Meth IV meth dosing

[FayeHarderway]

Though maybe 10 years ago or so, I was highly addicted to meth, I managed to loosen its grip and create some distance. Im 99% sober now because once every year or 3, I drop by to see how she's doing and I make a pit stop here at these forums with questions....

So towards the end of my season as a regular meth user, naturally I gravitated toward the needle. I was seeking a more intense high so badly that I essentially took a blind leap into the unknown. That being said, years later (many) Ive just now looked up what the popular "recommended doses" are from fellow users. And wow!. Holy shit.

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-do-you-mix-in-your-shot-of-meth?q=How%20much%20water%20do%20you%20mix%20in%20your%20shot%20of%20meth

"Anything under half a gram 20 cc. half gram to 1 I put 40 to 50 cc.. Makes them just right."

If Im not mistaken, 20cc is 2ml? For anything less than. 5g? Doesn't sound right...

But if they meant .2cc... thats terrifying!

Back when I was IV'ing regularly, granted I never did the research or even weighed the product. Id crush up a small shard, clean the bottom of a soda can and mix it with the water there, which was also essentially eyeballed. And Im n positive it wasn't no .5g with .2cc of water. Maybe .25g and .5cc water. That would send me. I think the 2 or 3 times I made them "risky" (in my opinion) maybe I just went .3 or .35g, and probably about the same water... I was gone. Im glad I was home because full psychosis in my room.

Guys, what are we dosing our shots with?

Edit: Im also noticing a smell much stronger than I remember before. The mixture of water and meth is strong and unpleasant. Has it always been that way?

 

[Deleted member 594011]

1ml syringe is 100cc's. I would dilute it more than they are suggesting because it noticeably burns your veins and they won't last long.

 

[seedee]

i always loaded the jib into the back of the syringe and then i would pull water into it till all the meth was soaked and pull just a smidge more water in. maybe less than a unit more water tha there was meth in the syringe. then bang. always rocked my fuckin world. so if your crushed job was 25 units i'd pull water in til it was at about 30 units or a little better. blast off

 

[CfZrx]

I knew a lad who would always fill his needle full of water and just sloooooowly drip the drug-water into his vein over the course of a half-hour. I guess that's a good way to make the fun last as long as it can, tho i guess u miss the "blast-off" type of rush.

 

[seedee]

i do miss meth every day. been clean off the meth for 11 years! ** correction.. 11 years not months

 

[Keif' Richards]

Yes, it´s pretty outrageous isn´t it? People injecting 0.5g-1g of Methamphetamine in one go? It´s hard to imagine. But it happens. We have people on the street right now using enough Fentanyl that they are 10x more Opioid tolerant than anyone on the street 10 years ago. Tolerance is a crazy thing.

I would argue that it´s pretty difficult to get the dose ¨right¨. I think most addicts who inject are just injecting however much they are able to get at once by the time they are at the tail end of their addiction. For reference, I´m not a major Meth user. I´ve used it a few times in my life. I remember buying a gram of Meth years ago. It got me so high that I was up for 4 days and by the end of the fourth day I still had enough left to make me completely psychotic for 48 more hours, so 4-5 days of being totally fucked.

I was just insufflating it too. When you´re injecting, it´s at least 1/3 more potent. Pretty crazy.

 

[latenighter]

I've been out of the game for like 13 years. About to dabble and I think .1g will be plenty. I think the most I did was .7g one time. Felt like blood was coming out of my ass and ears. Looking back it was mostly a warm liquid sensation which I assumed was blood.

For those that know when you over do it you actually get tired. Like your initially stoned as fuck before the "amped part" comes on.

Also in my experience the thickness of the shot was very much related to the potency of the rush. We would put as little as water as we possibly could to get it to be able to shoot. Our aim was "syrup".

.25g could be very different if it was setup with .2cc water vs .5cc water.

 

[opiatekrzy]

Though maybe 10 years ago or so, I was highly addicted to meth, I managed to loosen its grip and create some distance. Im 99% sober now because once every year or 3, I drop by to see how she's doing and I make a pit stop here at these forums with questions....

So towards the end of my season as a regular meth user, naturally I gravitated toward the needle. I was seeking a more intense high so badly that I essentially took a blind leap into the unknown. That being said, years later (many) Ive just now looked up what the popular "recommended doses" are from fellow users. And wow!. Holy shit.

https://www.quora.com/How-much-water-do-you-mix-in-your-shot-of-meth?q=How%20much%20water%20do%20you%20mix%20in%20your%20shot%20of%20meth

"Anything under half a gram 20 cc. half gram to 1 I put 40 to 50 cc.. Makes them just right."

