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Meth/Amphetamines: Serious Discussion Only

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Try and take a day or two off (at least) every week from drinking, though.

It takes a lot of consistent drinking to become physically addicted to alcohol, but once it happens I firmly believe that it has to be the most awful addiction any person can face, both physically and mentally.

Imagine having your drug of choice being available legally anywhere you go. I mean, if heroin were available to me in every restaurant, bar, store, and house I went to I would have been dead long ago, guaranteed.

Just take it easy on the alcohol is all I'm sayin' ;) Don't feel bad about the relapse on meth, it really is a part of recovery.
 
i'm jonesing so hard for a whack at the moment. i've got the resources to go get on as well and it's hard sitting here not acting on it at the moment.

on the positive side i've got the voice in my head telling me "you don't want to turn up and see your brother and his wife and kids all fried up this afternoon"

my brother wouldnt have trusted me 2 years ago to house sit for him overnight, let alone for a week by myself. usually it was my younger brother doing the house sitting.
 
lol, i haven't been to the dentist. i pulled out a tooth by myself that rotted. i should go, but i am scared for what i will hear!
 
Meth and relationship issues are related and I suppose if both issues are entangled both must be unravelled from each other and treated sepatately.

This is going to be hard to do.

Am very pissed off with myself for
1) Degrading myself by accepting that someone I loved can treat me like dirt because I am (8))

2) running back to the gear when fit hits the shan.

But every time fit hits the shan, I run back to it. Tried running physically from facing this. Moving to Bris did help keep it away for the most part. But I can leave Brisbane and go to it.

I am stopping myself from making that journey by making things here more important than getting meth and slamming it into my veins.

I got a pet to play with, some friends to spend time with, a lot of housework and paperwork to do.

I could put all these things off and not do them but the mounting shit to deal with is not good on my little messed up brain.

SORT YOUR SHIT OUT LIZ

SLAP
GOOD. NEEDED THAT.
 
hi everyone,
well i've been struggling with meth addiction for a bit more than five years... i've suffered from an eating disorder (anorexia) for the last ten years and been hospitalized several times for it... i was clean for almost a year and started doing coke a few months ago; it just sort of happened naturally, i went on a week long binge with a friend and then there was no stopping after that. i tried to keep myself from meth and just enjoy the coke highs but of course i started binging and my tolerance went up and it just wasn't enough anymore. in the last couple months i've started tweaking constantly again. i love being high on meth but i crave more the lack of being hungry and losing weight... when i come off it i tend to eat constantly which causes me to use more and more to control my eating... i know that if meth started to make me hungry i would stop using it.
also, last year i switched to smoking heroin and that was when i got clean. ever since i started using meth again i crave heroin like crazy, even when i'm tweaked out. this is driving me insane. i used to think about heroin but it's gotten so much worse now.
not really wanting or seeing a way to stop, i guess i just need to try and tone this stuff down bit, or something. like said above, i don't mind being addicted. i just know that stuff is destroying my body and i'm working around to clock to finance this habit... but i never feel like i want to quit. how did you find the motivation to quit? was it a personal choice or forced by circumstances? i've never quit of my own volition before.
 
I figure if you dont mind being addicted and dont particularly want to get off meth or any other drug, the only choice you have it to control your own use of it in such a way that you only use however much you can afford without working 24/7 or getting sick.

If you can keep it to an enjoyable level, then the status quo is reached. But if not, then you have no option to stop as you will be made to eventually anyway either through getting arrested, hospitalised, losing everything or something worse.

Good luck, but looks like the cycle of addiction will cause you heartache.
 
I'm still alive, also.
I posted that I killed my 2 cats, this never actually happened. It was a manifestation of some sort of amphetamine psychosis coupled with sleep deprivation, apparently I thought the cats 'had anthrax' and would 'kill me and my neighbors'. I awoke to find them safe and unharmed to my absolute relief. Speed kills
 
The problem for me is my lifestyle goes hand in hand with speed.
I'm an adrenaline junkie, I hate sleep, and I love thrash metal like slayer and kreator.
I'm doing well though, I take a rather high dose of dexedrine for maintainence, and handfull of other reasons.
 
