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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

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another weekend, away in brisbane, clean:) i slipped up by IVing some subutex but i can justify that as a replacement for my fent patches.

much love and support to everyone out there<3

zephyr said:
Its more of an achievement being sober by choice rather than circumstance.
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aint that the truth:)
 
How long do amphetamine withdrawals last in all? I mean, how long does it take to feel completely normal physically, and mostly normal mentally?

I did take three weeks off from adderall and I still wasn't normal by the end of that... My legs were still a little weak and shaky, and my anxiety was still high. I wonder if I took a month off would I be better completely, or does it take longer than that?

List of things to hurry up and feel normal: hard exercise, healthy food, l-tyrosine, valerian root, anything else? I'm impatient, I know...
 
when I had forced WD's (military deployments) I found I was just lethargic and a bit weak feeling for about week, and had a hella runny nose cause its a decongestant too... I'm pretty heavy user. But I guess it differs for everyone.

try ephedrine/pseudoephedrine for the runny nose, plus they'll give you a boost of psychical enegry without the addictive euphoria, making your WD's a tad easier.

I wonder if "they" have ever considered modafinal replacement, just to ease the fatigue and such, as a treatment for stim addiction, as they do with methadone and opioids.
 
I hate the fucking runny nose.... I get it horribly and it's really embarassing and disgusting (especially when you're making out/having sex, nothing sexier than someone with a chronic runny nose).
 
I haven't gotten the runny nose very much, but when I withdraw from adderall the worst for me is really weak legs, like they shake when I stand up, and they feel "weird and restless" when I lay down. Feels like I have to learn to walk again, and it goes on for at least two weeks. I also get really tired all the time, so I'm almost unable to function at work and school. Those are the symptoms I'd love to get rid of faster!

I'm not withdrawing now, but I'm planning to go through it all again in about a month... Want to be completely drug-free for the summer, at least.
 
mrs_mia_wallace said:
I hate the fucking runny nose.... I get it horribly and it's really embarassing and disgusting (especially when you're making out/having sex, nothing sexier than someone with a chronic runny nose).
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trust me, take a shit load of ephedrine. Its a very strong PNS stimulant, just not a good CNS stimulant...so it will clear your nose up real nice, without providing much/any "high" take 60mgs or more if you need to, your meth tolerence is cross tolerant to it, so your heart wont explode.
 
I haven't actually done meth, but I've been considering it just for the experience, and being able to know how I feel about from a more educated position. I don't think I will because I've got a massively addictive personality, I'd just like to know what hte more experienced users take on this is.
 
I fucked up in the last week, I bought shards and banged them.
Fucking SHIT, I had alot of months under me belt, it's harder then ever now, without the stimulant maintainance i'd be a wreck for sure. Sorry I haven't been posting much bys, just working real hard and still struggling. (Times is rough and tough like leather).

~ Alex.
 
rangrz said:
I wonder if "they" have ever considered modafinal replacement, just to ease the fatigue and such, as a treatment for stim addiction, as they do with methadone and opioids.
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D-amphetamine is used, I'm on it for a lot of reasons, 50 milligrams a day now, one of them is for stim maintainance. I don't know if it's in the U.S.A though.
 
Ooboom said:
I haven't actually done meth, but I've been considering it just for the experience, and being able to know how I feel about from a more educated position. I don't think I will because I've got a massively addictive personality, I'd just like to know what hte more experienced users take on this is.
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That's a stupid idea.

rangz- thanks, I'll try the ephedrine.

I almost didn't use today, but then I did. Ugh. :|

I'm low on fucking drugs and my guy called me yesterday and offered to front me some but I hate being lent things from people unless I know I'm going to have the money in my hands in a few days and right now I don't know why my paycheck has not arrived, but I don't when it's getting here for sure. Last thing I want to do is owe HIM money and not have it.

I'm freaking out. I was able to get some yesterday off a friend after scrouging up some cash... but last LAST thing I need to do is get arrested this week. So unless this shit comes in the mail in the next couple days down to the pawn shop I will be selling something...
 
I loved amphetamine so freaking much. In the beginning it was the most amazing thing I had ever encountered, it made me feel euphoric and very social (two things I had never felt before). My love of amphetamine has died drastically, I wouldn't abuse it even if you payed me to. I get almost instant psychosis after the euphoria begins to fade and I spend the following days in solitude loathing my petty existence. I dropped down to 119 pounds after daily abuse and lost all my ambitions, I was truly a sad sight and I refuse to go back to that.

I hate speed, I truly do.
 
rangrz said:
I wonder if "they" have ever considered modafinal replacement, just to ease the fatigue and such, as a treatment for stim addiction, as they do with methadone and opioids.
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"They" have, at least for withdrawl. I was part of the pilot study of using modafinil for methamphetamine withdrawal (in Melbourne, Aus). I'm meant be receiving the results pretty soon.
 
Been just over 2 years clean off Meth following a year and a half of constant use, and I can say from personal experience: Wether it's 2 weeks or 2 years, it never gets any easier trying to stay clean.

As much as this drug destroyed my life over those 18 months I still can't help but think about it on a daily basis.

It's not so much my willpower keeping me away, but the fact that I ex-communicated every dealer and user that I knew.
Now, 2 years later, I couldn't even get it if I wanted to... and sadly enough, I've tried.

The biggest problem as I see it, is that our minds tend to romanticize things. When we think back to our childhood we always immediately remember the good things about being young, and wish we were back in those times again. We don't seem to remember all the things that utterly SUCKED about being a kid or teenager.

The same idea seems to hold true when thinking about drugs. I remember all the parties, friends, and kick-ass times that I never would have experienced had I not gotten into meth. I remember all the highs, and coincidentally, fail to remember all the lows...
 
Very discouraging to think that I'll never be the same again, and I've only been abusing drugs for a year and a half. Amphetamines for about seven months... Probably fucked myself up forever... :(
 
^ wingnut, NEVER give up.
Look at Lydia, or Claire.
They had 5+ year addictions I believe, and they're doing quite well with it, and i'm really glad of it and proud of them :). I was addicted to methamphetamine for over 5 years myself, not as long as those brave women though. Replace the adrenaline with something else that causes the rush, the energy that amphetamines do. I found literature and masterbation (yupp, proven to help amph withdrawal massively) to really help me through the hell. I've had a recent relapse, and I don't even smoke the shit or snort it. I always bang the speed when I relapse, I hate that shit. I'm optimistic now though.
It seems I turn more and more to another drug of choice of mine, Hypnotics, specifically Temazepam when I am in the pits about speed. godamn...
I can't give up though, my life has been shit so far, something good IS coming my way sometime, I KNOW it!
 
MDPV got me off meth and hooked on it....much cheaper and legal, another replacement therapy for people not inclined to be diagnosed as an addict for various reasons?

but you'll need self will and a taper plan, which I dont have, I just changed addictions.
 
wingnutlives said:
Amphetamines for about seven months... Probably fucked myself up forever... :(
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After 7 months? I highly doubt it :)

But that 7 months could one day turn into 7 years. So basically, you have to try and curb it now, before you wake up and you're really fucked. :\
 
Yesterday I asked a friend, "How long before U crash & burn on cocaine"? She didn't have an answer but in my experience . . . after about three months of coke every day (not too much either) my "poor little heart" had enough . . . then, a few weeks after i quit coke, a friend came along with meth . . . I smoked too much (my first time) and had a really bad experience.

Has a lot to do with how old U are too or whether Ur healthy / fit.
 
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