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The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

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I notice a bit of a discomfort with 2C-E when I plug it, but it is nothing totally brutal. Hey, if anyone wants to experience something brutal, try plugging salvia tincture ! Worst couple of days of my life.
 
I just...well by just a mean a few hours ago but IM'ed 20-ish mg of 2C-E. The come up amazingly fast, barely had time to think before the visuals hit me hard. And it just keep increasing from there, most intense experience with 2c-e of my life. 50mg Oral wasn't as intense as this 20 IM, although next time I'm definitely not going to inject it into the arm, arm was sore all night, a bit distracting but fine none-the-less. Still tripping so I'll report back later :P
 
^Well, at least you didn't do 50mg. That's your first time IM? I'm guessing by your 50mg oral experience you have some tolerance? It took about 2 minutes to feel didn't it, followed by about a half hour of fidgety fist-balled pacing and bursts of tense laughter? Your post is surprising free of spelling errors, and even punctuated. That's unexpected. I'd be interested in hearing a summary after you're down (probably ~6 hrs total if you're wondering.)

I always IM in the top end of one of my thighs, maybe 10-15 centimeters below the hip bone. Unless you're in a Las Vegas chorus line, you don't use those muscles much--though I rarely feel soreness there in any case.
 
Is your 2C-E degraded or something? I can't imagine needing to ever do 50mg oral to get off.


^^ And ditto on injecting in the thigh. Hard to miss, and you don't really notice the ache.
 
Yeah the thigh will definitely be my new place of injection. Um i find I can type quite well on 2c-e, well during the quieter periods at least. Here's a long-ish summary:

I had come home from a party and I decided I would end the night with some 2c-e. One of my best friends A, and a fellow psychonaut decided to watch me do it out of curiosity and boredom. So I prepared the 20mg shot and proceeded to inject it into my left arm. I put down the needle, capped it, and was talking to A for a couple minutes when I noticed the visual distortion start. Needless to say the come up time was amazingly fast, which I certainly wasn't complaining about. The visuals began with the signature warping growing in intensity rapidly. After a few more minutes I was getting full blown visual bombardment. My arm was heavy and sore from the injection and was an annoyance but easily tolerable, won't make the same mistake next time.

Throughout the night as it increased in intensity I experienced a few new sensations that I had no previously gotten on 2c-e. I talked with A about many a thing throughout the night but I noticed that as we were talking I would interpret A's questions and responses in different levels of depth. And the depth of my interpretation would be erratically jumping at anytime. Like he might have been talking about something menial and I would go into huge trains of deep thought into the nature of the subject. It’s a bit more complex but may take me some time to put it into words, so I’ll write out a proper trip report sometime.

I had a bowl of weed just before the peak, to mitigate the uncomfortable body load; I wasn’t sure at times if I was actually feeling nauseous or just some weird uncomfortable feeling in the stomach. But the weed worked to lessen whatever it was. I also felt as though everything had a strong and very fast vibration,

At the peak I felt as though I was merging into the "Stream" of the universe, No ++++ mind you but I imagine it was a tiny taste of it. My whole field of visual became like a wave of visuals, all in synch like a river, and my body felt like it was suspended in water, flowing involuntarily with the waves of visuals. I would look on my monitor and as I attempted to move my mouse around flicking through songs the trails of the mouse created jewels that would jump out into my field of vision, almost like looking at a night sky and having very large stars just pop up. Music was quite intense, I would play a very psychedelic song and the visuals would step up a notch and I get lost in the song and waves of patterns and colours.

As I attempted to explain to A what the visuals were kind of like, I said that each movement or object left a border for each frame in which it moved, if that makes any sense, but it was not like trails that are merely delayed, where each small border has the previous imagine side by side, but in each border the action would constantly repeat so it was like a huge overlay of actions and movement. Again I’ll attempt to describe it better another time.

At the peak my memory also began to dwindle slightly, in both the ‘Huh...What was I saying?’ weed way and the traditional psychedelic *having thousands of thoughts a second on something and then completely losing the original thought or point*. At times it felt like I would get sidetracked so much during a conversation that when A reminded me of the original point it felt as though I was going back in time in a sense. It’s hard to explain. Almost as though in the whole sidetracked conversation no time had passed and it was as though I was playing a conversation scenario out in my head or something.

I took the shot at 1:30am, by about 6:30am I started to come down. Tried to sleep at 7ish am. Fell asleep somewhere around 8am I think. Woke up at 11am feeling tired but back to baseline and fine mostly.

