⫸STICKY⫷ best 7oh recovery program or method?

[Kurt Cobain]

Did u say the wds for Kratom leaf was stronger than 7oh?

I never said stronger, to me kratom leaf wds are LONGER and the restlessness is worse imo but kindling effect plays a role so everyone is gonna be different. Id rather wd from.7oh over kratom leaf though just bc its over faster and only slightly more intense

 

[RedRum OG]

$20 a day for what? U replied to mm so I'm just gonna take a guess that u meant methadone maintenance. That really depends on where u go and what kind of insurance u have. The place I was going in early 2000's I was paying $45/week and I wasn't using my insurance for it. I knew some people were payin only $5/week with some sort of government assistance but I'm not really sure how that works. I'm pretty sure most USA jails don't provide methadone which is outrageous, you'd think they'd wanna keep people subdued samething with cigs.

Yeah methadone

The 2000s were a long time ago my friend, sad as it is to say lol. Things were much cheaper then. We can miss it together.

Yeah govt or insurance might soften the blow but without that most places in the USA between $16 at the lowest and 20

 

[Slightly_Paranoid13]

For me, an opiate maintenance program is required. I also have chronic pain and so I might as well just stay on methad0ne. I was on sub0xone and loved it but did nothing for pain. I think I will always need something for pain and anxiety and am ok with that. I can get my depression under control when my anxiety isn't always on edge. Ask yourself: Once you're off and have zero withdrawal, do you think you'll go back to an opiate of some kind here and there? If so, I'd go on a maintenance program because 90% of people don't use opiates here and there, they go back to how they used them before. I didn't sign up to have my urine analyzed every month, but knew it came with the territory. It's helping me to be more honest with myself because I can talk myself into anything lol.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

For me, an opiate maintenance program is required. I also have chronic pain and so I might as well just stay on methad0ne. I was on sub0xone and loved it but did nothing for pain. I think I will always need something for pain and anxiety and am ok with that. I can get my depression under control when my anxiety isn't always on edge. Ask yourself: Once you're off and have zero withdrawal, do you think you'll go back to an opiate of some kind here and there? If so, I'd go on a maintenance program because 90% of people don't use opiates here and there, they go back to how they used them before. I didn't sign up to have my urine analyzed every month, but knew it came with the territory. It's helping me to be more honest with myself because I can talk myself into anything lol.

They have new non narcotic pain control treatments that are apparently quite effective, even anecdotally so its not just the man trying to convince you opiates are bad and this is better, well maybe a bit of that but nonetheless. If youre content qhere you are though and using the rest of your life there's no need for stress but theres options there for you so you could manage pain and soberighty at once.

 

[NawdybyNature]

What is the best way to recover from 7oh addiction -- self-monitored taper (I currently use 100 mg/day), taper with other meds/substances, or a program -- and if so, which? i have looked at quick md, brightside, acceptance treatment. thanks

I came off like 500mg 7OH a day multiple times using any comfort meds that I could get my hands on. Clonidine for temperature regulation, gabapentin for pain relief, RLS, and sleep, and loperamide for stomach issues, powdered kratom because it has a tiny bit of 7OH in it. Once you get thru the worst of it, go hard on hot showers and jerking off. Learned that one in rehab.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

Imo the best tool for success in early recovery always boils down to finding a purpose, staying busy and building genuine relationships again.

 

[puke]

Is today the day its banned or whats going on?