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Keep your head up Paranoid Android!I know how difficult it can be, being a heroin addict myself.:\

Heroin is definately whole other level of addiction. I never understood it until I became one. I would always say,"I just dont get it.What makes it such a hard drug to quit?"And then once I became addicted to it and went through withdrawl I IMMEDIATELY understood the power of it and the grip it has on you.You dont know need and craving until you are a junky in withdrawl.

People that have never been through heroin addiction just have no clue and never will unless they experience themselves.

People say meth is the worst drug on earth and in some ways, it is. What it does to your looks and your mind is unlike anything I've seen before.But what heroin does to your soul and your life makes it the worst drug on the planet.When you have a sincere and truthful junk habit, there isn't anything you wont do to get a fix so you never have to feel the sickness.

I'm sober now,been on suboxone for 4 months and on an outpatient program.Although I do miss doing dope and the high, I dont miss the lifestyle it entails(hanging out with really shady people,owing dealers money,having to go to god awful neighborhoods to score)or waking up everyday feeling like shit.

Although, I still wake up and feel like shit.It's amazing what depression does to your body and mind.:(
 
One thing i am glad for is not hitting the needle. The thought has crossed my mind a million times and i even had a dilaudid shot prepped and all but i squirted down into my mouth before i spiked a vein. I remembered a promise i made to a friend and i really don't want to break that promise.

Sadly enough i am running out of reasons to not take the final plunge into oblivion. Ive never run into any serious problems with opiates before (certainly not compared to alcohol) but no doubt a IV dilaudid habit would wreck me. Not to mention how unhealthy shotting pills really is. Ive known guys to shoot dilaudids, oxycontins and even mscontins and i wonder how the hell they are still alive and have both arms.

A guy i met who was getting his methadone at the same pharmacy i was getting my morphine at told me his lungs and heart where all fucked up from years of IV drug use. I suspect he must have been shooting coke too (probably the number one IV drug of abuse here) all the same for his heart to get messed up that fast. He wasent my age even. Sad cause he seemed a nice enough guy.

Im getting the first symptoms of withdrawal now since i took my last dose of morphine about 12 hours ago. The sweating and that ol faithful cold burn is on my back. But the clonazepam, gabapentin and the can of guiness i just drank is keeping it down to a minor annoyance. No more beer for tonight as ive got lots of benzos and some sleeping pills so i don't need it. Plus waking up with a hangover and dopesick sucks really bad.

Im sorry your feeling so depressed miss holliwood. I know what thats like believe me. Ive gone through about 4 or 5 month long depressive episodes and they are awful. Hang in there and if you ever want to talk hit me up via PM.
 
Heroin. Heroin. Heroin. Heroin. H-E-R-O-I-N.

It's been ALL i've been able to think about for the past few weeks.(I've been on suboxone for 4 months now)

I'm supposedly going with my cousin Friday to go cop, so today is the "stop taking suboxone and feel like shit so I can get high in 48 hours" day.

And tomorrow is my court sentencing.I know I'm getting probation for at least a year, but I'll find out if it's gonna be active or inactive.

I hate to say this, but I've been getting these thoughts in my head to save most of my subs(and just take like the bare minimum per day, like 2-4 mgs...I already have like 20 extra subs)and use all the time but then a couple days before my doctor or probation test me,just pop the subs and clean my system out. I know its a pain in the ass but honestly i'm over being sober.

I know i'm gonna get a bunch of those "don't give up" type replies to this but you know how it is...when you get to that "point" where your sick of putting all your effort in getting your life back together just to be in the same place you were when you first got clean or hell, even BEFORE you got clean...being nothing and having nothing. No money, no job, no friends, no car, no life....just stuck at home with my lame ass parents everyday.I'm to the point that I can't take it anymore! I'M GONNA EXPLODE IF I DON'T GET A HIT OF DOPE! If my cousin dicks me over friday I'm takin a fuckin bus down to the hood to cop, I don't even care.

