best 7oh recovery program or method?

[neversickanymore]

Holy shit, I paid 45 bucks every month at my methadone clinic.

That’s all you paid a month? What does mm cost today?

 

[Bohochick]

post accute withdrawl, I didn't know either so looked it up for u and me

Thank You!

 

[Bohochick]

@Bohochick @puke
. It's worth learning how PAWS works. It explains a certain set of common symptoms, a certain phase of drug withdrawal. Myself, I can't explain it but there have been a lot of posts about it over the years if you do a search of BL

Thank You!

 

[PtahTek]

Nah. Not unless you KNOW you can stop at once use. But really, I don't see how it is significantly any different feeling than any other opioid agonist. It's nothing magic. It's just people hoping that it will be different this time so as give themselves an excuse to go down that opioid road again

great presentation, imo. simple, easy and convincing.

i do want the experience just to understand the hype but if it's like any other oid then there really isnt as much a pull. i would imagine that it would feel "gritty" - like kratom to me - as far as most "real" oids that i have experienced.

you always be breakin shit down and i appreciate it cause i am most times pressed for time and dont have hours to read through anbunch of legalese.

im sure there are proponents for 7-oh and would love to hear that "side" of the spectrum if there are any...? hope so.

ct wds from a couple substances had me going in and out of psychotic breaks for lack of.... months of it with bnz. started again - after a year off - lasting a little over a month or so and stopped non problem. tapered. and always had the meds mentioned if needed.

hope this time its easy-ish i do not expect pain free cessation just a softer landing.

honestly the first thing I look for when i come on is these days is a post displaying the formula to get free from 7-oh and really literally any other substance, *toxic relationship, life crisis etc.

be safe fam
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[neverendingtoothache]

Some of the bigger local smokeshops here just heavily discounted their entire stock. But I will never use 7 ever again. I have no desire to buy more ever again. I absolutely hate that crap now. But I was on it for a long time

Here locally in NC (at least the BFE mountain town I reside in) stopped carrying it across the board. Smoke shops, gas stations, etc. Most of the owners are ignorant to what the current legal status actually is, which is totally legal as of this writing. I'd wager the distributors the stores all use don't want to get caught with their pants down once the scheduling happens, because they'd have to give orders for destruction of product, as shipping it back would technically be illegal at that point. It seems the distributors and the local shops don't want the hassle of losing money when that happens, so instead of selling it to the last minute, they've all thrown their hands up and either stopped selling it (distributor/vendors) or buying it to sell (local shops). As of right now there is one big name supplier online that is still processing orders...I can only imagine they've been seeing a huge increase in sales the past 2 weeks since a lot of brick and mortar stores are no longer stocking it. 7oh may be highly addictive (as with almost everything in life), but it works great and wont kill you, which makes it excellent for harm reduction in my book.

I placed what might be my last order with the unnamed but aforementioned online supplier to the tune of about $2500, which is basically a year worth, plus enough SR from when the time comes to taper down, along with a handful of different supplements ive seen recommended for WD protocols. I have never placed an order over $100 before but desperate times call for desperate measures, as the saying goes. It'll all be sitting in my fridge with a bunch of dessicant packets.

 

[chippermonk]

Here locally in NC (at least the BFE mountain town I reside in) stopped carrying it across the board. Smoke shops, gas stations, etc. Most of the owners are ignorant to what the current legal status actually is, which is totally legal as of this writing. I'd wager the distributors the stores all use don't want to get caught with their pants down once the scheduling happens, because they'd have to give orders for destruction of product, as shipping it back would technically be illegal at that point. It seems the distributors and the local shops don't want the hassle of losing money when that happens, so instead of selling it to the last minute, they've all thrown their hands up and either stopped selling it (distributor/vendors) or buying it to sell (local shops). As of right now there is one big name supplier online that is still processing orders...I can only imagine they've been seeing a huge increase in sales the past 2 weeks since a lot of brick and mortar stores are no longer stocking it. 7oh may be highly addictive (as with almost everything in life), but it works great and wont kill you, which makes it excellent for harm reduction in my book.

I placed what might be my last order with the unnamed but aforementioned online supplier to the tune of about $2500, which is basically a year worth, plus enough SR from when the time comes to taper down, along with a handful of different supplements ive seen recommended for WD protocols. I have never placed an order over $100 before but desperate times call for desperate measures, as the saying goes. It'll all be sitting in my fridge with a bunch of dessicant packets.