If Im not mistaken, 20cc is 2ml? For anything less than. 5g? Doesn't sound right...

But if they meant .2cc... thats terrifying!

Back when I was IV'ing regularly, granted I never did the research or even weighed the product. Id crush up a small shard, clean the bottom of a soda can and mix it with the water there, which was also essentially eyeballed. And Im n positive it wasn't no .5g with .2cc of water. Maybe .25g and .5cc water. That would send me. I think the 2 or 3 times I made them "risky" (in my opinion) maybe I just went .3 or .35g, and probably about the same water... I was gone. Im glad I was home because full psychosis in my room.

Guys, what are we dosing our shots with?

Edit: Im also noticing a smell much stronger than I remember before. The mixture of water and meth is strong and unpleasant. Has it always been that way?

I don't recommend going over .2g when taking a.shot
Actually .2 may be too intense

 

[Deleted member 546865]

Yes, it´s pretty outrageous isn´t it? People injecting 0.5g-1g of Methamphetamine in one go? It´s hard to imagine. But it happens. We have people on the street right now using enough Fentanyl that they are 10x more Opioid tolerant than anyone on the street 10 years ago. Tolerance is a crazy thing.

I would argue that it´s pretty difficult to get the dose ¨right¨. I think most addicts who inject are just injecting however much they are able to get at once by the time they are at the tail end of their addiction. For reference, I´m not a major Meth user. I´ve used it a few times in my life. I remember buying a gram of Meth years ago. It got me so high that I was up for 4 days and by the end of the fourth day I still had enough left to make me completely psychotic for 48 more hours, so 4-5 days of being totally fucked.

I was just insufflating it too. When you´re injecting, it´s at least 1/3 more potent. Pretty crazy.

I have to get this out for my own mental health. I am coming down from using “Tina” for the first time, I went on a second date with a guy that you’d never think does Meth. He was clean, nice teeth, and fucking SMART. Said all the right things- nowhere near a “tweaker.” He’s also fucking gorgeous.

The second night we hung out he offered me to smoke some “Tina” and being in the insanely depressed state of life right now (I won’t get into details but know I’m at a low, scary point in my life) and just wanting to feel SOMETHING, I said fuck it and out my lips around the pipe and hit it. We did this a couple time driving to the motel. (Yeah I know. We both have clean sexual recent records so don’t judge my asss) I felt nice but not like insane from the couple hits we smoked. At the hotel he offered me “hot rails” which I can barely remember… I think I did like 2 of those?

As He was walking to the table when one of his rig caps came off and fell on the bed. I noticed it right away and he admitted freely to using intravenously recently for about 7 months . (I have been a former IV heroin but sober since 2009) At this point I’m so fucking lit from the the meth, the high on crushing on him and the fucking seexxx…HOLY. I keep Telling myself “I need a night like this. I deserve it” and before I knew it I asked if I could have a shot. Without hesitation and my consent he said he was dying for one- perfect timing and loaded a .5 shot. And of course, I flew into a world of swirling heat and pure, hot, bliss. My pupils dilate so fast the room actually becomes lighter. I have to stand up to catch my breath, not afraid, but delighted. By this time I’ve now taken meth for the first time in my life, in 3 separate methods: smoking it, hotrailing it and lastly- IV shots in the span of 10 hours.

Next thing I knew is that it’s 4am and he’s like chilling’ on this shit. Laying on the bed flaccid of course and I’m talking like a spaz. My insides legit vibrating. And we smoke some more and touch each other some more as we had all night until 930-ish am. As we’re about to leave the motel I ask for one more shot and happily obliges. This time I ask for “a little more than the last) he makes a somewhat surprised face, asks in I’m sure and I hand him my arm. He sloooowly pushes .65 in to me and again, I’m booted back into the hot, blissful universe I was not only hour ago.

He drives me home. I talk the entire way, way too damn much… I couldn’t stop. I’m so cringed out by how many fucking topics I brought up yapping away a mile a minute but not as cringed out and disgusted I am with myself now. I asked him how much he thinks I did this past Saturday (bc idk wtf meth even looked like until now)- two nights ago and he said probably about 2gs…over 9-10 hours, which I’m assuming is a pretty heroic first time dose? I took seroquil and 2 Xanax after he brought me home around 10:30pm after not doing any more since 930 am. The euphoria was gone and I’m left riddled with guilt, tired eyes but a an intense feeling of anxiety like no other. I feel hollow but still high…it’s hard to explain. I smoke weed and it makes me feel worse. More strung out.

