The Big & Dandy Salvia Thread - Second iteration

[Changed]

I fail to see how smoking Salvia from a joint would be effective or enjoyable... this isn't something that I smoke to catch a little buzz- I'm going straight for a brain-rattling mind fuck- and nothing in between.

 

[Shambles]

^ It's effective if you like the inbetween. Or if you just like a fairly subtle lift.

 

[Changed]

^ It's effective if you like the inbetween. Or if you just like a fairly subtle lift.

maybe I just don't know anything about the in between state :D

I can't imagine anything between stone sober, and hammer-over-the-head stoned.

 

[Shambles]

Ya, it's on odd one for sure, Changed. I only really do it with good quality 60X cos I've had nothing but horrific experiences smoking straight in a bong. In a joint it's a much more mellow and long-lasting experience. Almost closer to oral Salvia in some ways.

 

[Changed]

Ya, it's on odd one for sure, Changed. I only really do it with good quality 60X cos I've had nothing but horrific experiences smoking straight in a bong. In a joint it's a much more mellow and long-lasting experience. Almost closer to oral Salvia in some ways.

I've never tried oral salvia either... I bet it would be pretty enjoyable.

 

[Shambles]

It is indeed very enjoyable, Changed. Much easier to integrate than smoked Salvia. Very mellow - more so than smoked even in a spliff. Oral tinctures can be so subtle that it's like a completely different drug. I do believe there is talk of it in this very thread (and no doubt others too) if you - for instance - search "oral salvia" or similar

 

[whiterabbit115]

Salvia Divinorum Question

I live in Los Angeles and recently purchased a gram of Salvia Divinorum 60x from a headshop. I have tried Salvia before twice at two different parties. As I did not purchase it either of those times I have no idea how much a dose is. How many trips do people generally get out of a gram of 60x? I'd rather the doses be on the mild side. I know according to the rules of this forum you are not supposed to ask how much or if you should take anything but Salvia is legal in California so I dont think I am breaking any laws by asking.

 

[safety]

I've never used 60x, but a gram of 20x got me about 15 strong trips. 60x, if it is indeed that powerful, should get you between 40 and 60 trips IMO.

Substances affect everyone differently, however, so YMMV (your mileage may vary)

The best way to use salvia is with a torch lighter out of a smallish bong, IMO. It may be easy to use too much or too little when dosing with 60x. You'll have to see how it works out for you. Use a tiny bit to begin with (like the size of a match head) and go up from there.

 

[swilow]

^Torch lighter unnessecary.

Thats all.

 

[therapture]

If that "60x" is REALLY a standardized extract, then a gram of it is easily 36-40 trips for most people. For instance, with a true 20x I get around here, I dose with 1/12g and that is enough to get me 2 lung fulls with no coughing, then I say goodbye to consensual reality for a bit...

As noted, you DO NOT need a torch lighter, butane cheapos work fine. Just use a small bong, pull steadily but not hard, and keep the flame on the material until you burn it all in one session. Hold your first lungful for 10-15 seconds, exhale, then clear the bong. Set everything down in case you "go out". It happens that fast if you smoked the salvia properly. I like to toss a couple teaspoonfuls of vanilla extract into the water of the bong, it flavors the salvia nicely and smooths things out.

The trick for salvia is finding your proper dose that makes you go deep enough to "conk out" a bit, but you will remember EVERYTHING about the trip in your head. I DO NOT like the conscious salvia effects. It's a fine line, if you take too much, you go out and won't remember anything hardly. Too little, you stay completely awake, confused, and the body load is heavy. Find that razor sharp line and it's a magical plant.

 

[*Love*Lite*]

experiment around with it till you find the proper dose for you you've got PLENTY there

Merging

 

[Chronic*LSD]

Need honest opinion about salvia.

Hello, I am new to the community.

I am a person, who only uses drugs that are derived from plants or other growing products. IE LSD and such.