Hey, rather than bullshit around or anything I'd rather just have enough respect for everyone to go for the honest route and I hope not to get any lectures altho from skimming this section you guys seem pretty objective.

I am basically addicted to adderall blahblah but I really try to keep it functional/sustainable as something for school as well as recreation. I found that coke/methylphenidate/dari's really just don't seem to do a thing for me in terms of recreation. I really would prefer not to do down the dusty trails of blowing lines of amp, I've been maintaining 40mg oral and abstaining for a periods and doing about 90-120mg oral and still feel like im chasing a dragon that isn't getting me very euphoric at all, but blowing 10-20 I get a blasting rush.

I take l-tyrosine
multivitamins
protein shakes
piracetam/aniracetam
GPC
cognitive function multivitamins
chelated magnesium

when i wanna "Tweak"/have a tweekend I preload with antacids and recently tried baking soda. I crush anywhere from 60-120mg into a fine powder and mix with warm water and drink. It just isn't really that enjoyable very long anymore, if it is enjoyable. Is it just that maintaining a lower dose making getting high much harder? I used to rail much more but on and off every few days, then stopped for 6 months because I was sick of being awake all the time :P oh and in the beginning 30mg xr felt like i was rushing all day, which fucking sucks because the second I went back to trying to enjoy higher doses my tolerance skyrocketed and I can multiply the dose by 4x and barely feel anything just am awake and somewhat fidgety but no mental stimulation or even heart rate or anything. Taking it like im supposed to fucked up abusing it it seems, while only abusing it didnt build a tolerance over 9 months, i took breaks whenever i felt like it, now i feel slower and foggy but never really feel that sharp crisp exhilleration.

oh and what can i do to combat vasoconstriction, my hands are freezing.

oh, i guess i should mention, i cold turkey quit opiates after quitting adderall/coke and have never looked back, i still have leftover opiates in a box, as a reminder that I am choosing not to do this for me, not hiding from it.
the only other drug i take is klonopin, the same dosage for over a year, I don't abuse downers...learned my lesson.
Stimulants actually get me out of bed and stop me from having a counterproductive whirlwind of thoughts ive always had. after a years diagnoses and such, i was diagnosed having mild add and pretty bad depression/motivation and started with wellbutrin (Caused me to go manic and severe headaches) and then adderall, which worked.

ok. time for sleep. hopefully someone has some words of advice if theyve been in a similar situation
 
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Just a quick question, my dealer just gave me a bomb of his speed he was going to save after I had been asking if he could get it for me. Now I have weighed it out, and it's about 90mg worth. He has never taken it before, but he was quiet reluctant about giving me abit of his last stash so I am quite sure he isnt just bullshiting me.

Anyway... I have only taken speed twice before when it was in an MDMA/Speed pill, and I loved it. (http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=12372) Just wondering what kind of a dose I should start with? I am quite tall and about 85kg. I was also wondering what the most effective method of taking the drug would be? Thanks :)
 
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Just a quick question, my dealer just gave me a bomb of his speed he was going to save after I had been asking if he could get it for me. Now I have weighed it out, and it's about 90mg worth. He has never taken it before, but he was quiet reluctant about giving me abit of his last stash so I am quite sure he isnt just bullshiting me.

Anyway... I have only taken speed twice before when it was in an MDMA/Speed pill, and I loved it. (http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=12372) Just wondering what kind of a dose I should start with? I am quite tall and about 85kg. I was also wondering what the most effective method of taking the drug would be? Thanks :)
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What form is it? Powder? Crystal? paste?
 
powder :(

(little side note, he was saying that if he buys base he gets it in paste then something about freezing it then cutting it up? that bullshit or is he actualy making some sence)
 
