🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 Gibberings ver. CCXIX - "what's new, c*nty chops?"

[Ki3ly]

I'm sure. It is.

 

[Shambles]

Yeah I know I could google it but… how does one clean a hash pipe? Mine is gakked tae fuck and I’d be tempted to replace it but see some of y’all tokers make the effort to clean em out. Howforso?

Also,

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

Gonna start chopping beaky BL members down in a single blow when I finished reading this.

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[Zopiclone bandit]

shit the bed folks, just chatting to my mate who vapes and tomorrow the tax kicks in on it.
"£2.20 excise duty (10ml × 22p); VAT on the excise duty (£0.44). This means the total price would rise to approximately £5.14 per bottle once the tax is applied"

this will only push it underground and shady fuckers will make it then sell it cheap and bash it out with God knows what.

I cried for you vapers a moment ago, I feel for you lot in my very Soul.

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

fuck sake!!!!!
people can't be added to toss their Meth pipe packaging in the bin around here now.
That's all the flats need is Meth smokers, Jesus Christ this world is going to shit so quickly.

 

[placebonaut]

Yeah I know I could google it but… how does one clean a hash pipe? Mine is gakked tae fuck and I’d be tempted to replace it but see some of y’all tokers make the effort to clean em out. Howforso?

right fucking ballache, unless it's your favorite then I think the protocol is to put it in a draw and forget about it.....

 

[Perkins : Reborn]

Jaysus. @Zopiclone bandit banned again?

I had an ultrasound on my liver this morning. But they sent me to a private clinic in Didsbury, an affluent south Manchester suburb that wishes it was in Cheshire.

Got some funny looks from the reception staff, but the actual medics were fine.

 

[Bleaney]

Jaysus. @Zopiclone bandit banned again?

I had an ultrasound on my liver this morning. But they sent me to a private clinic in Didsbury, an affluent south Manchester suburb that wishes it was in Cheshire.

Got some funny looks from the reception staff, but the actual medics were fine.

I think @placebonaut was suggesting a book on how long ZBs next ban might last. I thought he'd last longer than the timeframe PB suggested.

He used to survive at least a few months previously, IIIRC,

Imo the ban hammer is being used more frequently and for lesser reasons these days, to the detriment of the forum and free speech.

Good luck with your Ultrasound.

One thing with AuDHD is that more and more I don't even bother clocking the reactions of strangers, or even looking at them. It;s meaningless; they simply don't understand and are incapable of empathy, so their reactions are of no value of importance imo.

Some may think that is an arrogant approach, and have said as much, but it boils down to keeping my own mood and mental state stable, and not even checking the reactions of strangers has helped me a lot.

I'm AuDHD FFS!! Many are GOING TO THINK i'M A WEIRDO, depending on whether im in in my comfort zones or not, BEST THING IS TO PAY TO NO ATTENTION TO PEOPLE WHO DONT UNDERSTAND, AND WHOSE OPINION IS GENERALLY OF NO VALUE. Because, what do they know!!? Nothing!!

sORRY 4 MESSY TYpING, THESE latest SOMAS ARE KICKING IN more STRONGLYthan expected !!

 

[placebonaut]

Jaysus. @Zopiclone bandit banned again?

fucking joke

I had an ultrasound on my liver this morning. But they sent me to a private clinic in Didsbury, an affluent south Manchester suburb that wishes it was in Cheshire.

Got some funny looks from the reception staff, but the actual medics were fine.

hope not too bad a reason, if you're up to sharing why we're listening!

either way hope you're ok

I think @placebonaut was suggesting a book on how long ZBs next ban might last. I thought he'd last longer than the timeframe PB suggested.

He used to survive at least a few months previously, IIIRC,

Imo the ban hammer is being used more frequently and for lesser reasons these days, to the detriment of the forum and free speech.

I was in the middle of it and imho that's pretty fucking harsh, and I feel doubly bad because he was sticking up for me #guilt

yes he was punchy, but I suspect prior convictions might have played a part.

what the fuck happened to being able to have a good old fashioned flame war?! say your piece and move on....ffs

how the fuck do you see how long for?!

One thing with AuDHD is that more and more I don't even bother clocking the reactions of strangers, or even looking at them. It;s meaningless; they simply don't understand and are incapable of empathy, so their reactions are of no value of importance imo.

