Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy DOM Thread

[Leprechaun]

Yes, I enjoyed reading your report and have actually reread it quite recently To be entirely truthful the bodyload may have been exacerbated by some residual flu or cold I had

I think I want to continue exploring DOM in 2 mg increments starting at a full 2 mg dose, then to 4 and 6 as I see fit. 2 mg I hope will be great at a hike, but I believe 4 mg may already be pushing it and I may need a place to retreat, making a stroll through the local park a bit more attractive.

I was also told by a friend to try to get some cardio in prior to the experience as it may help with the bodyload.

The dose may have been leaning more towards the 1.8 mg side of things than 1.5 mg, and DOM is potent enough for 0.3 mg to make a difference. I'd liken the intensity of my experience to about 15 - 20 mg 2C-D. It was not particularly strong but it just got me thinking and once that machinery was set in motion it was hard to stop.

I am glad to announce that for this half week now, I felt zero draw towards dopaminergic stimulants. I said I probably need to slow down with the psychedelics but as I feel pretty grounded currently I may want to keep up somewhat more frequent consumption in small doses as I see some progress with some of the mental and addiction problems I am having. The DOM was actually taken on top of a quite interesting change. I was about to give into an impulse to relapse with amphetamine, when for the first time in my life I was able to stop this cascade and consider what I was doing. Actually taking the DOM was a bit of a replacement in hopes for getting some stimulation and a mood lift. It did not grant that but whatever I ended up with turned out to be so much better and helpful, I feel.

If you have access to 2C-D then there is a worthwhile combination I read was highly effective.

In the Sasha pharmacology notebooks, Ann had described an excellent way to effectively prolong the insightful aspect of MDMA by taking 10-15mg of 2C-D about 1hr after the supplement.

The best dosing strategy for that could be explored!

Look forward to hearing your reports whether you try this combo or not.

Good to meet a fellow explorer.

 

[Leprechaun]

Ehhh. Not quite how id describe it though there are similarities. 2C-D is mildly stimulating while DOM the stimulation is a majorbcomponent of the trip. 2C-D has a bit more emotional warmth and DOM i find hyper analytical. If i were to take DOM again it would be taken early in the day at a music festival in the fall or spring. I find it has a tendency to heat the body up so the few times i took it in hot weather it was a bit stressful amd at times confusing

My last go with it was this previous spring. id woken up to a text from the girl id been seeing and it was essentially a break up text. I dont know why i thought it would be a good idea or distraction from the heartache. It was very introspective and made me very self critical and probably did not raise my spirits one bit.

To each there own though i do find it has value its just not my first choice of psychedelic amphetamines. That would be TMA-2 and even though they are quite similar structurally i find TMA-2 much more recreational, heart opening, and therapeutic

Fascinating you say that.

One thing that surprised me is though I have seen TMA-2 around, I have not seen MEM around, which apparently is an excellent one to combine with MDMA and is more “fun” than TMA-2.

Erowid Online Books : "PIHKAL" - #122 MEM

Entry #122 MEM from PiHKAL by Alexander & Ann Shulgin.

www.erowid.org

 

[Didgital]

I can attest that MDMA with 2C-D is absolutely amazing, tho i dont think i did it ala shulgin. I find 2C-D has minimal heart opening effect but it IS there. Honestly so far that has been the best 2c-D combo ive tried. I need to start writing down my experiments but i probably put it in the 2c-d thread..

MEM sounds very very interesting lately.

 

[xdrc]

MEM will likely be tested within this year by me. Unfortunately a test with MDMA revealed that the loss of magic is too strong (lost the magic before I ever got to MDMA due to BDB, MDA, 4-FA, mephedrone... it's alright, had my fun). So I can unfortunately not test either combination. I think I know which report you are referring to by Ann (I have also read major parts of the notebook) and iirc she also had a very attenuated reaction to MDMA at this point already.

Maybe a couple years down the road I can enjoy sparse use of entactogens again but I flew too close to the sun and paid for it. They leave me with a hollow feeling now (because I know their radiance too well but at most it teases) and substantial nausea (they used to have no bodyload).

Fortunately 2C-B is a good enough substitute with none of the overuse problems and the thios were promising too.

 

[Leprechaun]

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MEM will likely be tested within this year by me. Unfortunately a test with MDMA revealed that the loss of magic is too strong (lost the magic before I ever got to MDMA due to BDB, MDA, 4-FA, mephedrone... it's alright, had my fun). So I can unfortunately not test either combination. I think I know which report you are referring to by Ann (I have also read major parts of the notebook) and iirc she also had a very attenuated reaction to MDMA at this point already.

Maybe a couple years down the road I can enjoy sparse use of entactogens again but I flew too close to the sun and paid for it. They leave me with a hollow feeling now (because I know their radiance too well but at most it teases) and substantial nausea (they used to have no bodyload).

Fortunately 2C-B is a good enough substitute with none of the overuse problems and the thios were promising too.

Not sure if magic is something Ann considered. She was taking MDMA weekly on a Saturday for over a year to help with writing,