Oh, and some weed would be nice but thanks to the pigs/probation I dont get any of that.

God i'm so stressed and nervous. Sentencing tomorrow. The big "judgement day".

Don't tell me you wouldnt want a hit too!

Oh, and in group today at my suboxone doctor...all these addicts that have become little "couples" always have some "look on the bright side of life" bullshit to say. All I can say to that is...

IT'S EASY TO BE PHILISOPHICAL WHEN YOUR BALLS DEEP IN PUSSY!WE'LL SEE HOW HAPPY YOU ARE IN YOUR SOBRIETY WHEN THE BITCH DUMPS YOU!I'M DOING THIS ALONE, I DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY DICKIN ME DOWN EVERYDAY TO HELP ME FORGET HOW MUCH MY LIFE SUCKS! KISS MY MOTHER FUCKIN ASS!

So easy to be smug when some other cunts life is shite!

Sorry....rambling...had a bad day.

Thanks Paranoid Android for your kind words, I really need them today. I'm so over trying my hardest to do this stupid fucking sobriety bullshit that is suposed to make my life SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better. Yeah, I dont see it getting better one fucking bit. I just wish it would :(
 
^^ I wish I could convince you to not go do that with your cuz' on Friday, but once you set a day in your brain, and then bam it's in front of you, you're gonna do it.
I can say, hang in there, don't do it, I relate to your posts a lot, but you're still not gonna listen. :(
 
^^ I wish I could convince you to not go do that with your cuz' on Friday, but once you set a day in your brain, and then bam it's in front of you, you're gonna do it.
I can say, hang in there, don't do it, I relate to your posts a lot, but you're still not gonna listen. :(

Thanks man. You know how it is. I mean hell, depending on what happens tomorrow at court my plans for friday might be ruined depending on "when i have to report to my first probation meeting"and piss in a cup like i'm a 12 year old.

i see drugs like this...if I want to fuck up my body and my life thats my choice. hell i didnt rob anybody or hurt anybody to get my fix. i sold my own fuckin body....i hurt MYSELF. and i have a right to do that if i want to.i got busted prostituting(it was a sting...and they went WAY TOO FAR in their effort to get me. They should have came into the room as soon as the decoy handed me money but instead they busted the door down when WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING SHIT. WRONG WRONG WRONG. Ok, I did what I did and I got in trouble for it. BUT, they let the situation go WAY TO FAR. They took advantage of the situation and literally FUCKED me. In more ways than one.)Thats what I'm going to court for tomorrow.I had rigs and spoons on me too. So I was charged with prostitution and posession of a hypodermic needle. I hadn't scored my dope yet and THANK GOD because then I would have had a dope charge and I would have been in a lot more trouble. But it also sucked because I was already really dope sick when i got to the hotel, had to mess around with that NASTY SMELLY COP(they could have used a better decoy)and then go to jail and through all that shit while getting more dope sick.

i know i sound irrational and insane today. i'm just having one of those days.:(
 
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Damn. One helluva story. Look how low heroin made you stoop though... do you want to go back to the thing that caused that?
And yeah, I don't believe in most law punishments (had my fair share as well), just hope you get an understanding judge and you have a good lawyer... sounds like you have plenty of shit going on in your life right now you don't want to add heroin addiction into it again, especially after being four months sober.
Today might be one of those days you feel like shit, but it'll pass. Trust me. Everything will get better for you eventually, good luck. PM if wanna talk.
 
It is your choice for sure. But you've been down that road, you know whats gonna happen if you go to cop on Friday.

If you do, you should just get enough to get high once and have that be it. Don't grab a bunch so you get high Friday then have some left over for Saturday then you wanna go get more and the vicious cycle begins again.

You have what, 4 months clean? Why throw all that away to get high for a few hours? But shit I know how it is once you get it in your head. I wish you well.
 