Some may think that is an arrogant approach, and have said as much, but it boils down to keeping my own mood and mental state stable, and not even checking the reactions of strangers has helped me a lot.

best way to be, I long ago stopped giving a fuck about what other people think of me and I'm much happier as a result

I'm AuDHD FFS!! Many are GOING TO THINK i'M A WEIRDO,

being weird is normal, everyone is weird it's that some people hide it better or it's with things that are in private or not visible, it's just easier to single out those where it's more overt!

depending on whether im in in my comfort zones or not, BEST THING IS TO PAY TO NO ATTENTION TO PEOPLE WHO DONT UNDERSTAND, AND WHOSE OPINION IS GENERALLY OF NO VALUE. Because, what do they know!!? Nothing!!

sORRY 4 MESSY TYpING, THESE latest SOMAS ARE KICKING IN more STRONGLYthan expected !!

I'm having a soma day today too, currently had 2.5g, but I've also had what I can only describe as an heroic dose of 2C-B this morning (I'm on a blow out, my last 2 days of freedom before I have to cut back on shit in a major way!)

 

[Bleaney]

everyone is weird it's that some people hide it better or it's with things that are in private or not visible, it's just easier to single out those where it's more overt!

It may sound like a convenient excuse I'm making to myself for my benzo use, but they really do help me with this!! In some way they change my persona, so that people will interact with me, rather than avoid me like the plague.

I'm guessing it's something along the lines of helping me appear more approachable, relaxed, likeable, and friendly etc, which I have no doubt that benzos help me with all those things. And I probably appear just more "normal" in other ways too, that I've not yet been able to pin down, or make guesses as to exactly how this might be manifesting. Possibly largely due to the anxiety I'd otherwise be experiencing off the scale, is usually manageable, although I do get a few spikes!!

The amount of times I've tried benzos vs no benzos since starting on them, I nearly always get social 'positive reinforcement' when I use them, and a very negative opposite reaction, when I don't. It's like night and day, and the benefits are crystal clear,

So why would I make life more difficult for myself than I need to, plus they help enormously with my extremely high social anxiety, very poor ability to handle stress, plus benzos make you dependent on them just for sleep. The first 2 problems are squarely due to my neuro-divergence imo. Sucks that no NHS Dr in my area would be onboard with me regarding this, seeing as most Drs will not start new regular benzo scripts these days, NO MATTER WHAT!! SO I'm forced to use any supply routes that I can.

Even when my reasons for use are not recreational or abuse of that substance, they help me fit in a little better, so that I can earn money, with less social friction and difficulties. (This is still a regular issue, but it happens much less often than it would without using benzos, and usually settles down quite a lot, once people have got used to me in time, if I've had to start a new job.) Imo my Benzo use is probably enough to make the difference between being tolerably weird, to being intolerably weird - in the eyes of the neurotypical (non ASD or ADHD) majority. It is their world, with their social rules. Us marginalised minorities have to adjust to it as best as we can, by any means that we can.

 

[placebonaut]

It may sound like a convenient excuse I'm making to myself for my benzo use, but they really do help me with this!! In some way they change my persona, so that people will interact with me, rather than avoid me like the plague.

I'm guessing it's something along the lines of helping me appear more approachable, relaxed, likeable, and friendly etc, which I have no doubt that benzos help me with all those things. And I probably appear just more "normal" in other ways too, that I've not yet been able to pin down, or make guesses as to exactly how this might be manifesting.

The amount of times I've tried benzos vs no benzos since starting on them, I nearly always get social 'positive reinforcement' when I use them, and a very negative opposite reaction, when I don't. It's like night and day, and the benefits are crystal clear,

So why would I make life more difficult for myself than I need to, plus they help enormously with my extremely high social anxiety, very poor ability to handle stress, plus benzos make you dependent on them just for sleep. The first 2 problems are squarely due to my neuro-divergence imo. Sucks that no NHS Dr in my area would be onboard with me regarding this, seeing as most Drs will not start new regular benzo scripts these days, NO MATTER WHAT!! SO I'm forced to use any supply routes that I can.