I was like in an afterglow high all of yesterday and had to work 9 hours. My body is aching like the flu. I go from normal to sweating super fast and I’m trying to put down a yogurt and keep drinking water. I’m still not sure how I pulled that off. Any time I moved quickly my face would get hot and I get lightheaded.

I came home repeated the seroquil and Xanax and I got about about 6 hours of sleep last night. Today all I feel is anxiety, I have to keep telling myself to breathe, drink water, and eat what I can. It’s like I can’t even nap yet without a benzo. I’m riddled with guilt. My mind keeps replaying scenes of that night and part of me wants more while the other is like “WTF ARE YOU DOINGGG?!” How much longer do you think I’ll feel like this? I’ve definitely almost completely come down and now I’m left with a sore body, a racing mind, a want to sleep but can’t..

I fucking hate myself. For all the people who say I’m stupid for doing this- I KNOW. I have been self-destructive my entire life. There’s nothing shitty you can say to me that I haven’t said myself.

The WORST PART? I feel like bc of the chemsex, it was delicious I feel connected it him bc my serotonin receptors were being flooded to the max while we’re together that night. I’m cooked aren’t I? There’s no damn way this man feels the same way. My gut tells me he really likes me, but he likes meth more. He’s also Pansexual. And veryyyy openly sexual.

If I’m not strong enough to never touch this shit again, I’m so afraid of what’s going to happen with my life. I don’t understand why I cant function without drugs in my life. This is my own doing and I’m certainly paying for it. Any tips or advice is insanely welcome

 

[TrippyMasta]

I have to get this out for my own mental health. I am coming down from using “Tina” for the first time, I went on a second date with a guy that you’d never think does Meth. He was clean, nice teeth, and fucking SMART. Said all the right things- nowhere near a “tweaker.” He’s also fucking gorgeous.

The second night we hung out he offered me to smoke some “Tina” and being in the insanely depressed state of life right now (I won’t get into details but know I’m at a low, scary point in my life) and just wanting to feel SOMETHING, I said fuck it and out my lips around the pipe and hit it. We did this a couple time driving to the motel. (Yeah I know. We both have clean sexual recent records so don’t judge my asss) I felt nice but not like insane from the couple hits we smoked. At the hotel he offered me “hot rails” which I can barely remember… I think I did like 2 of those?

As He was walking to the table when one of his rig caps came off and fell on the bed. I noticed it right away and he admitted freely to using intravenously recently for about 7 months . (I have been a former IV heroin but sober since 2009) At this point I’m so fucking lit from the the meth, the high on crushing on him and the fucking seexxx…HOLY. I keep Telling myself “I need a night like this. I deserve it” and before I knew it I asked if I could have a shot. Without hesitation and my consent he said he was dying for one- perfect timing and loaded a .5 shot. And of course, I flew into a world of swirling heat and pure, hot, bliss. My pupils dilate so fast the room actually becomes lighter. I have to stand up to catch my breath, not afraid, but delighted. By this time I’ve now taken meth for the first time in my life, in 3 separate methods: smoking it, hotrailing it and lastly- IV shots in the span of 10 hours.

Next thing I knew is that it’s 4am and he’s like chilling’ on this shit. Laying on the bed flaccid of course and I’m talking like a spaz. My insides legit vibrating. And we smoke some more and touch each other some more as we had all night until 930-ish am. As we’re about to leave the motel I ask for one more shot and happily obliges. This time I ask for “a little more than the last) he makes a somewhat surprised face, asks in I’m sure and I hand him my arm. He sloooowly pushes .65 in to me and again, I’m booted back into the hot, blissful universe I was not only hour ago.

He drives me home. I talk the entire way, way too damn much… I couldn’t stop. I’m so cringed out by how many fucking topics I brought up yapping away a mile a minute but not as cringed out and disgusted I am with myself now. I asked him how much he thinks I did this past Saturday (bc idk wtf meth even looked like until now)- two nights ago and he said probably about 2gs…over 9-10 hours, which I’m assuming is a pretty heroic first time dose? I took seroquil and 2 Xanax after he brought me home around 10:30pm after not doing any more since 930 am. The euphoria was gone and I’m left riddled with guilt, tired eyes but a an intense feeling of anxiety like no other. I feel hollow but still high…it’s hard to explain. I smoke weed and it makes me feel worse. More strung out.

