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Codeine Extraction

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Romie1092 said:
Also isnt this stuff ment to be OTC? My local chemist has it on the shelf ready for anyone to pick up.
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It is definitely meant to be OTC. Chemists own tablets (the white ones) are the best as they filter really well. Be careful though, make sure to take long breaks as this is how a lot of people start their addiction off.
 
rolls said:
It is definitely meant to be OTC. Chemists own tablets (the white ones) are the best as they filter really well. Be careful though, make sure to take long breaks as this is how a lot of people start their addiction off.
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Havnt touched the stuff for 3-4 weeks now. Doing a CWE on the Chemist Own (round white pill with a score in the middle and c on the left and e on the right) is it normal for the water to be abit milky? I did try a CWE once and filtered it 2 times with 2 coffee filters but the water wasnt clear and abit on the milky side so I didnt end up trying it.
 
Romie1092 said:
Havnt touched the stuff for 3-4 weeks now. Doing a CWE on the Chemist Own (round white pill with a score in the middle and c on the left and e on the right) is it normal for the water to be abit milky? I did try a CWE once and filtered it 2 times with 2 coffee filters but the water wasnt clear and abit on the milky side so I didnt end up trying it.
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I always use Chemists' Own; and my solution is always somewhat cloudy. I haven't had any problems yet, at the most 2 grams of paracetamol will dissolve in 100ml of water plus whatever particles get through the filter. As long as you keep your use occasional, as it is, then you shouldn't have any worries. :D

<3 Codeine
 
Realistically you're talking 5+ grams of paracetamol to do you any harm, so I generally expect the final solution to be cloudy. As long as there are no visable spots of tablet in it and you filtered it cold with a sensible ammount of water, paracetamol isn't soluble enough to be present in quantities high enough to hurt you.
 
What kind of dose would be a good starting point? I assume I've already got a tolerance of some sort to codeine since I've been taking panadeine (4 - 8 pills a day) daily for the last month or so for some medical issues. But I'm bored, wanna have fun and wanna stay away from street drugs, and the pills are sitting right here, so seems like a good option.

I was thinking maybe 120mg?
 
250-350mg

be aware your cwe will not be 100% efficient (i'd say the first wash removes 50-80% ). pot is a must :)


im not sure if APAP is the same, but when i was abusing nurofen the ibuprofen seemed to have accumulated in my body when taken daily. eg day1 i'd have 1.2g, day2 another 1.2g, but then after eating another 1.2g on day3 i suffered some pretty serious and unpleasant ibuprofen OD symptoms.

have fun and take care :)
 
ahh cool well the only thing I got that can measure that small is a shot glass. I guess 10 tabs per shot glass of water. Best way to wash it down is the mix with cordial im guessing? I know what I had the 80mg dose of tabs, the taste was disgusting, could only imagine the pain trying to swallow the liquid. With a 80mg dose I had tingly skin, felt relaxed with slight sedation, being wrapped up in my blanket never felt so good. Does it get much better with a stronger dose?
 
JimiHawK* said:
250-350mg

be aware your cwe will not be 100% efficient (i'd say the first wash removes 50-80% ). pot is a must :)


im not sure if APAP is the same, but when i was abusing nurofen the ibuprofen seemed to have accumulated in my body when taken daily. eg day1 i'd have 1.2g, day2 another 1.2g, but then after eating another 1.2g on day3 i suffered some pretty serious and unpleasant ibuprofen OD symptoms.

have fun and take care :)
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What do you mean 'pot is a must' ?

You sure about that doseage, I mean yeah I would probably have a tolerance but it seems pretty big. Then again I know my brothers done this before and he said he was taking like 400mg a day at one point, so I guess on the scheme of things it isn't that huge. Most of the guides I've read have recommended 100mg or so, but I guess that's erring on the side of caution.

I'll make sure I don't take any other pills the same day, should help prevent any worries about taking too much APAP.
 