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meth. when i was in my teens it was popular. it got so bad they had put up bill-boards that said 'speed kills'. lots of my friends did it back then - this was the old school speed - not the ice we have today - i'm not sure how the formula is different - but it was brownish in color and not crystalline and no one tried to smoke it - it was either snorted or injected. i tried it several times IV and always missed and just gave up.
fast forward to 7 years ago
i went to LA to get off methadone. the clinics where i live will not detox you fast enough (a good idea in retrospect to go slow) and i was sick of being on methadone and having to go to the clinic all the time. the clinic in LA only dropped my dose to 5 mil and then let me go - and it was 2 months of torture... then we were introduced to ice... which suprisingly helped my w/d from methadone (maybe because it speeds up your metabolism?) we never smoked it only snorted it. when we did ice we would do nothing but stay in a motel and have sex. this would go on til we were out of money and my bf would have to go hustle to get money to pay the rent and get more speed. then we would start again.
for me whose drug of choice is really opiates - speed was fun - but i can do without it really because i prefer to go down instead of staying awake all the time.
my boyfriend i found out later is extremely bi-polar and supposed to be on lithium - he started getting extremely psychotic and delusional and thinking all the time that i had other lovers or that i was up to something behind his back which was insane since i never went out of the room. at first i thought it was just amusing; but it got to the point where he was violent with me several times and would manifest different personalities - i would have to leave him and go and stay with my mother til he got better.
eventually we had to leave LA to get away from speed.
i actually seemed to get w/d from speed. i mean i would feel sick - (not really opiate sick but maybe it just held off the end of my methadone w/d?) - but just not right if i didn't have it - but so did my bf - the only thing that seemed to help was coffee btw.
we came to texas - which has a lot of speed now too - but at least it is harder to get (you have to know someone) and we tried to get it here - but it ended up being too much trouble and we eventually gave it up.
my bf got back on lithium and feels much better... he does smoke a lot of herb now though...
moral: stay away from speed - esp. if you are bi-polar - it definitely makes you crazy eventually....
djh/texas
 
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Just so you all who are trying to stop ice know,
after a certain time (different depending individual circumstances i think) you start feeling really really good. and you're like, I'm happy, what the fuck? I was talking to my friend about it and he said in rehab they call it the pink fluffy clouds. it's really worth it, I'm on the pink fluffy clouds now, hang in there detox peeps!! (I know 'pink fluffy clouds' sounds like ecstacy jargon, but it's natural high I swear!)
 
I used to work with a girl who used to be massively into crystal, ended up in rehab, etc, the whole nine yards. She was the most insanely happy, outgoing, vibrant, energetic individual I've ever met. If I hadn't known better I'd have thought she was still smoking meth before work, I didn't think anyone could be that upbeat and full of life without drugs. Wish I'd asked her how the hell she does it.
 
Just finished getting over withdrawals from ice. How do I celebrate? By getting back into the lifestyle all over again. See, I'm more addicted to the lifestyle than the drug, of course that helps. No regrets, it's been kept in control and what must go up must go down. Damn.
 
^ Thats my problem. I fucking love this scene.
I was hypnotized by the 'glamour' , cash, power, sex, risk
It's a fucking joke. Everyone is fake.
People dying left right centre here a few years ago. Made it seem more desirable to me, if anything.
Why the fuck do I love it so much?
Some of my friends are dead, from drugs or related. Others are addicts.
It is sad. We are sad. This scene is full of shit and I am over it.
Meth is a fucking joke. It has destroyed me and my family. Anyone who says it should be legal should be fucking burnt to the ground
It may not have physically killed me (not far off though ) but emotionally I am dead

Yes I am drunk and angry and I hate this bullshit
 
Everyone is fake. It's built on a house of fucking cards. It can't support itself and just about everyone you meet is a fucking parasite.

I've met one person out of so many that I can trust. Just one. Who knows if that will last, fuck it, has so far. Regardless, who cares if it is fake? It's a game to me, y'know? Get as high as possible on the pile. Grab the most for yourself and watch people dance for you. It's a power trip if you let it. Sad part is, I don't, but allows others around me to do it. Whatever.

Obviously, I'm still out of it. I hate every drug but this one. I hate just about everyone in this scene, but I love proving to myself that I can beat them at their own fucking games. I'm good at it. Sounds pathetic, huh? It is, but I can't say I hate my life. This can ramble forever. Stop.
 
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