Heroin. Heroin. Heroin. Heroin. H-E-R-O-I-N.

It's been ALL i've been able to think about for the past few weeks.(I've been on suboxone for 4 months now)

I'm supposedly going with my cousin Friday to go cop, so today is the "stop taking suboxone and feel like shit so I can get high in 48 hours" day.

And tomorrow is my court sentencing.I know I'm getting probation for at least a year, but I'll find out if it's gonna be active or inactive.

I hate to say this, but I've been getting these thoughts in my head to save most of my subs(and just take like the bare minimum per day, like 2-4 mgs...I already have like 20 extra subs)and use all the time but then a couple days before my doctor or probation test me,just pop the subs and clean my system out. I know its a pain in the ass but honestly i'm over being sober.

I know i'm gonna get a bunch of those "don't give up" type replies to this but you know how it is...when you get to that "point" where your sick of putting all your effort in getting your life back together just to be in the same place you were when you first got clean or hell, even BEFORE you got clean...being nothing and having nothing. No money, no job, no friends, no car, no life....just stuck at home with my lame ass parents everyday.I'm to the point that I can't take it anymore! I'M GONNA EXPLODE IF I DON'T GET A HIT OF DOPE! If my cousin dicks me over friday I'm takin a fuckin bus down to the hood to cop, I don't even care.

Oh, and some weed would be nice but thanks to the pigs/probation I dont get any of that.

God i'm so stressed and nervous. Sentencing tomorrow. The big "judgement day".

Don't tell me you wouldnt want a hit too!

Oh, and in group today at my suboxone doctor...all these addicts that have become little "couples" always have some "look on the bright side of life" bullshit to say. All I can say to that is...

IT'S EASY TO BE PHILISOPHICAL WHEN YOUR BALLS DEEP IN PUSSY!WE'LL SEE HOW HAPPY YOU ARE IN YOUR SOBRIETY WHEN THE BITCH DUMPS YOU!I'M DOING THIS ALONE, I DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY DICKIN ME DOWN EVERYDAY TO HELP ME FORGET HOW MUCH MY LIFE SUCKS! KISS MY MOTHER FUCKIN ASS!

So easy to be smug when some other cunts life is shite!

Sorry....rambling...had a bad day.

Thanks Paranoid Android for your kind words, I really need them today. I'm so over trying my hardest to do this stupid fucking sobriety bullshit that is suposed to make my life SOOOOOOOOOOOO much better. Yeah, I dont see it getting better one fucking bit. I just wish it would :(


Haha man oh man, I been there. I mean damn, I can remember sitting in this exact same spot with heroin on the mind and making similar types of posts/having similar thoughts. Kinda scary actually.


2 things I will say:

1) IMO, it's not any easier stopping or getting clean when you're in a relationship.

My second round with suboxone, first time getting it prescribed though, had me going 14 months on sub and close to another 4 months away from smack.

Was single the entire time, from H -> sub -> sober! (what?!) -> H.

I've been in a great relationship for just over a year and I've fucked up so many times. I have perfectly fucking good reasons to stop, but they only sink in so deep I guess.

Already stopped using H and suboxone in this relationship 8) (third time for each) and I'm having a very hard time doing it for the fourth time. :\


2) It's not going to make anything better.
 
most unhelpful to someone who needs help - not exactly the spirit of TDS

I think I would want to be sober if I had more reasons to be, but I don't. I dont have a signifigant other or a child to take care of, or even any friends anymore.

