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Why do people like Ketamine?

evo4ever said:
I tried Ketamine for the first time over the weekend and it was a frightening experience! Why do people like this stuff? I don't get it.
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not sure how much you had but jumping straight into a Khole can be quite overwhelming, I would start small and get use to the feeling and gradually work up to a hole, getting closer and closer until you're comfy with the feeling and understand it better before you jump in. You can skirt around the edge of it and dip your toe in so to speak.

I actually more often that not take lower dose sub-hole ket, nice woozy dreamy feeling, nice to socialise on and/or go out to a bar, totally different experience than a full on hole.
 
It can be an acquired taste. Set and setting plays a big part, and that encompasses some things that are relatively uncontrollable like one's default baseline psychological and neurological tendencies. Why do some people like pineapple on pizza, and other people hate it? These questions are tiresome if you don't even bother to articulate your experience beyond "frightening", if you want people to explain the appeal that ketamine has to them (and I'd be happy to do so), I'd invite you to please first explain why you didn't enjoy your experience, as well as some more details about the nature of it, ie, the fuckin' basics, dose, where were you, who were you with (if anyone), what did you do (or try to do, if anything)... For the record, I do get why some people don't like it, dissociatives are very weird drugs in many ways and there are elements of the dissociative experience that I don't like very much either, even as a fairly staunch fan of them, and especially ketamine specifically. But come on now, let's have a little more effort from you if we're gonna have this discussion, please. Don't mean to sound mean although I notice myself being kinda dismissive and grouchy a lot these days, haha, just these kinda threads come up all the time and it's just unanswerable if you don't at least try to explain where you're coming from. It's just a pineapple on pizza debate that may as well be a poll - people just have different tastes.
 
Vastness said:
It can be an acquired taste. Set and setting plays a big part, and that encompasses some things that are relatively uncontrollable like one's default baseline psychological and neurological tendencies. Why do some people like pineapple on pizza, and other people hate it? These questions are tiresome if you don't even bother to articulate your experience beyond "frightening", if you want people to explain the appeal that ketamine has to them (and I'd be happy to do so), I'd invite you to please first explain why you didn't enjoy your experience, as well as some more details about the nature of it, ie, the fuckin' basics, dose, where were you, who were you with (if anyone), what did you do (or try to do, if anything)... For the record, I do get why some people don't like it, dissociatives are very weird drugs in many ways and there are elements of the dissociative experience that I don't like very much either, even as a fairly staunch fan of them, and especially ketamine specifically. But come on now, let's have a little more effort from you if we're gonna have this discussion, please. Don't mean to sound mean although I notice myself being kinda dismissive and grouchy a lot these days, haha, just these kinda threads come up all the time and it's just unanswerable if you don't at least try to explain where you're coming from. It's just a pineapple on pizza debate that may as well be a poll - people just have different tastes.
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It's almost impossible to describe how I felt. Basically when I snorted it I immediately got a very cold feeling in my nose and then it felt like I was stuck in time and dropped to the floor and I got an intense feeling of detachment like an "out of body feeling", complete numbness and the rest felt like I was on a different planet. I think I took too much tbh.
 
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evo4ever said:
It's almost impossible to describe how I felt. Basically when I snorted it I immediately got a very cold feeling in my nose and then it felt like I was stuck in time and dropped to the floor and I got an intense feeling of detachment like an "out of body feeling", complete numbness and the rest felt like I was on a different planet. I think I took too much tbh.
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sounds like a hole, how much did you snort?

you can hole on a lot less than you might imagine, especially if it's s-iso (4-5 small bumps/a mini line will do it for me), race needs more but I find it hard to snort enough of it to hole if I'm doing it socially without my nose dribbling like a tap.
 
evo4ever said:
It's almost impossible to describe how I felt. Basically when I snorted it I immediately got a very cold feeling in my nose and then it felt like I was stuck in time and dropped to the floor and I got an intense feeling of detachment like an "out of body feeling", complete numbness and the rest felt like I was on a different planet. I think I took too much tbh.
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You took too much at once. You may enjoy similar levels of intoxication if you give yourself time to adjust to the effects.