Even when my reasons for use are not recreational or abuse of that substance, they help me fit in a little better, so that I can earn money, with less social friction and difficulties. (This is still a regular issue, but it happens much less often than it would without using benzos, and usually settles down quite a lot, once people have got used to me in time, if I've had to start a new job.) Imo my Benzo use is probably enough to make the difference between being tolerably weird, to being intolerably weird - in the eyes of the neurotypical (non ASD or ADHD) majority. It is their world, with their social rules. Us marginalised minorities have to adjust to it as best as we can, by any means that we can.

honestly that sounds exhausting!

I can completely understand why you're taking them, do you think you'll need to take them for the rest of your life?

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

this will only push it underground and shady fuckers will make it then sell it cheap and bash it out with God knows what.

I doubt it's worth bashing, 80mg/ml liquid nicotine, PG and VG are very cheap (Time for enterprising posters to stock up on those!)

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

@Shambles

Re your qustion about cleaning hash pipes (this stupid fuckin glitch in the system means I cannot quote your post without getting an 'OOOPS' message - when are the nerdboys gonna sort this out??)

Anyway, isopropyl alcohol, a mirror and a couple of Stanley blades is your answer.

Butane gas also works, but you've got to be bloody quick before it all evaporates.

Block the mouth piece of the pipe with your finger, pour a few ml of IPA into the bowl, block both ends then give it all a good fuckin shake!

Pour the solution onto the mirror and let dry.

Scrape up the residue with the blades, then stick it in yer pipe and smoke it!!!

 

[Bleaney]

honestly that sounds exhausting!

I can completely understand why you're taking them, do you think you'll need to take them for the rest of your life?

It is!!

The worst thing is that I rarely get 2 days off in a row, so I dont get the chance to re-charge enough.

My days off are usually spent doing the absolute bare minimum to keep life going. I just don't have the energy or motivation to do anything.

When I get 2 days off in a row, that is so much better. By the second day I'm usually at least a little more 'functional.'

Hopefully not, is the answer to your final query. When I retire, hopefully a few years early, one of my first priorities will be tapering myself off the benzos. At my own pace, under my own terms. As my anxiety is quite specifically social anxiety, I'd try to plan things around that, whilst not throwing my taper off for more than a few days.

All being well, I will have the ideal circumstances and opportunity get off them, with minimised social mental torture. As I wont be forced into unsuitable and highly challenging situations, like I was with every work day, for example.

The danger is in becoming too much of a recluse during this time. Yes the brain can take a very long time to heal after benzo use. and being AuDHD I;m almost certainly starting from a base point of GABA deficiency anyway, according to studies. So I'll have to deal with that as well as the rebound induced deficiencies

I will need to regulary socialise as much as posssible for my mental wellbeing, but that'll probably be minimal for the at least the 12 months of tapering down and off. And then I'd be wanting to increase that.

I have done a taper and abstinence before, but the abstinence was so hard in the socially demanding workplace that I was in. I won't have that problem this time, but, I will be that much older. Which won't help. I believe that it could more or less, sort of work out, and it will be one of my first priorities.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

just remembered my dream from last night which involved sticking broken up crack rocks into the side of a small cheese baguette, then realising while eating it that it doesn't work orally, so I began putting a lighter to one side of the baguette while toking on the other side and becoming pissed off at the lack of affect

wtf

 

[placebonaut]

It is!!

The worst thing is that I rarely get 2 days off in a row, so I dont get the chance to re-charge enough.

My days off are usually spent doing the absolute bare minimum to keep life going. I just don't have the energy or motivation to do anything.

When I get 2 days off in a row, that is so much better. By the second day I'm usually at least a little more 'functional.'

it's the merry go of survival isn't it

Hopefully not, is the answer to your final query. When I retire, hopefully a few years early, one of my first priorities will be tapering myself off the benzos. At my own pace, under my own terms. As my anxiety is quite specifically social anxiety, I'd try to plan things around that, whilst not throwing my taper off for more than a few days.

All being well, I will have the ideal circumstances and opportunity get off them, with minimised social mental torture. As I wont be forced into unsuitable and highly challenging situations, like I was with every work day, for example.

I prefer my own company most of the time generally, life is just so much easier when you don't have to make the effort to please everyone else, I can tolerate a couple of days a week max of that type of interaction at work but it's hard for me and I don't suffer from actual social anxiety.

