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Opioids Mega Merged: Ultimate poppy pod/seed tea thread - Part II

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Thank you! That's exactly what I wanted to hear. I'm brewing up my first tablespoon of powder now in a french press.

I'm going to keep the powder in the freezer because I plan on having it for a few months.. unless it floors me.
 
RE: hard to crack pods: I've noticed that in general, higher quality pods are hard to crack, and the flimsy ones that crumble easily are less potent. If you're unsure how strong your tea is or have pods from a new vendor, I find that the color of the tea and the bitterness of the taste are good indicators of high alkaloid content.

I really like adding a bag of mint tea to my PPT makes the flavor MUCH easier to stomach. Helps a lot when you're feeling kinda sick and think the taste might make you throw up.
 
Looks nom nom to me! French presses are awesome, wish I had one. Be sure to double-dose (an appropriate amount of time after the first, of course) since the build-up does way more to blast you off than the initial buzz. I can't get a good pod nod anymore unless I also take them the day before.
 
Finally success with the "ice-o-later" tek

Alright, so I've posted in quite a few threads about this
this tek.

I tried it once several months ago with no success. However today I had some spare time on my hands and my order of poppies arrived. So I figured what the hell and gave it a shot.
I followed the directions on the link above except, I made my tea like usual, heating it on low for 30 minutes. Which as I learned from reading today was a bad idea...you do not want to heat the ground poppy/water solution. Heating it only releases more plant oils and plant oils are exactly what you're trying to remove with this tek.

I used around 20 medium sized pods and 2 liters (or so) of water, when I was done brewing I had around 1.5 liters. I let the mix cool to a reasonable temperature then filtered like usual with a t shirt and put the tea into 3 plastic bottles.
I then put the bottles in the freezer where they remained for roughly an hour (maybe 1.5 hours). After waiting I took the bottles out of the freezer (which were now 1/3-1/2 ice). I discarded the ice which was mostly clear with some brown in areas and put the dark brown solution into another bottle. I repeated the process and removal of ice 3 times on each bottle. Each time the solution got darker and darker.

I saved the discarded ice for comparison and after it melted it was several shades lighter than the tea, with visible particulate matter floating in it.
After doing this 3 times I had about .75 liters of very dark 'tea.' So I figured cool I must have been removing something, I just hoped I was removing the stuff that would prevent me from smoking this.
Next a small amount of concentrated tea was poured on a plate and left in front of a space heater to evaporate. When done evaporating it didn't look much different than pod putty and I was kind of bummed. BUT when I was scraping the plate clean I noticed it wasn't quite as thick as pod puddy. Actually in the areas that were thin, I was scrapping off a golden-brown flakes compared to sticky icky pod putty goo. In the areas where the solution pooled and was thicker, it looked similar to pod putty but not quite the same. Possibly because it wasn't dried to the extent of the thinner areas.

Anyway, the moment of truth:
I placed some of the golden brown flakes onto some tin foil and held a lighter underneath it. And hooray it started smoking. Now I should mention the one and only time I tried to smoke pod putty, it hardly smoked at all. And after a few hits (with putty) it just turned into a rock hard lump and it was beat. This stuff not only smoked (and got cherried) but after a couple hits it turned to ash. It did not taste good. However it had a sweet hint and was not harsh...it just didnt taste good. It pretty much tasted like burning mixed with the smell it makes when you brew tea. I think if I used cold water when brewing the tea, I think the taste may be improved and the texture may be less sticky. well only the parts that weren't 100% dry were sticky but anyway...

The effects?
I put a question mark because I was already high, so I can't tell how potent this stuff is. However after several hits, I felt warmth from within and relaxation creep up on me. It wasn't like the rush you get from fent or heroin, but I did feel something. I also noticed when I blinked my eyes it seemed to take longer than usual and my eyelids felt heavier than before smoking. I feel itchier too. Nothing amazing but possibly more than placebo. I probably only smoked a tenth. Considering refined opium is about 10% morphine, a tenth of this probably didn't have much morphine (maybe 10mgs) plus the other alkaloids. Which isn't terrible considering 30mgs of morphine would provide quite the rush.

I have more experimenting to do with this before I become a true believer but I think I might have finally got this to work. I'll write more about this if people want to know specifics. If anyone else has done it/would like to do it and would care to share with the rest of us that would be greatly appreciated. This is definitely something worth checking out, even if its just for novelty/having some fun in the kitchen. I'm going to go try out another tenth. peace

edit: wow! You know how I said earlier the thicker of the evap dish resembled pod putty? Not anymore. It's hard to describe but it's dried out. It doesn't stick to your fingers, it pretty much resembles hash, not like bubblebag hash and (not honey/iso hash either) but somewhere in between. I'll post pics tomorrow. but this definitely looks like the real deal and smokes like the real deal.
 
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I didnt find any answer so i ask it here. How long can i store poppy tea on bottle or glass before its ruined? Like is i make tee but it in glass and drink it six hour later is it gonna be ok?
 
I can't believe I actually fed a full blown addiction with pods from Ebay. Now that I have seen other vendors online with MUCH lower prices, it makes me cringe. I could have saved such an inordinate amount of money. Oh well, at least I know better now.
 
They cant be sold on ebay anymore? when did this happen?

Hope you guys got your vendors email!
 
OK, well I want to tell about my first experience with pods last night. This isn't a trip report, just some general notes.