When I first got sober I really wanted to get sober, and I was looking forward to living a happier and healthier life. It's almost 5 months later and NOTHING in my life has changed or gotten any better. I feel more depressed than I EVER did when I was using, I have no job, and now that I'm not using anymore(i can't even smoke pot cuz of probation)none of my old friends want to hang out with me, and all the new people I meet are druggies. Its not until you quit doin drugs that you realize how many people actually DO them...and now that you don't do them anymore you don't know where you belong in the world. I feel like there is ME and then the REST of the world. I dont know. this is my first time ever really trying to be sober after being a drug addict for 16 years. It's not easy just to go full speed ahead on the highway and then slam on the breaks. and it wasn't even just the DRUGS...it was the lifestyle that I lived. I was a prostitute for a long time, so I dont even know how to go back to the 9-5 misery job shit and get paid minimum wage. I just have been this way so long I dont know how to change my life. I stopped doing drugs...but that wasn't even the hardest part.

The hardest part is learning how to LIVE MY LIFE. It's like being an infant and learning how to walk and talk. I just dont know how....and its frustrating.:(

I just want to give up, I hate this "straight life." its just not me
 
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It is your choice for sure. But you've been down that road, you know whats gonna happen if you go to cop on Friday.

If you do, you should just get enough to get high once and have that be it. Don't grab a bunch so you get high Friday then have some left over for Saturday then you wanna go get more and the vicious cycle begins again.

You have what, 4 months clean? Why throw all that away to get high for a few hours? But shit I know how it is once you get it in your head. I wish you well.

thanks man, your the best :) i love your post and your a kool ass person! i was hoping you would respond to my post! :)

I only have enough money for like 4 bags so its not gonna be a huge binge or anything. i just wanna get a few bags and get it out of my system. i miss the needle a lot. sometimes i get the urge to just shoot water just so i can see that blood again. us junkies have a blood fixation i think :\

Without a steady sourse of income i couldnt afford a habit. I've used a couple times within the 4 months of sobriety, and it was like a one nite thing. Never went and copped again. I just have so much anxiety and cave in and use every month or so. :(
 
Haha man oh man, I been there. I mean damn, I can remember sitting in this exact same spot with heroin on the mind and making similar types of posts/having similar thoughts. Kinda scary actually.


2 things I will say:

1) IMO, it's not any easier stopping or getting clean when you're in a relationship.

My second round with suboxone, first time getting it prescribed though, had me going 14 months on sub and close to another 4 months away from smack.

Was single the entire time, from H -> sub -> sober! (what?!) -> H.

I've been in a great relationship for just over a year and I've fucked up so many times. I have perfectly fucking good reasons to stop, but they only sink in so deep I guess.

Already stopped using H and suboxone in this relationship 8) (third time for each) and I'm having a very hard time doing it for the fourth time. :\


2) It's not going to make anything better.


Yeah your probally right about the relationship thing, but it does help elevate your mood when your getting laid on a regular basis. I haven't had sex in months...and hell when I did have sex, it wasn't with anybody I wanted to have sex with, they were just my clients.

I haven't had sex with somebody I've wanted to be with or even cared about in a few years. It's really lonley. It makes me feel like there is nobody out there for me.:(

Which is one of the reasons I started doin heroin in the first place.

I've had a dysfunctional and fucked up relationship with a guy for almost 4 years. He's bi-sexual and is a complete fucking headcase, all we would do is get drunk and do drugs and fist fight and argue all night. He only slept with me like twice a year, he used it as his power over me. He later decided he was gay and wanted guys...so you can only imagine the pain,hurt and denial I went through with that...

Thats when I met Miss. Heroin.:|

She cured all my pain,self loathing,hatred,and heartbreak.

He wasn't important anymore.

No no...not at all.

Cuz I had this new girlfriend...this "habit" to maintain.

*ring ring ring*

Hello? What the hell do you want Matthew?

(enter obnoxious bullshit here)

"Yeah, well thats a cute story, you should tell it at parties!8) I don't give a fuck, Like TRUELY. The only thing that matters to me now is dope. See ya."

Click.

And for the first time i really DIDN't GIVE A FUCK.

And it felt good.

Heroin wasn't just an addiction...it was a relationship replacement.