I think I may have experienced some instances of synaesthesia but I can’t really remember/pinpoint them.
 
Another question, can you Subcutaneously inject 2C-E? I remember hearing K could be done SC and it was very similar to IM. Does this apply for 2C-E? Because one of my friends said he'd much rather SC than IM cause he is a diabetic and SC injects insulin all the time.
 
^I would guess it would sting pretty bad, as I've heard subq stings more than IM even with much less caustic substances than 2C-E (could've heard wrong, though). In any case, if your friend can regularly stick a needle in for insulin, then it's not too much of a psychological hurtle to alter the angle and go a little deeper for IM.

Excido, do you have a tolerance for phenethylamines? You should edit your posts if you do, because on 50mg oral or 20mgs IM I think most people could hardly walk, let alone type up posts and hold conversations with friends (and would probably not have a good time)... In case you you're thinking about using your experience to gauge the dose you're thinking about giving your friend, don't. Start out with no more than 5mg, then wait like half an hour to see how he reacts.
 
^^^ Hmmm maybe my scale is fingered, that might explain it. Maybe I've been taking a fair bit less than previously though...damn means I'll have to up my dose hahaha jk. I was tossing up betweeb getting some more 2C-E or maybe some 2C-I and was curious as to how they relate, as 2C-E is the only phen i've tried. Are the 2C-I visuals similarly as intense? Is it euphoric in comparison? Body Load? etc etc
 
^^^^

and that is why I chose to buy 2C-E as my first RC just because I'm looking for something deep and mentally crazy...my favorite drug is acid by far and I'm looking for something similar, yet I know that NOTHING will take the place of acid in my heart. I've done my fair share of other psychedelics, even at super high doses and I still think acid is the best drug on the planet, psychedelic or otherwise. And I do plenty of opiates as well...psychedelics rule the drug world in my opinion, you can't get anything more out of any drug than you can with acid.
 
Is 2C-E more comparable to acid than 2C-I or 2C-T-7? Those are the only 2C's ive done but 2C-E is the next coming and im curious to hear what you guys think because I find 2C-I and T7 very enjoyable T7 is probably my favorite though. Its extremely visual, quite deep and very euphoric, not to mention after the come-up the body-load almost disappears.
 
I can't even begin to describe how different each of these drugs is from each other drug. I mean, they are four different drugs, and all have different characteristics. We could probably debate how different each of them are from each other all day. So, I think, just take the damn 2C-E and see how it is same, but also different from other psychedelics for yourself. Careful though, 2C-E can really be a ass kicker.
 
Haven't TRIPPED in a long time (not since the last ween concert). I'm thinking I'd like to take some 2c-e in about a week - alone and in my apartment. It'll be my first time with 2c-e. My plan is to substantially scratch that psychedelic itch as well as indulge in the analytical headspace I've heard comes with the substance, but it being my first time I want to minimise the chances of going overboard. So any suggestions on dosage?

Does it matter if my chemical is more beige than white? Is this just oxidation? Or maybe cut with something? Is it likely to alter the potency? Is there a way to tell?

Thanks (in advance).
 
There's no practical way to tell, no.

I'd really recommend no more than 15mg for your first time. This is a serious substance all-around, and once you get up around 20+mg it becomes... I don't know, super-serious I guess. :D
 
15 is good. You may want to have someone to call just in case I guess. Have fun.
 
Haven't TRIPPED in a long time (not since the last ween concert). I'm thinking I'd like to take some 2c-e in about a week - alone and in my apartment. It'll be my first time with 2c-e. My plan is to substantially scratch that psychedelic itch as well as indulge in the analytical headspace I've heard comes with the substance, but it being my first time I want to minimise the chances of going overboard. So any suggestions on dosage?

Does it matter if my chemical is more beige than white? Is this just oxidation? Or maybe cut with something? Is it likely to alter the potency? Is there a way to tell?

Thanks (in advance).


I love Ween! I also love 2C-E!

I must ask....what psychedelic did you take @ Ween ??
 
I must ask....what psychedelic did you take @ Ween ??

A big ol' bag of mushrooms. We started munching in line and snuck the rest in in my shoe :) Glorious, harrowing, sometimes unsettling - who knew Mr Richard Smoker could be so complex?? :) The guys are getting a little old though... Cucaracha wasn't my favourite.

But back to the titular chemical...
 
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