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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ and Megathread v.1; 2007 - 2010

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kasad said:
Damn, I must be blind. Don't know how I missed that one.

Do you iv bupe alone by itself or you mix it with something?

I ived bupe 3 times and definitely there is no rush, but IVing even 1mg will hold me nicely whole day. 2mg seems like my pleasure ammount tho.

What technique you use? Did you ever missed?

I found that it's best to (in absence of micron/wheel filter) to use large gauge needle and stuff it with q-tip cotton, then run some alcohol trough it, then attach it to the syringe with dissolved bupe and squirt it drop by drop in sterile new syringe. It takes lots of time to prepare shot but it's crystal clear.

What are you tips on iving bupe?
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I IVed Alot of Subutex before Suboxone came out on the market.
(The real difference in Subutex and Suboxone is noticed when IVed in my experience - longer time to get effect and not quite the same feeling)

Anyways.. I have never felt any rush from Bupe IV and neither have anyone i know but if you have absolutely 0 tolerance or are new to opiates/opioids maybe.
(Well, if you're really opiate sick and IV bupe it can feel like kind of a smooth rush-type-feeling when you get instantly fine)

You can mix Subutex/Suboxone with anti-histamines to get a better more sedating effect when IVed. But not every anti-histamine works for this, here's the mega thread for the subject: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=347773&highlight=histamines

Its worth trying a couple of times but it can't be good even if you have a micron filter - well pills aren't good to IV in the first place.
So thats my tip!

I prepared my Subutex like this:
Take a spoon, put the piece of sub/powder on it and add ~0.5-1-1½ml of water (I used Insuline-syringes which came in either 0.5ml or 1ml)
and then stir it up so it all dissolves.
Then some people like to add some heat to the solution, like put the spoon on the stove plate for a short while (You do NOT want it to boil or be anywhere near that because it gets like gel if you do).
Then stir again, it will have cleared up a little (i imagine alot of fillers dissolve) then put in a piece of cotton/q-tip/micron/wheel filter and suck up the solution and shoot away!

I missed shots when i IVed Subutex, did always apply heat to the place where i missed for some time and never had an abscess or anything like that. A little red and swollen but nothing really dangerous - though it CAN be dangerous!
 
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DeLee said:
Anyways.. I have never felt any rush from Bupe IV and neither have anyone i know but if you have absolutely 0 tolerance or are new to opiates/opioids maybe.
(Well, if you're really opiate sick and IV bupe it can feel like kind of a smooth rush-type-feeling when you get instantly fine)
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If you have a hefty opiate tolerance, as I said, you won't feel anything from IV buprenorphine. If you have a low opiate tolerance like I do, you can get a good rush off of 0.5mg buprenorphine IV'd.

You NEVER want to heat the solution though, you're just dissolving more of the inactive ingredients into the shot by doing so. 17mg of Buprenorphine can dissolve into 1 CC of water.
 
Well my Mephedrone came through the post this morning, and I tried a reletively small amount - and it seems to mix nicely with bupe.

When I was on smack - it only took a whiff of speed/E to make me feel like I was in wd, but I feel fine.

I'm thinking its the long half life and strong affinty that stops this happening.

Regarding Mephedrone - I CAN"T BELIEVE THIS SHITS LEGAL!
 
Hi everyone,

This is PhreeX's friend Melanie.
I have been reading the posts on Suboxone and recently acquired a few to try.

I took one yesterday (24 hours ago) and wouldn't you know it, someone dropped by the other day and handed me a few blue's.

:::: Oh the agony-- what to do ::::

I want to do the oxy's, but if it's pointless than I do not.

I've read you can feel the effects of narcotics 8-12 hours on some sites, and 24 hours other others.

Can someone give me a straight answer?

Thank you
 
Never heat subutex when preparing a shot it turns into a gravy. Did that mistake once.

Most i've shot is 4mg but tbh there's no difference for me in shooting 2mg or 4mg, I do have some effects and I am nicely covered for the rest of the day. I filter it very well (I put a piece of q-tip cotton into a large needle then stick syringe onto it and press like mad, it goes out drop at a time (into prepped clean syringe) and it can take even 20 minutes but what I get is crystal clear, the remaining goo I squirt sublingualy.

I've never had much problems (though I only did this 4 times total so far) apart from some pain once which was related to not having insulin needle (used big ass one, yeah I was that desperate) and once I had some redness and slight pain on the site for about 20 hours, but after some hot water massage and keeping it sterile for a day it vanished.

I guess my tolerance is way to high to feel a "rush" what I do feel is somewhat of a opiate warmness that comes on after about 3-4 minutes after iv. It's subtle but enjoyable.
 
PhreeX said:
Hi everyone,

This is PhreeX's friend Melanie.
I have been reading the posts on Suboxone and recently acquired a few to try.

I took one yesterday (24 hours ago) and wouldn't you know it, someone dropped by the other day and handed me a few blue's.

:::: Oh the agony-- what to do ::::

I want to do the oxy's, but if it's pointless than I do not.

I've read you can feel the effects of narcotics 8-12 hours on some sites, and 24 hours other others.

Can someone give me a straight answer?