Fucked up eh?:(
 
Yeah your probally right about the relationship thing, but it does help elevate your mood when your getting laid on a regular basis. I haven't had sex in months...and hell when I did have sex, it wasn't with anybody I wanted to have sex with, they were just my clients.

I haven't had sex with somebody I've wanted to be with or even cared about in a few years. It's really lonley. It makes me feel like there is nobody out there for me.:(

You're right, the relationship does really help, quite a lot actually. It's just not a cure-all and using the relationship as a substitute to heroin isn't fair to the other person. It's been something I've been trying to avoid.

Sorry to hear you feel so lonely. I've had periods of feeling like that, thinking I was going to die alone or never meet a girl I actually really genuinely liked. Actually I never really thought I'd meet someone that I really felt connected to, until I met her. <3

Change can happen. It takes time and effort. Lot of ups and downs, but the hopefully the end result will be worth it. :)

Which is one of the reasons I started doin heroin in the first place.

I've had a dysfunctional and fucked up relationship with a guy for almost 4 years. He's bi-sexual and is a complete fucking headcase, all we would do is get drunk and do drugs and fist fight and argue all night. He only slept with me like twice a year, he used it as his power over me. He later decided he was gay and wanted guys...so you can only imagine the pain,hurt and denial I went through with that...

Thats when I met Miss. Heroin.:|

She cured all my pain,self loathing,hatred,and heartbreak.

He wasn't important anymore.

No no...not at all.

Cuz I had this new girlfriend...this "habit" to maintain.

*ring ring ring*

Hello? What the hell do you want Matthew?

(enter obnoxious bullshit here)

"Yeah, well I dont give a fuck. Like TRUELY. The only thing that matters to me now is dope. See ya."

Click.

And for the first time i really DIDN't GIVE A FUCK.

And it felt good.

Heroin wasn't just an addiction...it was a relationship replacement.

Fucked up eh?:(


I could definitely see a relationship having that type of effect. Out of curiousity do you still feel over it when you're away from H or does it bother you more sober?
 
Miss Hollywood, I know exactly where you are at. I have been through the whole being on suboxone and absolutely hating life and only thinking of heroin thing before and am actually still going through it. For me, once I set a date in my head to go score and get high, nothing and no one is going to be able to divert my plans, and I am guessing you are probably the same way. So in that case, like some one said previously, just get enough to get high once, maybe twice. Please don't go out and buy like 10 bags and spend the next few days on a non stop nod. Trust me, once the dope is gone its going to be quite hard to say ok thats enough dope, time to jump back on the subs. So just get enough to get a good shot or two, just to take the edge off. I also want to say that your not alone in feeling like you don't know how to live and be normal. Once you've been strung out on drugs for so many years, like many of us have on here, you don't know any other kind of life. It's like literally learning how to breath all over again. In my situation, my life has revolved around drugs for so long that it was just who I was. The whole hustling up money somehow, and finding a way to the hood, and the whole heroin lifestyle was what kept me occupied and was what I looked forward to everyday. As fucked up as it sounds, I felt like it was my only purpose. So much of my life has been spent being a junkie who cared about nothing but his next fix, that I missed out on a lot of normal experiences and stuff that people do...such as making real true friends and having a job and just normal shit. I have a feeling that this is the same situation your in right now. Just this feeling like your on the outside and you don't know where you belong or what to do. And trust me, I know how fucking hard it is. You literally have to rebuild your life and every aspect of it. Really the only thing you can do is take it step by step and not expect everything to fall into place as quick as you would like. After fucking up our lives for so long, its going to take a good while before things start to fall even half way into place. Just try and find things to keep yourself occupied. My dog is literally my new best friend and I try to keep my mind off heroin by playing with him and taking care of him. I know it probably sounds pretty lame and pathetic, but this dog is really the only thing besides dope that makes me happy at the moment lol. I hope this helps miss hollywood. I know how hard it is. Just keep your head up and know that your better than all this and you can get through it.
 
