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best 7oh recovery program or method?

neversickanymore said:
The length of withdraw from opiates seems to be 5 x the half life plus about 3.5 days. This is based off three years of supporting people kicking on bl and my own experience.
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I'm sorry I don't really know what half life means so u could u explain this more are u saying opiate or 7oh wds is longer?
 
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puke said:
So 7oh or opium is a longer wds?
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No it would appear to be a very short withdraw.. less then a week provided no agonist is used to treat.. but slightly longer then morphine so a few hours longer then “opium”

It’s a really short physical withdraw, but as many of us know that’s the easy part. Psychological addiction and paws can hit right after the acute withdrawal.
 
neversickanymore said:
No it would appear to be a very short withdraw.. less then a week provided no agonist is used to treat.. but slightly longer then morphine so a few hours longer then “opium”

It’s a really short physical withdraw, but as many of us know that’s the easy part. Psychological addiction and paws can hit right after the acute withdrawal.
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Maybe u know the answer I see alot of people mentioning taking magnesium for wds why is this?
 
i was sick for 10 days even with K Pins and Suboxone.

Drink tons of water w lemon juice or powdered water. Drop you AC to about 65 and keep takimg long and Hot baths or showers. It's time to detox that evil crap out of your system.
 
InsanityHurts said:
I feel like shit so my math is not math-ing. Would that add up to about a week for 7oh?
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Sending love.. you got this.. the thing with opiate withdrawal is everyone pays the piper.. your good though and under a week from your last dose.. won’t likely be a miracle but you will realize the change! Fight fight fight!!!!
 
I already messed up. I don't have the will power to do cold turkey from my current amount. I know that the 7oh I'm taking is not pure or anything, I meant no illusions as in I know, I never thought what the packaging told me was legit. It is just the only benchmark/numbers that I have to go by. I really don't know how much I'm actually taking, but according to the numbers on the packaging, I'm taking between 2k and 3k a day. So even if those numbers are wrong, it is all I have to go by and I want to try tapering down a bit first before trying to go cold turkey again.

What is the best way to taper? I have enough for a slower taper but I'm done. I don't have the will power for cold turkey or for a slow taper. I do have subs and some other meds that I got in detox, but I can't be so drugged up that I am sleeping all day. I need to be able to function (I'm ok functioning with a certain level of withdrawal symptoms. I do not need to be symptom free. I just can't be jerking around and twitching or falling asleep).

I feel sick with myself. I can't even look in the mirror. I can't believe I did this to myself AGAIN. What is fucking wrong with me? I got a second, third, fourth.... Chance and I'm still back at this point.
 
InsanityHurts said:
I already messed up. I don't have the will power to do cold turkey from my current amount. I know that the 7oh I'm taking is not pure or anything, I meant no illusions as in I know, I never thought what the packaging told me was legit. It is just the only benchmark/numbers that I have to go by. I really don't know how much I'm actually taking, but according to the numbers on the packaging, I'm taking between 2k and 3k a day. So even if those numbers are wrong, it is all I have to go by and I want to try tapering down a bit first before trying to go cold turkey again.

What is the best way to taper? I have enough for a slower taper but I'm done. I don't have the will power for cold turkey or for a slow taper. I do have subs and some other meds that I got in detox, but I can't be so drugged up that I am sleeping all day. I need to be able to function (I'm ok functioning with a certain level of withdrawal symptoms. I do not need to be symptom free. I just can't be jerking around and twitching or falling asleep).

I feel sick with myself. I can't even look in the mirror. I can't believe I did this to myself AGAIN. What is fucking wrong with me? I got a second, third, fourth.... Chance and I'm still back at this point.
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Don’t beat yourself up!! it’s not warranted and does no good as it only drives use. Fkn tapering does not work.. your clock reset to half life of the last agonist you take.. so if you took subs you reset longer..

You’re awesome!!!.. just going through it.. don’t beat yourself up!! Shits real hard
 
Jung and Stoopid said:
Those are chronically underdosed and the LAST brands you should trust as to their potency.

Why? Is this your first round of addiction?

I don't mean to be harsh but there is no sugar coating things in endgame addiction.

I'm not sure what you're expecting from SR-17018. Its not like some miracle cure compared to suboxone.

Personally a combo of suboxone and adderall gets me off 7oh the easiest. SR-17018 didn't help much at higher doses.

In terms of how buprenorphine will interact with SR-17018... it will probably render it useless as it has a higher affinity at MOR
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So why the adderal/stimulant addition to subs? just curious.
 
I did the complete opposite to get off 70H. I was taking TON too. I spent $2k in 10 days and freaked myself into going rehab in another state.
There they started me on Subs and downers to relax. There is NO way I could have quit had I been all amped up on addys.
With the subs I was taking minor doses of Seroquel and a decent amount of Klonopins.
It's been a year and 2 days since I got out of rehab and I am finally get back to myself and doing stuff I really enjoy.
Covid made us all change our daily routines and created new dopamine stimulation from things we were not used to. Things like golfing, fishing, group lunches, etc started to be lost. At the same time we started to find joy in movies at home, books, sadly our little dopamine machines and things we once thought were boring.
So Please Get back out and find what makes you happy because 7 is hell in a tablet.
It's banned in most places. . . Is it still legal in your area? You can always make your own and then steadily decrease the amount. Look up Kratom extraction with 🍋 juice.
It will be a week or two where you feel like crisp but I promise it will be worth it! Plus, think how much money you will save.
If I took addys while coming off of 7 I would have Never slept. Eveb with the downers I took I still has a couple of restless nights and wild dreams.
***Feel free to hit me up for any info or if you're even just having a bad day.
 
