Opioid withdrawl shopping list

[jose ribas da silva]

#1 Benzo the 7OH anxiety is crazy I think mgm might be worse
And/or Lyrica
#2 Hydroxyzine works for sleep and anxiety but it can make the RLS a tad worse
#3 Paracetamol + Ibuprofen combo that personally gives me a lot of relief
#4 Norgesic can work is a muscle relaxer orphenadrine + paracetamol
#5 propanolol or clonidine can lower the heart rate and the feeling of adrenaline and you’ll stop hearing your heartbeat in your ears

Food if you can eat you’ll feel better but eat healthy food.
Hot bath makes me a tad more relaxed.

Also if you have kratom use it why not ? But the adregenic effects can make the adrenaline and anxiety a bit worse.

Cannabis and alcohol always made me worse except one time that the edible hit the spot and made my mind not to care about anxiety etc.

I would strongly suggest never taking propranolol or clonidine without a doctor prescribing them. This guy is fucking crazy for suggesting that shit.

 

[cnnka]

I would strongly suggest never taking propranolol or clonidine without a doctor prescribing them. This guy is fucking crazy for suggesting that shit.

But you don’t seem concerned about benzodiazepines or hydroxyzine ??? lol

They are considered safe, though taking any medication without a prescription is clearly improper.
Still, clonidine and propranolol are common in withdrawal treatment.

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

I would strongly suggest never taking propranolol or clonidine without a doctor prescribing them. This guy is fucking crazy for suggesting that shit.

clonidine is a pretty normal w/d remedy ..... idk what propanolol is exactly but is it alot stronger/worse? (I guess this is in my jurisdiction?) lol

 

[Skorpio]

clonidine is a pretty normal w/d remedy ..... idk what propanolol is exactly but is it alot stronger/worse? (I guess this is in my jurisdiction?) lol

Propranolol is a beta blocker, which makes the heart rate not increase due to an adrenaline release. It is pretty commonly prescribed for anxiety these days as it isn’t addictive or recreational.

Clonidine differs in that it actually decreases the amount of adrenaline release, and tends to be more powerful, causing more side effects like orthostatic hypotension.

If you take clonidine daily for very long, you will need to taper it as the rebound hypertension from a high dose can send somebody into a hypertensive crisis if abruptly discontinued.

 

[SoCalShordie]

Kratom wont do much if you were doing strong opiates the people who rave about it for wd have a 50mg a day vicodin habit or tramadol habit, ya know, a weak habit so it works great for them bc its an opioid like plant too comparable to taking 10 20mg of perks

Ohh okay that makes sense lol. I was shooting 2-4 bags of H in a day. I keep seeing all these podcast interviews where people are strung out on kratom and talking about how awesome it feels and I’m just so lost bc it did nothing for me at all lol.

 

[paranoid android]

Ya know, I have never had any relief from anything during opiate withdrawal. None of the things here ever worked for me. Even got kratom from somebody once, and I felt nothing. Those were the days. lol. Joking

I dont miss wd's one goddamn bit. Dunno how i did that for so long

 

[jose ribas da silva]

But you don’t seem concerned about benzodiazepines or hydroxyzine ??? lol

They are considered safe, though taking any medication without a prescription is clearly improper.
Still, clonidine and propranolol are common in withdrawal treatment.

Man, if you take clonidine and you’re already somewhat predisposed to low blood pressure, or if you combine it with opioids during a relapse, that can be dangerous

 

[jose ribas da silva]

Man, if you take clonidine and you’re already somewhat predisposed to low blood pressure, or if you combine it with opioids during a relapse, that can be dangerous

Clonidine is dangerous in a different way because it can significantly affect heart rate and blood pressure. The risk can change a lot depending on the person, for example if they’re older, overweight, drinking alcohol, or taking other depressants. It’s not something harmless like Advil

 

[Just a little pinprick]

Man, if you take clonidine and you’re already somewhat predisposed to low blood pressure, or if you combine it with opioids during a relapse, that can be dangerous

Man, if you take clonidine and you’re already somewhat predisposed to low blood pressure, or if you combine it with opioids during a relapse, that can be dangerous

You missing one huge detail that I didn’t see you nor anyone else consider,I’ve seen it talked about plenty on BL and clonidine helps the xylazine withdrawal which causes a spike in blood pressure,xylazine is in most fentanyl on the east coast ,at least its present in all the bags that I tested…

 

[paranoid android]