You're right, the relationship does really help, quite a lot actually. It's just not a cure-all and using the relationship as a substitute to heroin isn't fair to the other person. It's been something I've been trying to avoid.

Sorry to hear you feel so lonely. I've had periods of feeling like that, thinking I was going to die alone or never meet a girl I actually really genuinely liked. Actually I never really thought I'd meet someone that I really felt connected to, until I met her. <3

Change can happen. It takes time and effort. Lot of ups and downs, but the hopefully the end result will be worth it. :)




I could definitely see a relationship having that type of effect. Out of curiousity do you still feel over it when you're away from H or does it bother you more sober?

I'm glad you found somebody that you connect with and that you care about a lot :) everybody deserves that, especially us addicts that seem to be our own worst enemies...we just cant seem to love ourselves.:\

When it comes to mine and Matthew's relationship, i noticed that when I was on H I was more over it(at least I thought I was because I was so high and numb all the time).

I have my ups and downs with it. It was a long and intense relationship. He was the first guy that I was obsessively in love with. He had a lot of power over me. I was under this spell with him, i swear. All my friends HATED him. They would always be the one to have to pick up the pieces at the end of the night when he would start a fight with me and then leave when all the booze and drugs were gone, cuz he KNEW I would FREAK the fuck out because A.) He was leaving and B.)I was drunk and cracked out of my beans and I couldnt take not falling asleep holding on to him. :(

It's fucked up cuz I finally had enough of his bullshit the day I got on suboxone. He called me up and was being an asshole and I was like...

"You Know what, Matthew?! I'm kicking heroin right now and I don't fucking need you and your shit anymore! So just fuck off, lose my number, and leave me the fuck alone! I'M DONE!!!"

And I didn't talk to him for 3 months.

He obsessively stalked my myspace and every once in awhile would leave me a comment or send me a message. Usually something stupid...like a britney spears video or something (he's obsessed with her) but it just showed that he was STILL being all weird and wanting to talk to me and be in my life, and it drove him NUTS that I would NEVER respond.

Well one day, I was feeling very lonley and caved in and responded to one of his stupid comments. We started talking on myspace and then within a few days over the phone. One weekend he called me and said he was on his way to stay with a friend(some guy he was fucking for the weekend)and wanted to know if I wanted to hang out. I invited him to go have dinner with me and my sober suboxone group friends and he said sure. So he picked me up, we went out to dinner, had a good time. We went back to his "friends" house and had some beers and watched movies. I was forced to crash on the futon because we had all been drinking. Not only was I stuck on the couch listening to my ex boyfriend fucking somebody in the other room, I got to be EXACTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY OLD APARTMENT BUILDING THAT I USED TO SIT IN AND SHOOT HEROIN IN ALL DAY LONG AND SELL MY BODY. OH AND RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE I GOT ARRESTED! Talk about ANXIETY!

Anyways, to make a long story short. He dropped me off the next day and not even a couple minutes later his brother (who is my best friend) called me and told me that after Matthew had dropped me off he had called justin(and they aren't on the greatest of terms, they hate each other)and was like "Oh, Holly is still sooo obsessed with me! Me and my friend just fed her compliments all weekend long and she just ate it up!"

Well i confronted him about it and of course he denied it, even though its something he has said about me in the past, hell even WORD FOR WORD. So when i told him to go fuck himself and leave me alone, he tried to pull that same act he used to pull on me but this time I was like...