Thank you
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depends how much sub u take, if i take 2mg of sub in the morning, i can feel oxy at night but i have to break through the sub. I normally take 40-50mg of oxy at once to get a good high, but if i took my sub in the morning i would need about 60-70mg to get high. If you wait the full 24 hours, there wont be any blocking effect and you can take ur regular dose. If i was you, just wait it out for at least 16-18 hours if u cant make the 24 hour mark. but the high will be so much better if u wait 24 hour. if you dont wait 24 hours, u still get high, but its like some of the high is missing, like the warm fuzziness.
 
Suboxone: Length of time under the tongue

What I've been wondering is whether anyone has tried out holding the pill/spit wad for varying lengths of time under the tongue when taking Suboxone/Subutex via sublingual administration in order to determine what is more effective? Most indications call for two to ten minutes, and I would be inclined to think the longer the better, right? But what I'm asking is, has anyone discovered a noteworthy increase in efficacy, or even a difference at all between holding the medicine in their mouth (and not swallowing) for a long time, (say 10-20min+) as opposed to only doing it for several minutes(1-5min)? Has anyone attempted any excessive periods of time, like 30 minutes or an hour? Any difference(s)?

I have heard some swear that the longer you hold it in your mouth, the more pronounced the effects will be. Thought it seems to me that the active ingredients are absorbed rather quickly, within a few minutes, and that there is little if any point to tolerate a mouth full of (lemon-lime) saliva for more than a minute or two after the pill itself has dissolved.

Thoughts?



Mods: I debated on whether or not to place this in the MegaThread, but I was afraid it might simply get overlooked and buried. If you wish to merge this into the Bupe/Sub Mega Thread, do what you need to do.
 
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i try to hold it until i get a little too much spit in my mouth and then swallow that, but it's only the little extra i can't hold, you know? see, i take it everyday at a very high dose i normally just get a little sleepy, but sometimes when i swallow it (a lot of extra spit), i will get a little kick, sometimes i don't and/or i hold longer and that will give a little kick.

i'm half and half..
 
If you do not want to insufflate it, then by all means keep it under your tongue as long as possible without swallowing.
 
Hey!

I didn't start a new thread for this - as I thought it would most likely get answered well in here, seing as it is subutex related.

When I finally jump off bupe in around 6 weeks, I will be jumping off at 0.1mg.

What WD should I expect?

But most importantly - I am getting a naltrexone implant. What I am having a dilema about - is how long after finishing Subutex should I get the implant?

Of course, I *really* want to make sure there is NO opiates left in my system when I get the implant - but on the other hand, I don't want there to be a sizeable gap between finishing and getting it as I will be pretty vunerable to using at this point I think.
 
unless i'm only putting like 1-2mg under my tongue it is gonna take at least 10 minutes for the thing to dissolve and for me to stop tasting it... so i'm not really sure what this thread is asking about...

i mean, the more ya put under your tongue, the longer it's gonna take to dissolve... do you mean swallow the remaining undissolved pill after a few minutes vs. letting it all dissolve over 10-20mins?

personally i keep it under my tongue 'til i can't taste it or feel it there anymore, and yeah i mean i've swallowed it before it was all dissolved before and the effects were a bit weaker... i'm still confused!
 
Eight0Eight said:
Hey!

I didn't start a new thread for this - as I thought it would most likely get answered well in here, seing as it is subutex related.

When I finally jump off bupe in around 6 weeks, I will be jumping off at 0.1mg.

What WD should I expect?

But most importantly - I am getting a naltrexone implant. What I am having a dilema about - is how long after finishing Subutex should I get the implant?

Of course, I *really* want to make sure there is NO opiates left in my system when I get the implant - but on the other hand, I don't want there to be a sizeable gap between finishing and getting it as I will be pretty vunerable to using at this point I think.
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I wouldn't expect anything too nasty. It's easy to build this all up in the mind. Run, bike, or do whatever physical activity you enjoy A LOT. Feel's great. I'd want to wait at least a few weeks to get an implant in that type situation. Maybe 14-21 days.
 
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Are you on maintenance? I don't see too much difference if I keep it under my tongue for 15 or 25 minutes, esp. when on maintenance therapy. It never really "kicks in".
 
Muscle twitching with Suboxone and antibiotics..

Hello all.
I've got an infected sore on my arm for which I am taking Augmentin orally to combat the infection, along with antibiotic creams and antiseptic solution. I've noticed that I will have these myoclonic jerks (kinda like when you are almost asleep and something jolts you out of your sleep) for most of the day and night. When I had some surgery last July that required the use of antibiotics, I also noticed these flinches or jerks. Has anyone else in here experienced this or know why this might be happening to me? Very odd. It's most def. a combination of Suboxone and any oral antibiotic. I find it highly uncomfortable and annoying to where I will cease taking the Augmentin. Why does this happen? Any theories?
Thanks.
SW
 
I used to get the occasional muscle twitch while on Suboxone and I take an antibiotic nearly every day. It was more annoying than anything and I think I would stop taking the bupe if I had to chose between it and an antibiotic if I had an infection.
 
There is a known interaction between certain anti-biotics and narcotics in general due to CYP450 inhibition. Though I do not know how that would result in twitching/spasms. Do you know what the specific anti-biotic(s) were?
 
Augmentin (amoxicillin/clavilanate) and clarithromycin were the ones. There has to be some contraindications with these and Suboxone because it happened both times these drugs were mixed but was worse on clarithromycin. It took me a while to figure out that it was the antibiotic.
 
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