I am 6'5 and 230 Pounds.

This was my first time using salvia ( I have used many other Psychedelics many many times. I use some sort every weekend may it be Peyote to Mushrooms.

Tools = Jet Lighter / 3 foot bong.

Anyways, I was in a forest with 3 of my friends. We recently purchased a gram of 10x Salvia.

We all divided the bag using our scale and weighed .25 each hit.

We found a tree stump and let the person tripping sit on it. ( It was raining )

First up is S.
He takes his toke and passes Z the bong.

Just laughs uncontrollable.

We wait another 10 minutes for him to gain some self control

I go next.

After I used the shot on the bong, I decided I needed to inhale more.
After I inhaled I just blacked out. I was in a completely different world, No body control nothing, everything was fucked up, I didn't even know who I was. Objects around me didn't look different, I was sereosly just in some waked dream.

Then I come back to consciousness. My friend P is looking me in the eyes saying " are you ok " I say what the fuck? Im lying on the ground chewing on some shit in my mouth ( Dirt or somethin )

My friends told me I looked at them, spoke alot of random gibberish

" Guh Cheaccc babehsnfjaii"

Then just collapsed off the stump onto the ground, with my eyes closed.

But the entire time in my head shit was going on.




Why was I the only one to pass out?
Everybody else just laughed there asses off. ( Not at me when they where on salvia )

 

[Shambles]

Hi, Chronic. Welcome to BL and PD. I've edited your post to remove the name of the place you acquireed your salvia and something else best not admitted to on a public forum.

Salvia is a very odd drug indeed. Many people don't get much of an effect at all when they first use it - I certainly didn't. Seems to need to be "learned" for some folks to get the full effect. Also, some people have a fun, comic-book style experience whilst others are sent to nightmare worlds. Personally, I have blacked out several times when using Salvia - and often come to in the middle of acting out some deeply worrying behaviours. For my money, Salvia is the single freakiest drug on earth.

Also, please don't bump your own thread five minutes after posting it - this is a message board, not an IM chat

Gonna merge this with the Salvia thread - have a read through to get a ton of info on this plant. Can assure you that your reaction is far from unusual :D

 

[SwingBreed]

You took two hits.

if you go here then scroll down to "the SALVIA Experiential Rating Scale" there's a common 6-point system used to separate the varying levels of intensity of a Salvia experience. imo it's about as helpful as any 6-point system can be for any psych, but it still may answer some of your questions simply.

I have never laughed on Salvia.

 

[Changed]

I am a person, who only uses drugs that are derived from plants or other growing products. IE LSD and such.

:D

 

[safety]

I am a person, who only uses drugs that are derived from plants or other growing products. IE LSD and such.

If you're going to consider LSD plant derived, then you can consider almost any drug plant-derived.

Edit: I mean not ANY drug, but cocaine, heroin, marijuana, mushrooms, alcohol, DMT... etc etc etc. There's quite a few

 

[Black]

If you're going to consider LSD plant derived, then you can consider almost any drug plant-derived.

Edit: I mean not ANY drug, but cocaine, heroin, marijuana, mushrooms, alcohol, DMT... etc etc etc. There's quite a few

don't forget drugs like meth and mdma. these are at least as much plant derived as lsd is.

@chronic
many people react differently to salvia. maybe you smoked more efficiently than your friends. your experience sounds about as intense as my first time with salvia.

 

[the_tripper]

saving incase of ban

yeah im planing on saving a couple grams, 20 of salvia incase something happens

will a cool dark place like a shoebox work

and how long can the extract be saved for?

 

[junglist15]

^ i've heard it can be stored for years, and still be effective.

 

[safety]

yeah im planing on saving a couple grams, 20 of salvia incase something happens

will a cool dark place like a shoebox work

and how long can the extract be saved for?

Save it in a cool dark place as you said, and you also want it to be as airtight as possible. The less air = the better