"you know what matthew?! i'm not all drunk and fucked up on drugs anymore, and its amazing how clearly you see through peoples fucking bullshit! i dont need you, i never did, so go FUCK YOURSELF!"

and I haven't talked to him since. and yeah, i do think about him sometimes and get sad. but for the most part, when i was on heroin I seriously didnt give two fucks about him. i guess you could say i care a lil more now that im sober, but then again i've become so much stronger and realized i dont need his dumb ass! ;)

sorry...im on a rant today! lol ;)
 
firstly ill thank trinidad for editting ur post (u didnt need to do that mate but thanks for the thought) :)

secondly i bid u well, PA - i know how awful it is going without and hanging out and i know wat it does to ur bipolar
u r in my prayers - as u know i care for u very much, ur a gd friend!
and wen i said 'hav a cold one' i didnt mean u! ;)
try marijuana - its awesome for wds....and u know all the other meds

as for the reason they give us the formula of done they give us here (pure methadone and water - which yes, does taste like a CWE!!!!) is cos its less bad for ur teeth than other more sugary formulas
ive got used to swallowing my dose so it goes straight down my throat past my taste buds

now onto holly - hun, plz PM me if u want to talk
dont listen to discouraging posts ppl say
i know u will probly still cop - thats realism i guess, but i really pray u dont cos 4 months is a big achievement

i hate how suboxone is just handed out to ppl in most countries - here as ive said before, we take it daily at a pharmacy/clinic like methadone so were monitored by a case manager/doctor and taken off if were caught skipping doses (cos that obviously means were planning to use)
this gives us more incentive to stay on suboxone and off illicit opioids
see, suboxone sounds like its doing the same thing to u it was doing with me - not holding u and keeping u depressed and hanging out!

there r other options other than scoring
-stay with a clean friend who will ensure u get thru this rough period
-try switching to methadone (i dont feel like using heroin at all on methadone now im stabilised)
-stay with ur parents or something and say 'help'
-try an NA/AA meeting and fuck wat they say about clean time just cos ur on suboxone
after 16yrs on drugs maybe u need to book urself into rehab

hun i used to prostitute myself for heroin too
prostitution is actually legal over here but i was doing it illegally (with gang members)
one night - and if u want to b judgmental anyone i dont give a fuck cos we all know wat heroin wd is like and i had little choice other than go into major wd, i met the dealer and he told me he wudnt give me any heroin unless i went back with him to the gang HQ and....u can guess the rest
so im not going to b hoity-toioty about prostitution

however i will tell u why u shudnt do it wen its illegal (which it shud b really - the rate of STIs has gone down majorly over here since it was legalised)
its cos u risk catching terrible diseases and then in turn passing those diseases on
and im not just talking syphilus which is bad enough - im talking HIV
plz think all this over before returning to that culture

i can identify with wat ur going thru cos ive bn thru it, tho for much less of a long time period
but i want to keep my pride
plz think of how proud u shud feel of wat uve achieved
plz think of ur options other than scoring

i cant talk u out of it - hell i still, despite all my yrs of trying to give up 100%, slip up (fairly regularly these days) on methamphetamine
u say heroin is worse than meth
its no competition
one is no worse than the other
i hate the way meth is dubbed 'the worlds worst drug' cos diffrent ppl hav diffrent drugs of choice
no drug is the worlds worst tho i will always say the 3 most easy to get addicted to (and hardest to give up, plus most damaging to ur body/brain/soul) seem to b meth, crack and heroin
heroin is harder for u to conquer than it was for me - for me meth is almost impossible to conquer

i had ur needle fetish too up till i went on methadone and still do to a certain extent although before methadone i was actually injecting sterile water (from the needle exchange) and since then i havnt injected anything but meth a couple of days ago

there is no methadone for methamphetamine so im going to a relapse prevention course atm to help me steer back on track
but this thread is not about meth so back to ur dilemma

u say a cop caught u with a hypodermic
i dont know about where u r but over here if u carry ur needles/syringes in a bag given to u by the needle exchange (with the words 'this was obtained legally at the ADIO needle exchange' or something along those lines) u cannot b arrested for having them
if this is the case where u r (shud b the case if u hav a needle exchange program) then make sure u always carry that bag with u and u cant b arrested - they even give u a number to call on the bag if u r still arrested
thats for if u continue to use needles - which i hope u dont (for heroin anyway)