How do you know what a year's supply is when tolerance goes up so much, so fast?
But good luck. Good idea also setting up the SR and supplements in advance

 

[neverendingtoothache]

How do you know what a year's supply is when tolerance goes up so much, so fast?
But good luck. Good idea also setting up the SR and supplements in advance

I was able to maintain a 100mg max dosage per day (25mg 4x spread out evenly) after 8 months of use. I wasnt chasing a high, just mitigating chronic pain.

 

[Jung and Stoopid]

Here locally in NC (at least the BFE mountain town I reside in) stopped carrying it across the board. Smoke shops, gas stations, etc. Most of the owners are ignorant to what the current legal status actually is, which is totally legal as of this writing. I'd wager the distributors the stores all use don't want to get caught with their pants down once the scheduling happens, because they'd have to give orders for destruction of product, as shipping it back would technically be illegal at that point. It seems the distributors and the local shops don't want the hassle of losing money when that happens, so instead of selling it to the last minute, they've all thrown their hands up and either stopped selling it (distributor/vendors) or buying it to sell (local shops). As of right now there is one big name supplier online that is still processing orders...I can only imagine they've been seeing a huge increase in sales the past 2 weeks since a lot of brick and mortar stores are no longer stocking it. 7oh may be highly addictive (as with almost everything in life), but it works great and wont kill you, which makes it excellent for harm reduction in my book.

I placed what might be my last order with the unnamed but aforementioned online supplier to the tune of about $2500, which is basically a year worth, plus enough SR from when the time comes to taper down, along with a handful of different supplements ive seen recommended for WD protocols. I have never placed an order over $100 before but desperate times call for desperate measures, as the saying goes. It'll all be sitting in my fridge with a bunch of dessicant packets.

I read the DEA banned it this month, guess I misread. Maybe they just started the process of banning it. My local smoke shops took it all off their shelf... but I just checked my usual online supplier and they are still selling it, but liquidating their stock.

Hard to pass up such deals, but in the end not really. Fuck 7oh. I've been addicted to many different drugs in my life and 7oh was definitely the most regrettable. It's not even a good high, it sucks. I have zero desire to stock up even if it were free. But I've been battling opioid addiction for nearly 25 years... so call me opinionated.

 

[Featherfall]

I read the DEA banned it this month, guess I misread. Maybe they just started the process of banning it. My local smoke shops took it all off their shelf... but I just checked my usual online supplier and they are still selling it, but liquidating their stock.

they have but are running into issues in regards to how to actually enforce it

 

[Ds]

My friend is hooked on this shit. & Since the shit is illegal here some of the shotty gas stations in town here sell the newer shit that converts into 7-OH in your liver or stomach, so just knowing you got to make your body work extra just so you can get fucked up has my that the wds from daily use for half suspiciona year will be more intense than just the regular 7-oH wds.
I mean he wants to get clean and he's got some suboxone(atleast a strip) but he doesn't ever, he'd promise there is always tomorrow, and then it's because taking any sub will possibly make him sick, so stuck at this dilemma.
Now I'm here going around doing some research on mixing the two things and not reading horror stories, with atleast something i can come back and tell him that he won't get sick, and it's like been so sad. I mean knowing his past IV heroin/meth user just has me worried that it could possibly go back to something like that because he's in a position where he doesn't really have any life expenses besides to Uber and get fucked up.
I've seen 4 relapses each beginning with taking those gas station drugs.

From me and my own story I'm prescribed Suboxone and have mentioned several times that if he wants to try to come off to just let me know, and maybe I can help.

 

[Featherfall]

My friend is hooked on this shit. & Since the shit is illegal here some of the shotty gas stations in town here sell the newer shit that converts into 7-OH in your liver or stomach, so just knowing you got to make your body work extra just so you can get fucked up has my that the wds from daily use for half suspiciona year will be more intense than just the regular 7-oH wds.
I mean he wants to get clean and he's got some suboxone(atleast a strip) but he doesn't ever, he'd promise there is always tomorrow, and then it's because taking any sub will possibly make him sick, so stuck at this dilemma.
Now I'm here going around doing some research on mixing the two things and not reading horror stories, with atleast something i can come back and tell him that he won't get sick, and it's like been so sad. I mean knowing his past IV heroin/meth user just has me worried that it could possibly go back to something like that because he's in a position where he doesn't really have any life expenses besides to Uber and get fucked up.
I've seen 4 relapses each beginning with taking those gas station drugs.

From me and my own story I'm prescribed Suboxone and have mentioned several times that if he wants to try to come off to just let me know, and maybe I can help.

sadly theres alot of storys of subs not working for 7oh, we dont know why yet. For some it can for alot not, if hid habit is really big and he cant fall back on regular leaf he should maybe consider methadone treatment.