You missing one huge detail that I didn’t see you nor anyone else consider,I’ve seen it talked about plenty on BL and clonidine helps the xylazine withdrawal which causes a spike in blood pressure,xylazine is in most fentanyl on the east coast ,at least its present in all the bags that I tested…

That is a very good point. Combining clonidne and tranq could very well prove fatal. Ive never had tranq as that was before my time but i have ived clonidine with morphine and that shits no joke

I think clonidine is very overrated as a wd med anyway. It never really helped any of my symptoms

 

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

I just use benadryl, which isn't as good but probably a bit safer

 

[Skorpio]

One big thing with clonidine is that with long enough daily use, you are going to want to taper off of it, as it can cause rebound hypertension that can be dangerous.

 

[paranoid android]

One reason i didnt like clonidine for wd's is that it made the dizziness i got worse

 

[Tralfamadorian]

I just use benadryl, which isn't as good but probably a bit safer

Benadryl always makes things worse for me, more restlessness and brain fog.

 

[RUC4]

personal experiences are welcome, but avoid vague “take a few pills” advice or treating these lists as a safe combo to take together.

@Kurt Cobain Loperamide at higher doses can cause dangerous heart problems. with your seizure history, i'd also be careful about trying a bunch of new meds or combinations at once.-include the risks.

 

[paranoid android]

Benadryl always makes things worse for me, more restlessness and brain fog.

Benadryl always made the restlessness worse for me to

 

[Kurt Cobain]

Ohh okay that makes sense lol. I was shooting 2-4 bags of H in a day. I keep seeing all these podcast interviews where people are strung out on kratom and talking about how awesome it feels and I’m just so lost bc it did nothing for me at all lol.

I tried doing the same but think about it like this if eating sub after sub and it not do shit to.boy withdrawls until the 3rd of 4th days kratom.aint doing jack. It is very nice when your tolerance is low especially for a plant and it is supris8ngly potent in that regard comp.to 20mg perk imo. The issue with kratom to me is how fast is qears off and then leaves me with this empty feeling thus causing compulsive redoing albeit nowhere near something like 7oh or fent. I also would prefer to go through h wds at my worse doing half a brick a day of good Afghan #4 over a heavy kratom habits wds. Boy wds are much more.intense but ime are over much much faster and dont leave me nearly as.restless and depressed anabolic as kratom wds, kratom wds also last forever for me albeit when im.doing kratom im eating at the absolute least 60gpd of roughly 2% leaf so good shit at worse 80 to even 120gpd at my worse dosing every single half hour basically. I've alsp been a full blown junkie since.i was 11 so kindling effect comes into play and its Moreso me being a fiend and.dumbass and not kratom being this wicked evil thing

 

[Kurt Cobain]

Benadryl always made the restlessness worse for me to

Yup, I will never forget when I was 13 and very first ran out of opiates not knowing shit about wd and decided to pop 4 benadryl.... I legit debated cutting my own arms off lol

 

[Kurt Cobain]

#1 Benzo the 7OH anxiety is crazy I think mgm might be worse
And/or Lyrica
#2 Hydroxyzine works for sleep and anxiety but it can make the RLS a tad worse
#3 Paracetamol + Ibuprofen combo that personally gives me a lot of relief
#4 Norgesic can work is a muscle relaxer orphenadrine + paracetamol
#5 propanolol or clonidine can lower the heart rate and the feeling of adrenaline and you’ll stop hearing your heartbeat in your ears

Food if you can eat you’ll feel better but eat healthy food.
Hot bath makes me a tad more relaxed.

Also if you have kratom use it why not ? But the adregenic effects can make the adrenaline and anxiety a bit worse.

Cannabis and alcohol always made me worse except one time that the edible hit the spot and made my mind not to care about anxiety etc.

I have lyrica rhat is it sadly... I tried getting benzos but my guy ain't gonna come thru. The anxiety from 7oh is intense and now im gonna be sick from.mgm and 7oh at ridiculous dosages for almost a year. Im fucked. What is norgesic? Otc.or nah im guessing? I have proponolol i can get from my.girl.but im worried about drug interactions and I already get super light headed during wd as is feel like thatd make.me.ko in a bad way especially taking lyrica and shit ontop but idk does it really help all that much especially compared.to.catapress?

 

[Kurt Cobain]

Why don't u guys make a list of easily obtainable stuff, based o ur guys lists my boy's gonna be broke.

I appreciate ya but money ain't the issue lol and I did ask for literally anything especially lesser known not mentioned.much supps/drugs