one thing that might relieve the cravings to shoot up/needle fixation wud b to continue to buy sterile water (or if its available - even better - saline) from ur local needle exchange (they shud stock it, if not look out for it in shops) and inject that
however if ur veins start to get really fucked up like mine were towards the end and ur finding u cant go into safe places like ur cubital median etc then its time to seek more help

for me its bn drug counselling, relapse prevention program, an intensive outpatient program i did and methadone
all of the above r better than my previous life shooting heroin

yes life is dull without heroin at first
but wen i look back to wat it was like on heroin and i concentrate on wat i hav got going for me now i keep looking one way - ahead

as far as relationships go - u wont hav one if ur a fucked-up junkie and its obvious to evryone, esp if ur prostituting urself
u deserve a nice relationship and that will come
all gd things come to those who wait - at the most unexpected times
the trouble with us addictive personalities is that we find it hard to delay gratification
LEARN - its part of growing up!
uve had yrs of not being able to grow up properly cos uve bn hindered by ur drug use......now wat u said about entering the world as a baby again is right
we r like newborns again wen we clean up
and its not easy to take those first steps

try looking for a hobby that interests u or go to NA/AA meetings - both r excellent ways to meet clean ppl....possibly of the opposite sex!
i met my fiance at detox.....whod hav thought now id b mostly clean (not by NA standards but by my own and by my partners), no longer craving heroin thanks to methadone - a drug id always doggedly refused to go on, engaged and a christian?
it can all happen for u too if u want it to
that or u can go back on heroin

i hope some of my words helped at least a bit - and again im sorry i write so much, ive just grown to care very much for u and i believe deep down u still want to b clean, ur just stuck in a rut

PM me if u want to talk in private and i promise it wont go any further than my eyes <3
 
People say meth is the worst drug on earth and in some ways, it is. What it does to your looks and your mind is unlike anything I've seen before.But what heroin does to your soul and your life makes it the worst drug on the planet.When you have a sincere and truthful junk habit, there isn't anything you wont do to get a fix so you never have to feel the sickness.

Meths ripped out my soul and destroyed my life. They are both evil in different ways. Some people don't like meth, some don't like heroin.. I'm the latter. But meth has destroyed everything about me that was once good. I'll do anything to have a puff - no less than any heroin addict would.
 
^read my post, claire - its bn discussed (briefly) that for diffrent ppl, diffrent chemicals r more addictive than others
this is really not the time for arguments - were on a mission to help holly
meth and heroin hav both ruined my life
thats not the point
can we stick to helpful posts plz?
not getting at u btw, just not the time and place - feel free to post in the meth thread if its getting u down again
 
im sorry u had to go thru having a heroin addict for a parent - that must hav bn hard
having an alcoholic father was hard enough :\
plz dont b sarky with me claire - i suggest u read ALL posts in a thread before replying
some ppl find this a pain in the ass - god knows, i do sometimes but it means we dont hav to 'mind read' as chances r someone else will say wat ur trying to get across!

im fond of u claire, but ur right, those r unhelpful comments
fact is u hav to remember wat i said in the OP since u read the first page - this thread is for giving advice and support and sharing our stories of strength and hope not for arguments, esp with ppl going thru a very vulnerable time
thank u - and gd luck to u hun
 
All good I deleted it - meth makes me say stupid shit. I just need to sleep and I'm going into G withdrawal so sorry about that!
Yeah never revealed this on here (I think?) but my Dad was a heroin addict for 20+ years. 5 years before I was born I believe. This continued until I was 15 when he finally got clean (court ordered..)
There is a memory I can never rid myself of. He brang me to his suppliers place and I sat in the car. When he got out he shot up in front of me and drove home, not before almost flipping the car though.
I remember him on the couch vomiting his guts up countless times ; either trying to get clean or his supply ran out.
But he finally did it. 20 years he was a slave to it. If he can, all you can and I can with my other drugs. This is why I have always stayed away from heroin.
 
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