If you've never used it before Id start with 120mg, any bigger dose and you are likely to get a bad histamine reaction which consists of red puffy skin, really hot and generally feeling very ill. You will likely get this kind of reaction after 200mg but start low just in case, if you want to do bigger doses an antihistamine is a must. Diphenhydramine (Benadryl original) and promethazine (Phenergan) are the best, but they cause drowsiness and sedation so keep the doses low.
 
rolls said:
If you've never used it before Id start with 120mg, any bigger dose and you are likely to get a bad histamine reaction which consists of red puffy skin, really hot and generally feeling very ill. You will likely get this kind of reaction after 200mg but start low just in case, if you want to do bigger doses an antihistamine is a must. Diphenhydramine (Benadryl original) and promethazine (Phenergan) are the best, but they cause drowsiness and sedation so keep the doses low.
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I've never extracted and used it recreationally, but I've been taking 4 - 8 panadeine a day the last month or so, which I assume would give a tolerance of sorts.
 
I'd give 250mg a shot then, can I highly recommend you make up a big batch and start using small amounts of that rather than taking 8 panadeine a day, that's got to be extremely hard on your liver. Is this likely to be a long term thing, or only short term?
 
rolls said:
I'd give 250mg a shot then, can I highly recommend you make up a big batch and start using small amounts of that rather than taking 8 panadeine a day, that's got to be extremely hard on your liver. Is this likely to be a long term thing, or only short term?
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No idea, I've got glandular fever as well as a bunch of neck/head/back pain (which we're theorizing is a result of my inactivity while being sick and amplified by the general myalgia of the viral infection). I've been seeing a physio about the neck/head/back pain and he seems pretty confident we can clear that up with a little time and effort, and my GP basically said 'you'll recover from the glandular fever when you do, could be 6 days or 6 months.'

Hopefully when the neck pain clears up I can lower my painkiller intake, but right now it's the only thing that's keeping me somewhat sane.
 
^ Keep in mind that your tolerance will rise if this is long term, and that there is a ceiling dose in place for most people at around 400mg, after which no more morphine can be squeezed out of it by your liver and you will just have an increased histamine reaction.
 
Crankinit said:
What do you mean 'pot is a must' ?

You sure about that doseage, I mean yeah I would probably have a tolerance but it seems pretty big. Then again I know my brothers done this before and he said he was taking like 400mg a day at one point, so I guess on the scheme of things it isn't that huge. Most of the guides I've read have recommended 100mg or so, but I guess that's erring on the side of caution.

I'll make sure I don't take any other pills the same day, should help prevent any worries about taking too much APAP.
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pot = weed. what i mean is that weed synergises very nicely with opiates and i highly recommend you try the combo (assuming you smoke weed of course..) eg if i took 100mg and had a few cones it would feel as good/better than 200mg by itself.


imo ~300mg is a 'normal' recreational dose. This is where you start entering nodland and feel awesome. you'll probably be very itchy so take some benadryl (ive never needed to do this but i find the itch enjoyable tbh) and nausea will be prominent unless your sitting/lying down.


450mg is the generally accepted 'ceiling dose' - where taking more would be pointless as all your enzymes are saturated and you'd just get extra itchy (this is just an average however will vary greatly between individuals)



the other pills you take shouldnt matter unless they are CYP-2D6 inhibitors (google them) in which case you'll barely feel the codeine (CYP-3A4 inhibitors on the otherhand are reported to increase codeines effects, tho ive had mixed results using grapefruit juice)
 
Romie1092 said:
ahh cool well the only thing I got that can measure that small is a shot glass. I guess 10 tabs per shot glass of water. Best way to wash it down is the mix with cordial im guessing? I know what I had the 80mg dose of tabs, the taste was disgusting, could only imagine the pain trying to swallow the liquid. With a 80mg dose I had tingly skin, felt relaxed with slight sedation, being wrapped up in my blanket never felt so good. Does it get much better with a stronger dose?
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As rolls mentioned, phenergan is your friend! I take 25mg but even 5-10mg would help with the histamine reaction. Be careful of drowsiness which "can" last up to 24 hours from it though. Anyother synergistic chem to mix in is a little doxylamine succinate (restavit). Again only a small amount! One or two standard drinks doesn't hurt either (I'll let mr blonde explain the enzyme effect it has).

Remember a little goes a long way, be aware of your limits and don't take too much of anything.

With the chemists own pain tabs, if you're new to codeine then a 24 pack, leaving room for 20% loss during extraction, should be a good dose. As discussed various times throughout the thread any more than ~400mg for most people is a waste and the histamine reaction will be unpleasant enough to wreck the experience.

Take care and don't make it a regular thing.
 
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