Opioid withdrawl smell???

[Kurt Cobain]

I sweat 24/7, even in the winter bc I have high blood pressure. Like I’m just running around my house chasing these toddlers and cleaning and cooking and just dropping buckets of sweat. You’d think I’d weigh next to nothing by now lmao

Everyone tells me my sweat smells like maple syrup. I thought they were just being fags bc im a ginger lol but nah my gf mentioned it too so my sweat would have to physically change during wd but youd think since I pretty much fast the whole time the sweat would smell better or less noticeable in general

 

[Kurt Cobain]

What kind of opioids are you taking ?

I am sure there is a smell too. I don't know how to explain it either, although I think it is worse with brown/afghan heroin that other pharma opioids probably because of the cuts.

Actually I do think some cuts make it worse.

This go round mgm15 mgm16 7oh and kratom leaf but my true love is good ole smack but unless I go the tor route that's a thing of the past

 

[SoCalShordie]

Everyone tells me my sweat smells like maple syrup. I thought they were just being fags bc im a ginger lol but nah my gf mentioned it too so my sweat would have to physically change during wd but youd think since I pretty much fast the whole time the sweat would smell better or less noticeable in general

My baby daddy’s cum smells like soap.

 

[Ozymandeus]

I wash myself and it'll still be there, cologne still there, scrub the entire house? Its there, take a deep dive into mr cleans bung hole? STILL THERE lmfao its a weird ass smell

I guess I can't really smell it much because I smoke tobacco and never had good smell.

But what I do smell is if I go back and sniff my dirty clothes, I do notice my BO is worse than usual. Almost stings the nostrils.

 

[puke]

My sense of smell is sensitive when in WD in general and my wife has so many candles it drives me crazy I think I’m going crazy just sitting on the couch and suddenly smelling vanilla or shit like that , the same happens in my workplace.

Oh fuck, I know what ur talking about. Air freshener spray makes me ralph.

 

[4DQSAR]

In his first (autobiographical) work, William S. Borroughs specifically states 'there is nothing in the world worse than the smell of a cell filled with sick junkies' and being more like journalism than typical idealized look back, his statements have been consistantly right.

I suggest ketosis combined with hyperhidrosis is the cause.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

In his first (autobiographical) work, William S. Borroughs specifically states 'there is nothing in the world worse than the smell of a cell filled with sick junkies' and being more like journalism than typical idealized look back, his statements have been consistantly right.

I suggest ketosis combined with hyperhidrosis is the cause.

Isint going into.ketosis good for you?

 

[juicedup007]

Maybe for losing fat lol

I definitely get a weird smell to. Sometimes ammonia like, sometimes rotting

 

[Kurt Cobain]

Maybe for losing fat lol

I definitely get a weird smell to. Sometimes ammonia like, sometimes rotting

Rotting sweet smokey weirdness

 

[Halif2]

I definitely get a weird smell to. Sometimes ammonia like,

The ammonia rank is what I get. It's a really sharp, acrid smelling sweat which soaks into clothes and bedsheets and can leave stains.

There are so many symptoms to contend with in opioid/opiate WDs. My sense of smell goes into overdrive. I had no idea that that particular sense could even function that way in my body. I've heard that sometimes women who are pregnant get intensely heightened senses of smell, and I wonder if this is what it is like. Every room is full of cloying smells that have almost taken on a physical dimension because they've become so tangible.

I can smell my own stink as well. It;s rough.

 

[MedicinalUser247]

That's because you have the Opioid Withdrawal Sweats.

 

[4DQSAR]

Ketosis increases the levels of low MW amines in sweat - mostly ammonia.

But all low MW amines will be in that increased volume of sweat and skin bacteria can turn those into some funky diamines such a cadavarine and putrecine (clue in names).

I'm not saying 'here you are, here is the absolute truth' just informed speculation.

I would search out research on the subject as given it's known to occur, surely someone will have got backing to test if sweat testing can mark out dependent opioid users.

After all, a LOT of serious writers have pointed out that the high of opioids just isn't that great UNLESS a person is physically dependent. Because then the brain is rewired to the opioid causing dopamine release to re-enforce consumption.

Before people bang on about how amazeballz their drug of choice is, remember that something like 97% of people who try unprescribed opioids do NOT go on to become dependent. The problem is often that a clinician prescribes an opioid for long enough for that rewiring to take place and how fast that rewiring takes could, I suspect, be a single dose in people whose genetics, situation and mental health conspire to make the sheer relief pump out dopamine after just one hit.

