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The Big & Dandy Salvia Thread - Second iteration

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Salvia 10x HELP!

So I only found recommended doses for 5x online. Tried searching a bit.. could someone just tell me how much is a good dose of 10x extract for a first timer.

P.S. My chakruna and syrian rue are about to arrive. So happy :] going to brew me some ayahuasca.
 
Try 0.1 gram out of a small bong. Inhale deep and hold it for as long as you can.
 
If that doesn't work double it. Add 0.1 grams again if that doesn't work. And so on.

.1-.2 would be about right if it's high quality standardized extract. My 20x would get me about 20 trips out of one gram. So 10x should get you 10 trips.

Have a wild ride, I'm sure you will, salvia is out of this fucking world. My last bongload of 20x ripped my fucking face off.
 
I always just threw a decent pinch into the bowl and smoked til it was gone and it ALMOST never did me wrong.

Merging with the Salvia thread <3
 
nearjat said:
Just picked up a gram of 20x Sally D. I will probably do it tomorrow, will a waterfall bong work well? I'd imagine it'd be very effective. Pretty excited :)
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That should work. Be sure to hold the flame directly on the Sally to achieve maximum combustion (i.e. don't pull the flame away and just let the Sally cherry)
 
Alright, did it tonight actually. I didn't break through but it was really entertaining. I got panicked and anxious, then felt an opiate like relaxation. Still do :)

Had a crazy body effect. Gravity was whirlpooling toward a random point in the room. Typical "not quite there" effects.
 
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The Winner!! said:
It's legal because its scary to most people, probably showing the world "drugs are bad" or some shit. Just my opinion
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Agreed - I've never encountered a drug with less potential for abuse.

Salvia sounds awesome when you hear people talk about it, but when you land in an upside-down universe, experience extreme dysphoria and get stuck with a constant stream of audial and visual loops, all the while oblivious to the fact that you've actually taken a drug, it seems that someone has played a big joke on you. If you're looking for a 'fun' high you may as well turn back.
 
salvia legality...?!

As someone who is considering trying salvia for the first time in the near future, I've read a lot about it, and I am amazed that it is legal.

I guess the question I want to ask is why the fuck can such an apparently powerful and potentially terrifying substance possibly be legal? Like, what aspects of this drug make it safer in the eyes of the law than say, cannabis?! It just seems to me that I'm missing something...?
 
The part you are missing is that it will not be legal for long. Many states have already outlawed it in it's smokable form (In the US).
 
Basically it has, until recently, been relatively unknown. That, and the potential for addiction and abuse is virtually zero. Most people try it and then never want to again... some people even try it and then give up drugs forever. Datura is a plant which causes an extremely dangerous state of delusion that can kill you and cause you to not know what you're doing and get into dangerous situations. It's legal. Legality has little to do with danger in many cases... it's mostly political and circumstantial... that and it's often partially determined by the potential for addiction.

Recently, some kid was depressed, did salvia, and kept journals about it. He killed himself one day and had written in his journal that he was terribly depressed, and salvia showed him that there is more to life than existence as a human, so he wanted to kill himself to move on. The parents found this and (understandably) freaked out, and decided to blame the salvia. So it got some coverage as a "death drug" that "all the kids are doing" that "makes them want to kill themselves". So they're moving to make it illegal (in America anyway... I see you're in England).
 
Myself and a group of friends bought 2 veils of the 30X extract. None of us had tripped on any substance before. We lit up using a butane torch lighter, and burned the whole fuckin' bowl in one pull each (4 bowls in total).

The second I exhaled the hit I was blasted. I laid back into my bean bag and the shapes on the ceiling started resembling stars. In the back of my head I could feel G forces. I knew I was tripping, but it seemed so real, so I just let it play out. Apparently I told my friends that I was blasting off, and yelled at one of them to hurry up and "smoke that shit and get on the space ship before it takes off!"

My friend hit the bowl, and the second he blew it out yelled "I'm coming!" and said something about a happy train and then laid down as well. My trip ended in about 2 minutes, but our sitter(who is VERY experienced) said it was the most intense trip he had witness.

We recorded these trips, but I have yet to want to watch them. I prefer remembering it from my odd recollection. Plus, I don't want to see myself looking like a complete fool.

The fourth time I used Saliva 30X, I was placed inside little big planet, I was a Sack Boy, and my friend was controlling me ( I was watching friends play LBP and hadn't told them I was about to trip, it was fun). The best way to discribe this would be to say that I was RIPPED from my body. I felt like my head may have been connected to the screen, but I had the feeling of being SUPER zoomed in, with my perriferial vision becoming blurred by blackness. It may sound violent (I think salvia is), but it was certainly not unpleasurable. I have yet to have a bad experience, and I have done it numerous times.

I want to try LSD, and wonder how these two drugs stack up against each other.
 
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It's been over a year since I last did Salvia, and I'd be perfectly content to never do it again. There was a period of about a month where I was repeatedly experimenting with some 40x I had bought, and out of maybe 10 trips I only really enjoyed one or two.

the problem with smoking salvia for me is that it's such a profound change in conciousness, and it occurs so unbelievably quick. I know smoking DMT is equally disorientating but I'd still be interested in trying that as from what I've read it doesn't have much of the intensely negative 'mindfuck'-factor that salvia does. Making the decision to smoke some salvia is for me an infinitely harder decision than taking mushrooms or acid, because the harshness of it all- the general effects, the non-existent come-up... it's just too much for my tastes. It's like being slapped in the face.

sort of strange how psychedelics like LSD and mushrooms are illegal in the US while salvia, which can be just as if not more intense than them, is legal (at least for now). probably not for long though.
 
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Have any of you guys used a salvia, or salvinorin, tincture? I've been contemplating trying one and was curious as to ROA's with a tincture. I was thinking sublingual with an alcohol based tincture, but was curious as to the results of others
 
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salvia is fucking crazy. i see know recreational value in it. im like uber sensistve to it and each time i do i experience things and sensations that cant be explained with words in this reality. I kinda think its here just to show you how little you fucking know. But really most experiences were INSANE and uncomfortable. imo
 
any major dude said:
Have any of you guys used a salvia, or salvinorin tincture? I've been contemplating trying one and was curious as to ROA's with a tincture. I was thinking sublingual with an alcohol based tincture, but was curious as to the results of others
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Yes, and it was one of the most terrifying, beautiful and ultimately spiritually satisfying experience I've ever had. One and a quarter hours long, IMO it's the only way to do it. I'm a soft head, so I can get a breakthrough experience with tincture. Many other people report that it doesn't take them deep enough.

Worth a try! =D
 
EntheoDjinn said:
Yes, and it was one of the most terrifying, beautiful and ultimately spiritually satisfying experience I've ever had. One and a quarter hours long, IMO it's the only way to do it. I'm a soft head, so I can get a breakthrough experience with tincture. Many other people report that it doesn't take them deep enough.

Worth a try! =D
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I've been planning on it for sometime now, what route of administration did you use? I'm a bit of a softie when it comes to salvia as well. What dosage did you use?
 
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