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The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

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Oh yeah, forgot to mention though - they played a three hour set!!! Maybe they're not getting *that* old...
 
I ate about a gram of shrooms in line when I saw them last year, just enough to give an undertone of psychedelia, but not so much that I was overwhelmed by the crowd or the intensity of the experience itself.

And those guys aren't old... getting older, yes, but certainly not *old*! :) I love all Ween. Cucaracha is great except for the song Friends. I could really go my whole life not hearing that song again.

Sorry, Ween talk will stop.......................NOW
 
2ce - inducing distortions/OEVS/CEVS

One thing i have noticed, i guess for me this seems to be the major difference between the well known hallucinogenic tryps vs phens.... with phens, specifically mescaline and 2c-e the first time, you have to learn how to induce distortions, the first trip was mild for me with both of these (400mg for mesc, 15mg for 2c-e) but after i learned how to look at the floor, and make it shift on 2c-e the first time, it happens ALL THE TIME, i get much crazier visuals on 2c-e at 18-20mg than LSD at 3-400ug... which i find to be equivalent for me, and usually 2c-e doesnt have a mindfuck, but at 400 mics, acid comes with what i consider a SERIOUS mindfuck, i remember thinking my house was haunted because of evil 3d imagery coming out of lamps and such... and not being able to finish a sentence. on 2c-e i can communicate well on 15mg or so, while getting some insane OEVS, everytime. 20mg or above, there def is a fairly strong mindfuck.
however, some people ive taken it with felt exactly the same, some didnt feel much, on up to 30-50mg. Anyone here have similar experiences?

Also, does anyone know of a more comfortable yet powerful PSYCHEDELIC (not counting MDXX and such).

2c-e actually doesnt feel like most phens do for me, except mesc.
 
Having done 50mg 2C-E rectally, there is serious mindfuck. The thing that has turned me off it is the aggravating body load. 2C-T-7 is interesting. From what I have read, you may want to try 2C-P as a better version of 2C-E.
 
yeah B9, I often hear 2c-p described as having the potential for being pretty "hardcore" in terms of body load, and of course also in terms of duration. doesn't sound like that's quite what the OP is looking for, but I've never tried it myself, so...
 
i find 2c-e's body load to be nonexistant... i just get a body buzz, which is pleasant. I guess this drug is very subjective
 
Maybe you just want to eat some psilocybin mushrooms - very powerful psychedelic, yet benign in the body.

I consider the body load of these powerful synthetic psychedelics to be a part of the experience, and although 2C-E is very much felt in the body, I don't find it to be an unpleasant experience. Just something that comes along with the awesome mental effects.
 
At first I found 2C-E to be uncomfortable, but once I built a relationship with it, It was just all pleasant rushes. Mind you, it's still gives me a "body load", i just don't find it unpleasant. I still feel as though there is energy in my solar plexus area, and I could see how if I wasn't in a good set or setting, that it could turn into nausea, especially with higher doses. If I get cold on 2C-E, my muscles get especially jittery, but when my body temp is up it's quite nice. I lose a bit of fine motor control on it too becuase of the jittery aspect. It also makes it slighltly hard to urinate, and it feels a bit dehydrating, but it's nothing like a heavy night of drinking.

But onto CEVs, i never got tooo much in the way of closed eye visuals from 2C-E until one of my more recent trips. I told my friend I didn't get too many CEVs from it, to which he replied "maybe you're not looking properly", and then for the rest of the night when I shut my eyes, every thought I had seemed as though it was part of a huge fractal. As I thought, I would "fall through" the fractals, exposing it's infinite nature. They had a 3D quality to them, and I could kind of control how fast I was falling into the fractal structure, and which part of the fractal design I would fall into. Then later we were listening to some extremely heavy duty intense psy trance, and i had images of two black snake like dragons that were rotating around this hexagon shape, and the whole snakey-hexagon thing was traveling at a super fast pace through a dark void. Very trippy.
 
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2ce made it seem like i was swimming through the guts of reality. so much woah synyshtysia like you wouldnt beleive. reminded me of the part in that movie when jack black waves his arms and things go ZEEEEWWWWWWWW and little magical sparkles float around everywhere
 
i dont really have a body load on 2ce, just a nice body buzz. mushrooms i would not call benign in the body, at least for me. LSD and 2ce are my favorite psychs because they are the most psychedelic and powerful and neither carries a body load for me..tho ive never ventured above 20mg of 2ce and ive tripped close to 100 times on it.
 
For me DOC creates more of a visual soup effect where absolutely everything in my vision is moving and warping and changing colors. 2C-E is a bit more directed in its visuals, with sharp, colorful fractallizations and making everything appear alive and glowing, especially nature. I'd probably say DOC is more visual because it obstructs my vision to a greater extent. But the two are definitely differently visual.

I also used to often find 2C-E to have a bad bodyload. Once I got comfortable with it though, and made sure I was always in a setting free of worry, it started to feel very nice on the body. I appreciate 2C-E for its ability to distort reality but leave you feeling pretty healthy and "clean". However it's powerfully psychedelic so if you're uncomfortable at all it will manifest its energy as strange and uncomfortable body feelings.
 
I'm doing some more 2c-e tonight with a couple friends but I am also getting LSD very soon and I was wondering. Does 2C-E cause a cross tolerance with LSD? Due perhaps to its chemical similarity of mescaline
 
Thanks Xorkoth. I know it's apparently really not good for you but I'd still like to know how dangerous (with pure product) to IV 2C-E and if anyone has tried it what the experience was like.
 
The only posts I've read about IV 2C-E were from people who were trying to IM it and hit a vein by accident. Apparently IVing an intramuscular dose of a psychedelic known for its harsh come-ups even when just taken orally was not a fun experience. :\

From a harm reduction standpoint I really really wouldn't do it. If you're in to needles, have you tried it IM?
 
Yeah I always IM it and with great success, easily my preferred method. Nah I know its probably really dangerous I'm just curious as to the effects and what kind of rush there is, and what the duration would be like.
 
IM 2C-E is your preferred method, that is interesting! Approximately how many times have you taken it that way? What are the dosages and what's the duration like? Is this your preferred method for all of the 2C's?
 
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