So I've never ever judged people for using anything but I do know that while some remain functional, some become chaotic very fast so one needs caution so as not to enable what amounts to self-destruction.

Sometimes we are not in a position to help another person, but rarely are we ever in the position of having no choice in causing harm.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

That's because you have the Opioid Withdrawal Sweats.

Well ya, im asking specefically what causes them to smell much worse than any other sweating. Its not just toxins leaving your body, its not just a heightened sense of smell either, its a distinct smell that follows everywhere even if i just scrubbed my skin off in the shower lol

 

[Kurt Cobain]

Ketosis increases the levels of low MW amines in sweat - mostly ammonia.

But all low MW amines will be in that increased volume of sweat and skin bacteria can turn those into some funky diamines such a cadavarine and putrecine (clue in names).

I'm not saying 'here you are, here is the absolute truth' just informed speculation.

I would search out research on the subject as given it's known to occur, surely someone will have got backing to test if sweat testing can mark out dependent opioid users.

After all, a LOT of serious writers have pointed out that the high of opioids just isn't that great UNLESS a person is physically dependent. Because then the brain is rewired to the opioid causing dopamine release to re-enforce consumption.

Before people bang on about how amazeballz their drug of choice is, remember that something like 97% of people who try unprescribed opioids do NOT go on to become dependent. The problem is often that a clinician prescribes an opioid for long enough for that rewiring to take place and how fast that rewiring takes could, I suspect, be a single dose in people whose genetics, situation and mental health conspire to make the sheer relief pump out dopamine after just one hit.

So I've never ever judged people for using anything but I do know that while some remain functional, some become chaotic very fast so one needs caution so as not to enable what amounts to self-destruction.

Sometimes we are not in a position to help another person, but rarely are we ever in the position of having no choice in causing harm.

What do you think truly makes the difference between a functional addict and a not functional addict? Im functional id day i work take care of the house my girl and let's all while doing bags and bags of smack. Do you think its more so people's genes or mental state that plays the biggest role in that?

 

[4DQSAR]

What do you think truly makes the difference between a functional addict and a not functional addict? Im functional id day i work take care of the house my girl and let's all while doing bags and bags of smack. Do you think its more so people's genes or mental state that plays the biggest role in that?

I should have been clearer. It isn't an objective yes or no but a subjective spectrum. Yes, MOST long-time users (>10 years) live stable lives. While others might be drinking two bottles of spirits every evening, people who choose opioids are often in better physical condition or at least eating, sleeping and well, HAVING a life. Probably you wouldn't even know they used.

It's when every action is either obtaining or using. Where the only structure in a person's life IS using that a person can become chaotic because the 24/7/365 'mission' has replaced everything else. Using is the ONLY structure in their lives so a glitch where they cannot get their stuff is where the bad stuff happens.

When a couple both use it either turns into a totally unbreakable bond OR they end up suspecting the other of 'holding out' and it's uniformly disasterous.

Is mental health a driver? I would say it's by far the biggest driver. It's simply self-medication.

What I would say is that if you are part of a society, you don't get to pick and choose which parts of that compact you accept. We ALL know prohibition simply doesn't work but right now, we all know that even using such things is a criminal offcence and I think terms of imprisonmnent are also significant drivers.

A criminal record ironically tends to disproportionately block low-level employment so on release a person has been given a verbal grab-bag of quick scams whose sole commonality is not mentioning that the person got CAUGHT. But they won't be trusted with money or goods, are blocked from whole sectors of employment so not really a surprise so many reach into said grab-bag.

Two thoughts by Malcolm Hardee were 'Like juggling and mime, prison is just a dreadful waste of time' & that as an ex-convict his 2 options were to become a mini-cab driver or a comedian.

So it's not so much that I worry for you life, it's more a case of I worry about your liberty and that of the vast and mostly invisible group who cannot be measured because they simply do not end up on any record.

Make no mistake, like all drugs of which a subgroup we term psychoactive and a subgroup of that we term 'opioids' carry risks. How much risk a person is prepared to take is probably not the worst metric to judge how chaotic a persons use is.

If I DON'T see you post, I worry.

 

[paranoid android]

In his first (autobiographical) work, William S. Borroughs specifically states 'there is nothing in the world worse than the smell of a cell filled with sick junkies' and being more like journalism than typical idealized look back, his statements have been consistantly right.

I suggest ketosis combined with hyperhidrosis is the cause.

Reading this just gave me a flashback to when i woke up dopesick and hungover in city lockup. If im the first person to live to be 150 years old i will still never forget the stink of that goddamn cell.