I have a very good life long friend who suffers badly with social anxiety, it's crippling for him at times, he's been through CBT & the usual shitty meds you get in the UK, he's a childhood drug buddy of mine but I've not introduced him to my benzo stash because I'm pretty sure he'd not have enough self restraint....he had a bit of a coke problem a few years ago which I feel guilty for because I introduced him to it in the 1st place so I'm very reluctant for obvious reasons....

Great you have a plan, hopefully it's not too far away, then you get some sweet sweet freedom!

The danger is in becoming too much of a recluse during this time. Yes the brain can take a very long time to heal after benzo use. and being AuDHD I;m almost certainly starting from a base point of GABA deficiency anyway, according to studies. So I'll have to deal with that as well as the rebound induced deficiencies

I've been more and more reclusive since covid hit, and honestly I prefer it, BUT it does amplify the desire to not want to interact with people.

the past 6 months or so I've not worked which has really removed most of the interaction I did get except for with my family, and while I've enjoyed the solitude and peace, you do get "out of practice" from social interaction, I've certainly noticed that sort of feedback loop that's drive my motivation to interact with people down over time

This has been a choice for me personally, lots of life events going on and it's been a coping strategy in a large part - but couple that with soma (and maybe light benzo) withdrawal and I've really just wanted to lock myself away from the world mostly.

anyway, long winded way of saying that it's worth thinking about how you keep your social interaction "practice" in place to prevent from becoming too much of a recluse, because I've found that does have some downside for me - no idea what the right balance is, but I'm healing right now so isolation is required, figuring out the best balance is a problem for another day!

I will need to regulary socialise as much as posssible for my mental wellbeing, but that'll probably be minimal for the at least the 12 months of tapering down and off. And then I'd be wanting to increase that.

I have done a taper and abstinence before, but the abstinence was so hard in the socially demanding workplace that I was in. I won't have that problem this time, but, I will be that much older. Which won't help. I believe that it could more or less, sort of work out, and it will be one of my first priorities.

I think for me there's a difference between forced social interaction (work) and when I choose/want to interact, the later is much easier, the issue is that I need to be in the right frame of mind/mood to do it, if I am then I'm a social butterfly, in fact some people only ever see that side of me and think I'm a confident outgoing extrovert, not the introvert I actually am!

What I need is a hobby or social outlet that I can pick up and drop depending on my mood, but after 50+ years I'm fucked if I can find anything that works that keeps me interested enough.

if only there were any chemical substances that would make this easier....

 

[placebonaut]

just remembered my dream from last night which involved sticking broken up crack rocks into the side of a small cheese baguette, then realising while eating it that it doesn't work orally, so I began putting a lighter to one side of the baguette while toking on the other side and becoming pissed off at the lack of affect

wtf

you can totally make a pipe out of a baguette, are you sure it was a dream?

 

[Ki3ly]

A bit of cheddar, a slice of swiss A simple snack that is pure bliss

On crusty bread or crackers plain It washes out all daily pain

Cheese that crumbles to the floor This doth digestion, like the House of Lore

And for you Oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oooooooooo

Tasty things that are much feta !! When you toast real good Bruschetta

I hope this doesn't sound too sleazy Have a great day that is real cheesy !

Thank you for letting me in Gibberine You'll never know how much it does mean.

 

[alasdairm]

Imo the ban hammer is being used more frequently and for lesser reasons these days, to the detriment of the forum and free speech.

i just did a quick check. the number of formal warnings issued this year (year to date) is down about 25% over the same period last year.

that said, bans is a difficult metric to track absolutely because the discipline system is incremental i.e. some warnings will trigger a ban because of the user's history and some won't.

fucking joke

can you help me understand why you say this? do you know the reason for the ban? the warning history of the user, etc?

thanks.

alasdair

 

[BadBoy377]

fuck sake!!!!!
people can't be added to toss their Meth pipe packaging in the bin around here now.
That's all the flats need is Meth smokers, Jesus Christ this world is going to shit so quickly.

Now now, just cos someone owns a 'meth pipe' doesn't necessarily mean they are smoking the methamphetamine. A lot of these things have ornamental value too.

Mind you, remember that dug bit you the other week? Wisnae a dug. Was a really far gone meth head woman who had taken a liking to you and was flirting with you. Anyone left any bones or dead creatures on your door mat recently?

I'll just leave this here. Seems like the right place.