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Misc Sleeping drugs

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Bluelighter
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What are some good sleeping drugs?

Zopiclone gives me nightmares.
What about magnolia bark? Magnesium?
Theanine? Skullcap?
 
lemon balm, magnolia, camomile, blue lotus (crazy vivid dreams), valerian - I generally take a combo of 2-3 of these and rotate them around

old antihistamines - but these make me feel groggy as fuck

the zolpidem walrus

a sedating cannabis strain

might be worth considering the difference between something that helps you get to sleep and/or something that helps keep you asleep
 
Melatonin should in my opinion always be the first choice for a sleeping drug. Certainly more effective than dietary supplements such as magnesium, and safer and less harmful than stronger drugs. Cannabis may work for some. Alcohol may or may not work. Codeine is my favorite sleeping drug, but it’s hard to get without a prescription, and obviously problematic if used regularly. The same goes for benzodiazepines.
 
"Good" is a pretty loose category. Some drugs are very effective, but come with siginficant side effects, or lose their efficacy quickly due to tolerance buildup and are potentially addictive. It's also a matter of your personal response to each drug, of course, and of what your demands for a sleeping aid are - to aid in falling asleep, or in maintaining sleep, or both?

Some of what I have considered very effective drugs for inducing sleep (my main issue, not staying asleep, or falling back asleep if disturbed) that I have used each at least a handful of times, many for prolonged times:
- Benzodiazepines and nonbenzodiazepines, particularly temazepam, nitrazepam, flunitrazepam, lormetazepam, and zopiclone and zolpidem.
- Low doses of neuroleptic drugs such as quetiapine, olanzapine or levomepromazine. The tricyclic depressant amitriptyline has also worked.
- GBL or GHB.
- Tizanidine (Zanaflex, Sirdalud among other trade names), a skeletal muscle relaxant.
- Heavy doses of opioids also reliably induce sleep, but are obviously not an appropriate choice here.

The following have been moderately effective:
- Cannabis, except for when I was younger, when it reliably knocked me out
- Alcohol, especially when combined with cannabis - although obviously drinking enough will make you pass out eventually.
- First-generation antihistamines like hydroxyzine, diphenhydramine
- Mirtazapine, an anti-depressant.

All have various side effects, risks, and other properties that make them suitable for different purposes - long or short term use, or only sporadic, emergency use. They differ in whether or not you can rely on them if you have shit to do tomorrow. Some are addictive, some can be dangerous. Unfortunately, the most efficient ones tend to be the more 'hard' ones, and the ones that are more poorly suited to regular use. I have thankfully shaken off my need to regularly use stronger stuff to get to sleep. Mainly through lifestyle choices and investments in my sleeping environment.
 
I have trouble sleeping since 1975, I guess might have tried nearly everything. Many years ago when Ludes, and other hypnotic depressants were being prescribed, I had a script for dalmane for sleep. It is no longer available.
Nowadays I take Doxepin, clclobenzeprine, 9 mg melatonin. That’s it I sleep all night long
 
Microdose melatonin 0.3mg
Not having to take drugs and actually having REM cycles

Those are the best two for me. Sadly, all the other stuff kills the REM cycles anyway. Hello dark eye circles, my old friend.
 
Surprised nobody has mentioned this one; it's -very- effective for me and with the most of minimal side effects:

Trazadone 50mg

I will take one right at bedtime and I am I am out within ten minutes. What I really like about it though is the lack of grogginess /haze when I get up. Even after only four or five hours of sleep. But you need to make an effort to get up and get going. If you malinger around the bedsheets too long you will likely fall back asleep. Another plus for me are VIVID-ASS dreams. 90% of the time they are awesome and I'm back with my family having a good time. The depth , vivacity, and extreme detail from the dreams is very uncanny. Never have developed nitemares or anything overtly negative, but the realistic, cinematic detail in the dreams can be intense upon waking up & recalling the experience.

I only need to take one sporadically 2-3 a month at most. There is no urge to redose or dependency issues with it that I can perceive. It's very much nearly a perfect drug for insomnia in my case, and perplexed why it's not more well known for this (it is off-label use for insomnia , whereas it's "official" use is as an anti-depressant.)
 
I really envy you "sensitive" types who can get knocked out from a little lemon balm & micro-dosed melatonin. Sip of chamomile tea. Sheesh!!! Must be nice!!
 
Microdose melatonin 0.3mg
Not having to take drugs and actually having REM cycles

Those are the best two for me. Sadly, all the other stuff kills the REM cycles anyway. Hello dark eye circles, my old friend.

Yes. Almost all sedatives mess up your REM cycle. Sure, you fall asleep more easily, but the quality of sleep is worse.
 
I really envy you "sensitive" types who can get knocked out from a little lemon balm & micro-dosed melatonin. Sip of chamomile tea. Sheesh!!! Must be nice!!
Oh, believe me, I don't. But I've tried to distance myself from decades of relying on drugs for sleep, so outside of what I take for my pain which fucks up my sleep, I try to only use basic supplements. And I find melatonin only works for me microdosed. It helped me recover some REM stage activity and sleep slightly better, at least temporarily. Doesn't really do anything now. If I take any bullshit megadosed store-bought crap, I will feel like hammered dogshit all day the next day, if I sleep at all. That's a whole marketing scheme in and of itself.
 
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