MDPV Megathread 2 - Moderate Dosing Prevents Vitiation

[Ceres]

Didn't you write off mephedrone as a 'boring, worthless' drug recently too - contrary to many other peoples experience? I don't know man, I'm thinking set and setting....I just find it really odd you say you coped with heroin and other things but seem to be building mdpv and mephedrone into the devil drugs.

I'd just had enough of mephedrone, I like experimenting with drugs just for the experience and found I was no longer getting anything out of it other than a habit of taking it every weekend....

MDPV just seems to me to have a uniquely high potential for unpleasantness that I've never come across before, as I've said all things considered after less than a week of using it a few times I'd already decided it wasn't something I wanted to use again.

Isn't it the case that the white stuff going around now is almost certainly not MDPV anyway?

 

[Ceres]

Anyway I fully accept all the responsibility for my own actions, it's just the first substance that I've ever been out of my depth in, nevermind quite so quickly, and don't worry I've learned some serious lessons as a result.

 

[fastandbulbous]

I guess I just find it a bit fiendish, but that's about it. It doesn't feel toxic,

Peevee is remarkably physically non toxic considering it's potency. As I've mentioned, I've heard about heavy coke users going through up to 400mg in one night and one off doses in the 50/60mg range. Strange word to use, but it is pretty much physically benign. Psychologically though, it's the ricin of the stimulant world as it can lead to people not even knowing where they are etc. The bloke who is actually responsible for this becoming widespread told me he opted for the methylenedioxy derivative as it was the least toxic/highest theraputic ratio, despite requiring awkward starting reagent! )

 

[MrM]

The bloke who is actually responsible for this becoming widespread told me he opted for the methylenedioxy derivative as it was the least toxic/highest theraputic ratio, despite requiring awkward starting reagent! )

If this is true, could that explain why newer batches (not made by this guy or using his slightly trickier better method) aren't having the same effect?

Anyway, at least what I've ended up posting in this thread in the last week really is in the spirit of this board and ought to strengthen the message that care really does have to be taken with MDPV...

As someone without much experience with stimulants i'm going to be rereading that post of yours several times before i try this stuff (if i try this stuff). Thanks for sharing the info.

 

[TheSpade]

Sounds nasty Ceres. Don't listen to folk giving you a hard time over what you did and didn't tell the docs, you were having a majorly bad time and a crazy panic attack you did what you needed to do. I think most folk would do the same.

I hope to fuck you never told them it was mdpv. Let's not get that media ball rolling. If it does, its people like you who are responsible.

Oh no not your precious drugs.

I hope he did tell them, you need to be straight with doctors in situations like this. He was having an horrific experience clearly. No need to try and make him feel worse than he already by blaming him for what is inevitable anyway.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Sounds nasty Ceres. Don't listen to folk giving you a hard time over what you did and didn't tell the docs, you were having a majorly bad time and a crazy panic attack you did what you needed to do. I think most folk would do the same.



Oh no not your precious drugs.

I hope he did tell them, you need to be straight with doctors in situations like this. He was having an horrific experience clearly. No need to try and make him feel worse than he already by blaming him for what is inevitable anyway.

Read all the replies before you start making a prat of yourself (again).

 

[Ascii]

Wow, the beigey good stuff really degrades over time, even in air. I left 20mg in two very large capsules (10mg each) at home and when I came back four months later it hardly had any effect. And this was the real nice batch too, the stuff where just 5mg is more than enough, and makes you super horny. It also had lost its aphrodisiac qualities, did the 20mg in a coupla hours and just felt mildly stimulated.

I found this a few pages back and I've got to agree. I purchased some tan coloured MDPV in November 2008 which was good stuff, 10mg created a great subtle, stim high. When I came back to the PV in March 2009, a 10mg line did very little and even a 25mg line felt like some aspects of the high had been lost; less stimulation with more of the negative side-effects.

If MDPV is degrading this quick, is this from light, heat or something else? Is this an acid style jobby? (Wrapped in foil and stuck in the freezer)

And how come there's so little on it degrading like this? Is this maybe down to a specific batch or is everyone scranning theirs down too quick to notice!

 

[Riklet]

I've had some PV since October last year and i'd say it's just as strong as ever; been kept stored in a baggy in the dark, if anything it feels stronger cos I know what to expect now from a dose and I don't do as much as the first time I tried it. If it has degraded at all, then it's not to a significant level as far as I can tell?

Would definitely think keeping it sealed in the dark is the best idea though. Hmm I feel fortunate I haven't gone too overboard with the PV, although I get quite tempted to indulge at the moment. Bah... :D

Definitely agree that when people fuck up with drugs (no matter what the situation) it's best to be as honest as possible with doctors and such like, although I know you weren't saying the opposite SHM Play safe peoples.

 

[bogman]

has anybody here used mdpv with any other drugs,plus what drugs should you not mix with it

 

[TheSpade]

Read all the replies before you start making a prat of yourself (again).