I was like in an afterglow high all of yesterday and had to work 9 hours. My body is aching like the flu. I go from normal to sweating super fast and I’m trying to put down a yogurt and keep drinking water. I’m still not sure how I pulled that off. Any time I moved quickly my face would get hot and I get lightheaded.

I came home repeated the seroquil and Xanax and I got about about 6 hours of sleep last night. Today all I feel is anxiety, I have to keep telling myself to breathe, drink water, and eat what I can. It’s like I can’t even nap yet without a benzo. I’m riddled with guilt. My mind keeps replaying scenes of that night and part of me wants more while the other is like “WTF ARE YOU DOINGGG?!” How much longer do you think I’ll feel like this? I’ve definitely almost completely come down and now I’m left with a sore body, a racing mind, a want to sleep but can’t..

I fucking hate myself. For all the people who say I’m stupid for doing this- I KNOW. I have been self-destructive my entire life. There’s nothing shitty you can say to me that I haven’t said myself.

The WORST PART? I feel like bc of the chemsex, it was delicious I feel connected it him bc my serotonin receptors were being flooded to the max while we’re together that night. I’m cooked aren’t I? There’s no damn way this man feels the same way. My gut tells me he really likes me, but he likes meth more. He’s also Pansexual. And veryyyy openly sexual.

If I’m not strong enough to never touch this shit again, I’m so afraid of what’s going to happen with my life. I don’t understand why I cant function without drugs in my life. This is my own doing and I’m certainly paying for it. Any tips or advice is insanely welcome

Hey there. I'm sad to see that your account has been deleted. Hopefully this still does somehow reach you and/or someone else in a similar situation.

I've been using drugs for 16 years. I first tried meth about 13 years ago and I've been using it almost daily for 6 years. You seem to be going down that road so I will spare you the "stop while you can!" B.S. We all know that's the best thing to do, but it's not what many of us end up doing. So instead I'll give you some tips to help keep you relatively healthy.

Make sure you eat food and hydrate yourself, seasoned users like myself can smoke a fat bowl and eat right after, but people who are new to getting spun are going to have a very hard time eating. Eat before you use even though you probably don't want to wait. Light and moist/juicy foods like certain fruits or a hearty soup are things that even a rookie just getting their cherry popped by Tina should be able to force down pretty soon after dosing. If you don't eat you won't really drink either so just keep that in mind too. (Don't worry you'll still lose weight if that's something you are looking forward to, don't make yourself die of malnourishment). Make sure you practice good dental hygiene, floss (GENTLY!) once every night. Brush a few times a day (personally I usually do 3 but it can be anywhere from 2 to 4) BRUSH GENTLY! Also, try to keep it to 2 minutes not twenty! Aggressive brushing especially too long, over time will cause gum recession. If you smoke, be it a pipe or a bubbler, put the stem behind your teeth (if whoever you smoking with got an issue with it FUCK 'EM, even if it's their pookie FUCK 'EM, your teeth are worth more than a damn 6 dollar pipe. I sleep almost every night but for the first couple of years Ive stayed up for a week at a time, many, many, too many times. My record was 9 days (give or take 1 day). Don't do that, that destroys your body and mind so quickly. If you can't seem to put the shards down long enough to get some regular sleep take something to put you to sleep. If Xanax just makes you rob crack dealers, then the one sure fire method of getting sleep no matter how spun the fuck out you are is ***Seroquel***. You will wake up 8 hours later no matter how high you are. Do your best to try and just use meth as an enhancement, not as something to get lost in. It's great for working! If you can find things to do besides having sex or masturbating that's a great way to have the mindset of using this drug as the tool it was designed to be. I love playing guitar and singing songs that I write, sometimes I draw or paint every now and then. My point is, if I'm completely out of my mind in a psychosis because I just slammed a huge shot, I won't be able to play or sing, so I don't really like being like that anymore. I have written some interesting stuff that has evolved into lyrics many times in a psychosis but that's neither here nor there. When I was younger I was literally getting so fucked up I was constantly an inch away from death. That slowly subsided until I have finally gotten tired of literally poisoning myself. It will happen for you too, but it's better if you don't get there there hard way. I feel like I'm leaving something out ...