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Common names for research chemicals

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Hey guys, sorry if this has been done before, I did a search and didn't find anything I promise!

So I'm getting tired of using names like 2c-i and 5-meo-dmt around my friends... It puts them off and they don't exactly roll off the tounge. Can we start a list of the common names of these substances? I don't mean slang names like ecstacy, i mean the way we use "Psilocin" for 4-HO-DMT etc.

Is "Common name" even the term I'm looking for? Someone please correct me.

So far, the list is:

4-AcO-DET - Ethacetin
4-AcO-DiPT - Ipracetin
4-AcO-DMT - Psilacetin
4-AcO-MET - Metacetin
4-AcO-MiPT - Mipracetin
4-HO-DMT - Psilocin
4-HO-DET - Ethocin
4-Ho-DiPT - Iprocin
4-Ho-MET - Metacin
4-Ho-MiPT - Miprocin
4-OH-DiPT - Iprocin
4-OH-MiPT - Miprocin
4-PO-DET - Ethocybin
4-PO-DMT - Psilocybin
4-PO-NMT - Baeocystin

5-HO-DMT - Bufotenin

Please let me know any of the ones you know and I'll add them to the list. I'm particularly interested in names of the 5-subs as I'm not sure if these even have common names. Thanks!
 
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psilocybin is 4-PO-DMT

there isn't much you can do bout a 'common' name.. some people don't even know the 'common' names of certain drugs. Likes Nexus or Blue Mystic (2CB, 2CT7). The best you can do is educate your friends. Show them erowid. You can try and make up names among your friends to easier identify this chems. If you google the chemicals, most of the time in their wiki it'll show a pseudo-name.
 
Thanks, have fixed psilocybin

And I know I can google and wiki the chems, but i'd rather take submissions because a) there are so damn many of them, and b) it provokes discussion which is also good :)

How are names like psilocin and psilocetin decided on? They seem to be pretty unanimously accepted. Why can't this method of naming be used with other chems such as the 2c's? These are the kind of questions that interest me, but not being a chemist I really have no idea... Thats why I want to see everyone elses opinions if possible :D
 
i think with psilocybin its the species of mushroom Psilocybe. And the name changes according the chemical structure. Iprocin (4-oh-DiPT) Miprocin (4-oh-MiPT)
 
Thakns Bob, will add those. Out of curiosity though, do you know the difference between a scientific name such as psilocybin and a slang name such as nexus? Or ar ethe psil- names also slang, just a more fancy sounding slang?
 
your friends don´t like how 4-HO-DIPT sounds? shame...
How about 3-[2-(diisopropylamino)ethyl]-1H-indol-4-ol ? that should be as easy to say as doing pancakes.


4-HO-DET= Ethocin
4-PO-DET= Ethocybin
 
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4-AcO-DMT is Psilacetin, afaik, not Psilocetin.

4-HO-MET is Metocin, right?
 
Thanks Mjäll, have used your additions. Also added the 2c slang names, even though that wasn't my original intention, it's a start so keep them coming and maybe we can create a comprehensive list. Yay! =D
 
^I agree. There's a world of difference between referring to 4-PO-DMT as 'psilocybin' and referring to 2C-T-7 as '7up', though, IMO.
 
I sort of have to agree with the OP about finding more "layman friendly" terms. My friends are put off by the intense and scary laboratory number/letter names.

They view 2C-I as being FAR more intense than acid because it sounds scary and "intense"; not that they actually have any experience with any 2C's or know of their properties from researching them. Just the vibe of the names we currently have puts them off and they won't try them.
 
Who cares?

If the name puts you off, then you aren't the type who should be trying research chemicals anyways. Quit trying to sell this stuff.

These street names (versus the vaguely consistent *ocins) are inconsistent and useless. They add nothing, and can actively obstruct clear knowledge.

There is no obligation for you to disseminate these compounds to a wide audience - in fact, there is a rather strong incentive for you not to. If they want to try it and have researched it, fine - but pushing this stuff on people with a cutesy name is idiocy and a quick route to exposing yourself to significant risk.
 
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If the name puts you off, then you aren't the type who should be trying research chemicals anyways.
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I definitely agree.

These certainly aren't layman-friendly compounds, they aren't like LSD where you can eat 100 hits and come down a week later absolutely fine -- these compounds are very dose-sensitive and can really injure someone if misused.

You really need to know what you're doing to fuck around with this stuff; and dare I say, you need to be at least somewhat quick-witted, smart, and willing to take the initiative to even be able to find these compounds right now -- which I personally think is a very good thing.

Perhaps it seems like my view of people is a bit cynical in this regard; but that's not really the case. Its just that most people are not well-researched in this particular area of the psychedelic pharmacopeia, and the psychedelic status quo so-to-speak is that psychedelics are extremely safe even when dosed very large (like LSD, or even MDMA to an extent). But its just not the same with the unresearched phenthylamines and tryptamines.
 
Besides, calling these drugs with slang names is very dangerous..
what if someone tells you "hey I´ve got somo "Bromo", and you take a dose thinking it´s 2C-B, only to realize later that it´s Bromo-Dragonfly or DOB?
 
I agree with the words of caution, but there are two ends of the spectrum that cause
confusion. One end is the full chemical name or direct abbreviation of it, which can be TOO
similar perhaps even for people with knowledge of chemistry. I've heard it happen to the
best of us that someone misreads a label, now thats a stupid thing to do since you need
to pay attention when handling these substances but just 1 letter in the jumble of 5-MeO-MiPT
can make a difference.
The other end of the spectrum is probably of more concern where people use slang terms that have nothing to do with the original compound name.
I've never heard of the term Bromo by the way, just bromomescaline which is fairly accurate
I guess. But 2C's have a pretty simple name and they end with emphasis on the distinguishing part, who needs more pretty names except for when you're selling a chemical substance as if it were a product especially intended for human consumption by anyone who likes to imbibe something that "sounds wicked"...

Keep the right intention which is clarity and pronouncability and naming something relevant to the chemical makeup.\

You plan on adding empathogens to this list by the way?
 
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First off, NO I am not dealing these things. :p

I'm just trying to expand my friends' range of experiences. The only time they would dose these things is with me, and I do know how to use them properly. The doses are scale measured and care is taken. It's just that because of the stigma that surrounds the name and the unknown-ness of them inhibits them from even trying them even with me doing the safety stuff.

I guess the fact that they aren't the type to go online and research them is enough to warrant the fact that they wouldn't appreciate the state they provide anyway. They don't like psychedelics in general but were willing to try mushrooms. They'd rather drink than feel psychedelic joy so I guess I'm just trying to impose my beliefs on my social circle, expand their awareness and improve their lives to some extent... Bad me.
 
benzylpiperazine- Nemesis

tenocyclidine-Devil's dust (I've heard called such a few times...most likley because its even weirder and more likley to cause batshit insanity then phencyclidine)
1-(1-(2-Thienyl)cyclohexyl)piperidine being the IUPAC
 
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