for you because you may lose a hand or something if this is such severe vasoconstriction occurring in some people.

quoted for truth! amen!:!

yep amazing at first but after the honeymoon it bcomes compulsive, boring and leads to excessive masturbation and porn use followed by massive guilt, a smaller wallet, strange chest pains and a slow gradual return to dignity over time.

i want my heart to be fine when i'm older and considering i've probably used over 80grams of this stuff (in the last year) i think the 5ht2b effects might be beggining to take hold (just a guess) at this level of frequency.

either way i want a better high and i'm looking towards amt as an occaisional replacement=D
 
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