pytler said:
What is the best way to recover from 7oh addiction -- self-monitored taper (I currently use 100 mg/day), taper with other meds/substances, or a program -- and if so, which? i have looked at quick md, brightside, acceptance treatment. thanks
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i had it pretty bad on 7oh, just this year. i had to go to detox to get off, then my inpatient stay got pushed back so i went back on for 2 weeks, thinking it wouldn't be too bad, so i went right to inpatient without detox. it was the worst detox i have ever gone through and i went thru a 10 day fent detox in 2021. i was literally begging the staff to put me out of my misery. i went to two hospitals and finally the 2nd one gave me 3mg suboxone so i could make it to my mat appt later that day. i did 30 day inpatient with suboxone (8mg 2x daily) and that seemed to work for me. but i know for a fact that if i stop the subs, ill want to go right back to 7oh. it helped so much at first and now i regret ever trying it.
 
rockytheredhead said:
i had it pretty bad on 7oh, just this year. i had to go to detox to get off, then my inpatient stay got pushed back so i went back on for 2 weeks, thinking it wouldn't be too bad, so i went right to inpatient without detox. it was the worst detox i have ever gone through and i went thru a 10 day fent detox in 2021. i was literally begging the staff to put me out of my misery. i went to two hospitals and finally the 2nd one gave me 3mg suboxone so i could make it to my mat appt later that day. i did 30 day inpatient with suboxone (8mg 2x daily) and that seemed to work for me. but i know for a fact that if i stop the subs, ill want to go right back to 7oh. it helped so much at first and now i regret ever trying it.
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How much were u taking before u started to get off of it? I've been kinda tapering but haven't clicked in to full blown cold turkey yet. Honestly afraid because when I lower down to nothing I can feel the wds starting so basically I've got to the edge just haven't jumped yet.
 
GanjaPadre/Pharmacologist said:
I did the complete opposite to get off 70H. I was taking TON too. I spent $2k in 10 days and freaked myself into going rehab in another state.
There they started me on Subs and downers to relax. There is NO way I could have quit had I been all amped up on addys.
With the subs I was taking minor doses of Seroquel and a decent amount of Klonopins.
It's been a year and 2 days since I got out of rehab and I am finally get back to myself and doing stuff I really enjoy.
Covid made us all change our daily routines and created new dopamine stimulation from things we were not used to. Things like golfing, fishing, group lunches, etc started to be lost. At the same time we started to find joy in movies at home, books, sadly our little dopamine machines and things we once thought were boring.
So Please Get back out and find what makes you happy because 7 is hell in a tablet.
It's banned in most places. . . Is it still legal in your area? You can always make your own and then steadily decrease the amount. Look up Kratom extraction with 🍋 juice.
It will be a week or two where you feel like crisp but I promise it will be worth it! Plus, think how much money you will save.
If I took addys while coming off of 7 I would have Never slept. Eveb with the downers I took I still has a couple of restless nights and wild dreams.
***Feel free to hit me up for any info or if you're even just having a bad day.
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Thank you!!! I am going to message you
 
puke said:
How much were u taking before u started to get off of it? I've been kinda tapering but haven't clicked in to full blown cold turkey yet. Honestly afraid because when I lower down to nothing I can feel the wds starting so basically I've got to the edge just haven't jumped yet.
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How much are you on now? It's so bad. I can't believe I got hooked on it again!!!
 
InsanityHurts said:
Thank you!!! I am going to message you
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It is
GanjaPadre/Pharmacologist said:
I did the complete opposite to get off 70H. I was taking TON too. I spent $2k in 10 days and freaked myself into going rehab in another state.
There they started me on Subs and downers to relax. There is NO way I could have quit had I been all amped up on addys.
With the subs I was taking minor doses of Seroquel and a decent amount of Klonopins.
It's been a year and 2 days since I got out of rehab and I am finally get back to myself and doing stuff I really enjoy.
Covid made us all change our daily routines and created new dopamine stimulation from things we were not used to. Things like golfing, fishing, group lunches, etc started to be lost. At the same time we started to find joy in movies at home, books, sadly our little dopamine machines and things we once thought were boring.
So Please Get back out and find what makes you happy because 7 is hell in a tablet.
It's banned in most places. . . Is it still legal in your area? You can always make your own and then steadily decrease the amount. Look up Kratom extraction with 🍋 juice.
It will be a week or two where you feel like crisp but I promise it will be worth it! Plus, think how much money you will save.
If I took addys while coming off of 7 I would have Never slept. Eveb with the downers I took I still has a couple of restless nights and wild dreams.
***Feel free to hit me up for any info or if you're even just having a bad
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It is still legal in my state. The DEA is making it a Class 1 (like heroin) for 2 years starting early August.
 
rockytheredhead said:
i had it pretty bad on 7oh, just this year. i had to go to detox to get off, then my inpatient stay got pushed back so i went back on for 2 weeks, thinking it wouldn't be too bad, so i went right to inpatient without detox. it was the worst detox i have ever gone through and i went thru a 10 day fent detox in 2021. i was literally begging the staff to put me out of my misery. i went to two hospitals and finally the 2nd one gave me 3mg suboxone so i could make it to my mat appt later that day. i did 30 day inpatient with suboxone (8mg 2x daily) and that seemed to work for me. but i know for a fact that if i stop the subs, ill want to go right back to 7oh. it helped so much at first and now i regret ever trying it.
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The last time I went to detox I was screaming the first night. They were under medicating me and not giving me subs yet. It was awful. Ever since I had a grand mal seizure from tramadol, I am extra freaked out during withdrawals because I feel like I might have a seizure again. I get brain zaps and other signs. The night staff that night were also not nice or understanding at all. It was horrible. The next day there was a staffing change and it got a little better. Still it is clear they have no understanding of 7oh or how to detox from it, etc. I don't think they've learned more since that time so I'm terrified to go back.
 
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