9:00pm - 12:00am I mixed up 2 tablespoons of powder in a french press and drank over the course of 3 hours while playing Call of Duty. I mixed up a 3rd tablespoon but didn't end up drinking it because I could start to feel something and I was sort of drunk.

I drank a few pints before dosing and continued drinking vodka into the night. I wouldn't recommend this. I didn't notice anything positive until my alcohol buzz wore off.

12:00am-4:00am I played online poker and watched torrents. During that time, I felt some muscle rigidity, but lids felt heavy and I found myself nodding here n' there. No euphoria though :( Nausea and a dull headache set in at about the 5 hour mark as the alcohol was wearing off. Still no euphoria. I felt a little sick so I went to lay down.

4:00am+ Finally something! I could actually feel the good opiate effects for the first time. Unfortunately it was 5am and I needed some sleep. I feel slightly dissociated. I laid very still to keep my stomach from being upset and enjoyed a couple hours of semi-relaxed opiate euphoria before passing out.

4:30pm - I wake up feeling relaxed and well rested, but my stomach has an abused feeling like I ate something I shouldn't have. I can't believe I slept almost 12 hours. I definitely have an afterglow.

Thoughts:

I can see why dosing is tricky. Unlike other opiates, the buzz wasn't as smooth and I found the effects would oscillate in fits and starts. I can see how it would be easy to overdo it and have your night ruined.

The headache I can attribute to alcohol, but the nausea worries me a little. I drank mostly tea, but ate maybe 1/2tsp of grains. I have a pretty strong stomach, so I doubt I'd throw up but the feeling is just awful.

The taste isn't bitter at all. I was bracing myself for this awful taste but I found it almost pleasant. I don't know what people are complaining about. Maybe it's because my dose was weak, or because I routinely assault my taste buds with all manner of bitter and spicy things.

I took maybe the equivalent to 1 tennis-ball sized pod. I've heard people say they take 4+ pods. I can see how that would put me on the floor, but I also worry I'd be in the bathroom puking. Next time I try this will be with some friends on the weekend. They're all big drinkers, so I'm not sure how I'm going to convince them to try this sober.
 
They cant be sold on ebay anymore? when did this happen?

Hope you guys got your vendors email!

Yes, this happened quite suddenly. I believe it is in response to this: http://www.coloradodaily.com/news/2009/jul/21/boulder-man-dies-poppy-pod-tea-overdose/

Poppy tea has always been pretty far under the radar. But now there have been 2 overdoses within a couple of months of eachother, and both happened in Boulder Colorado. This is exactly the kind of publicity that was somehow always absent, but I am sure more and more people are becoming aware of them.

I fear that this may be the beginning of the end for this sort of thing...
 
I don't think they can end the whole business of people selling dried pods for flower arrangemening. It's a whole industry run by innocent grannies who nobody would want to label as criminals.
 
They cant be sold on ebay anymore? when did this happen?

Hope you guys got your vendors email!


It happened the evening of 7/21.

The fact is the plant itself is illegal. It's just not heavily enforced because of a lack of awareness but look what happened to hogshire. Sure he got off but at what cost?
Ebay wants no part of that. I don't know if it's accesable but it would be the same as if they were distributing coca, iboga, peyote or cathata edulis all of which are ILLEGAL plants.
How one reconciles Mcormick and other retailers being allowed to still freely sell the seeds I don't know. I realize a lot of the seeds are made inviable for growing but still the alkaloid content is inevitable.
 
Who cares really they grow everywhere and when they don't just buy a big bag of seed , (500 gram bags for a few bucks over here ) and spread the floral revolution
 
methadone to poppy pod conversion? Dosage help please.

70mg of Methadone is equal in weight to about how many medium sized pods? I have a scale.


How much pod powder (weight) would you use, equal to about a 70mg buzz of methadone?



Any advice about pods and dosing you want to add here would be appreciated. First time.


-Thanks
 
i dont think ANYTHING works to substitute for methadone, its just a C*** of a drug. as many as you have i guess! if your on 70 mg of methadone and you missed your dose, it might help but in my experience nothing did. and too much morph can give you itches and urticaria, which sucks badly. be more specific for more advice.
apparently the dried weight of extracted poppy straw extract is 1-2 percent morph, but i know that can vary hugely to about 15 percent.
 
Not physically addicted to any opiate and never have been, was using methadone for recreation once a week from a source that moved away, got up to 70mg (7 pills) at one time, had me feeling good, itchy, but no strong nod. Sounds like your telling my Ive built up a killer tolerance? even though im not addicted.
 
Unfortunately i have not got a good response to my question just a few ^.

I'm looking for a ppt dose by WEIGHT to compare to 70mg methadone for recreation, im not on maintenance and have never been addicted to any opiate, but do have tolerance.

I'm just going to make a 40g tea and drink half wait a while and finish it if i need more, sound close enough?
 
^ Check this narcotic conversion website out http://www.globalrph.com/narcoticonv.htm. This is useful, since it takes into consideration the incomplete cross tolerance between opiates. Assuming 70mg is taken (acute oral rather than chronic, as I assume someone on MMT wouldn't get high on 70mg methadone) and there is a 40% reduction for incomplete cross tolerance, the equivalent dose of oral morphine would be 63mg. You just need to use whatever figure you decide as an estimate of the pod straw concentration and calculate the amount required to provide this dose of morphine.
 
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