I've read all the posts but in your first one on this page you were clearly giving him a hard time. You appeared to be more worried about your precious drugs getting banned than Ceres health & well being.

 

[TheSpade]

We can't all be as perfect as him I guess. :D

Only joking SHM, you really.

 

[MrM]

I've read all the posts but in your first one on this page you were clearly giving him a hard time. You appeared to be more worried about your precious drugs getting banned than Ceres health & well being.

So you end up in hospital. I hope to fuck you never told them it was mdpv. Let's not get that media ball rolling. If it does, its people like you who are responsible.

No you're absolutely right and once at the hospital that is what I would expect you to do. By now you were in a position where you wanted to do everything possible to help yourself (by giving the doctors correct information).

It did seem like that's what he was doing, then he backpedaled slightly in the next post.

 

[TheSpade]

I know, I read all the posts and I am aware that he changed his stance. He even said in the first post he was glad Ceres was OK so it's not like he's no heart at all but it came across as a bit harsh.

Anyway lets not keep this going.

 

[Ceres]

So you end up in hospital. I hope to fuck you never told them it was mdpv. Let's not get that media ball rolling. If it does, its people like you who are responsible.

TBH I've been thinking about this all day.

NSFW:

You need to remember that everyone is fallible and sometimes there are occasions in life where, regardless of knowledge and experience and forethought and intentions, unxepected things happen which are simply beyond your control.

I'm not a naive guy, or a drug naive guy, I'm not the type of person who takes drugs to get "fucking wasted", I've outgrown club and party culture, I've always rated aldous huxleys approach and think terence mckenna and tim leary were dickheads who caused immeasurable harm to our cultural integration of psychoactive substances and spawned a decades-long skidmark of utter fuckwits that to this day continue to give drugs a bad name - it's not "people like me" who are responsible for media or government awareness of research chemicals.

You mentioned my disdain towards mephedrone. Who is really responsible for the media and government awareness of it? The people, as reported in the press, who have presented themselves to the health services with addiction or psychosis? Or in the case of GBL, the people who have died? These substances are getting out there in widespread circulation and like it or not, causing actual, tangible damage. Keeping it all shushed up is not an option anymore when these things are being openly sold to the uninitiated general public.

Sorry, this is the first time I've ever had a go at anyone on here, but your position is completely untenable, you proselytize about harm reduction but are clearly motivated by immature self-interest.

What was your own experience of MDPV?

 

[MrM]

In a perfect world where all drugs were legal, people would still sometimes make mistakes, take too many drugs and end up in hospital. When this happened they would tell the doctor what they'd taken and how much (if they could) and the doctor would treat them accordingly.

Most drugs aren't legal but i'd still act as if they were if i ended up in hospital.

 

[Tryptamite]

think terence mckenna and tim leary were dickheads who caused immeasurable harm to our cultural integration of psychoactive substances and spawned a decades-long skidmark of utter fuckwits that to this day continue to give drugs a bad name

Too fucking right!

On the mdpv topic, despite being aware of the risks I chased a very very small amount on foil this evening to aid with cramming for an exam. It tasted absolutely sick, but got the job done. I didn't smoke much so it was a subtle high, but I am now fairly wired and this is about 2 hours after my last dose. Time for a valium and bed I think, have to be up at 8

 

[rangrz]

My GF managed to crash horribly bad from last night. It was pretty rough...actaully, I've never seen a soldier who died with more a fuss and crying.

however, once she finally took a bit of benzos and some fluids...into bed, and no biggie, hell, we're back on it, and its awesome.

 

[Dxmmonster]

Hi guys, Theres a music fest coming up and me and some buddies are thinking of dosing MDPV.

What are somethings I should watch out for?

Like, what's the best method of dosing?

From a single dose, how long will the high last and when will I start crashing?

I have experinece with coke, meth, methylphenidate and methcathinone, which one of these does it feel like?

Also, how long would the crash last if I were to stay tweaked on this stuff for around 12 hours?

Thanks for any information.

 

[rangrz]

meth ime...12 hours, it shouldnt even be bad.

 

[icancu2k]

Too fucking right!

On the mdpv topic, despite being aware of the risks I chased a very very small amount on foil this evening to aid with cramming for an exam. It tasted absolutely sick, but got the job done. I didn't smoke much so it was a subtle high, but I am now fairly wired and this is about 2 hours after my last dose. Time for a valium and bed I think, have to be up at 8

Hmm, wish I'd done that! 'last' dose at 8.00pm, ut decidedto do a bit of work, watch some porn, and pull another all-nighter.

Fantastic chem, as long as you're careful with redosing! smaller and more often I find is better (i.e. 3mg vaped/45 mins as opposed to 5mg oral every 90/120 mins)

I had to drown my sorrows at Sunderlands' disgrace of a performance last night n some sort of way!1