I recommend doing small lines at like 10-40mg and repeating. The pharmacology and headspace are very well suited to dose titration, unlike psychedelics. I'm usually looking to have a fun time goofing around with friends for several hours, talking and making a joint playlist, before slowly becoming so out of it that doing anything becomes a chore. Then you can just lay down and sort of massage your own brain. Feels very therapeutic but also extremely euphoric.

It should be combined with weed imo, if you like weed. Small amounts of alcohol pair well with it too.
 
Mjäll said:
You took too much at once. You may enjoy similar levels of intoxication if you give yourself time to adjust to the effects.

I recommend doing small lines at like 10-40mg and repeating. The pharmacology and headspace are very well suited to dose titration, unlike psychedelics. I'm usually looking to have a fun time goofing around with friends for several hours, talking and making a joint playlist, before slowly becoming so out of it that doing anything becomes a chore. Then you can just lay down and sort of massage your own brain. Feels very therapeutic but also extremely euphoric.

It should be combined with weed imo, if you like weed. Small amounts of alcohol pair well with it too.
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I experimented with it yesterday and I snorted a much smaller line maybe 75% less and the effects were still quite profound. I didn't realise you only need small lines to feel the effects. I've noticed when the effects wear off I can still feel a vague floaty after glow, is that normal?
 
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evo4ever said:
Does it mix well with Oxycodone and Pregabalin?
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I don't do opioids but regularly have ket with pregab, though I never try to hole when I take them together, it's just a few bumps, very nice combo imho. I've never pushed the ket too far while on pregab, mainly because I've also usually had diazepam a few beers and some soma by then (HR something something watch out for CNS depression).

you've made me think though, I wonder what a light khole would be like on pregab hmmmm, I get OEV from pregab if I take enough, maybe if I cut the soma and diazepam out a bit more ket.....

argh, must. stop. doing. combos.
 
just recently tried it and it shifted something in me that seems to be stable idk
.tried it afterward as recreational and didnt care for it. i feel i probably i only like the "hole" as thats what my original experience was. twice within a few hours. it is a milestone in my life.

not sure if i actually need anything else from k. not sure what else it could provide.... respect.

on to the next clinical trial(s). 😁
 
paranoid android said:
Pineapple pizza was the the greatest invension ever imo
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i misread this earlier, please tell me that's with ham
PtahTek said:
just recently tried it and it shifted something in me that seems to be stable idk
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never heard anyone say something like this before, what do you mean by stable? shifted in what way?

PtahTek said:
not sure if i actually need anything else from k. not sure what else it could provide.... respect.
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I'm fortunate that I don't really need the anxiolytic effects from the R-ISO side, but the khole side is very therapeutic if you interact with it in the right way, lots of introspection and acceptance done very objectively given the dissociation & 3rd person view, you don't even need to go that deep to hit this. It exercised my demons because it's objective.

Issue is that the therapeutic effect wears off for me over time, I think I need a booster hole to reconnect. What I'm struggling with is controlling the experience enough to get that therapeutic effect repeatedly - not sure if it's dosage, mindset going into things, quality, inexperience, lack of guidance, or frequency, hopefully i can find it again and it's fun finding it at the same time.
 
GaumarolBostich said:
Everyone with a reasonable taste is horrified by pineapple on pizza. Ask an italien. *notserious*

Sorry by jumping in a serious thread, I just couldn't control my humour centre.
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What's pineapple got to do with anything lol? As for the Ket this is a drug that can't be taken all the time otherwise you'll forget about reality lol.
 
Dissos are only fun/party like when you add 75 ~ 125mg DPH/Benadryl. I also view NT brains doing Ketamine you either get Classic autism or Schizophrenia not just pure psychosis, With CA causing the outright psychedelic-like effects people crave.

NMDA antagonism only produces psychosis. D2 agonism Is a psychedelic receptor complex but It cold/darker than 5HT2A agonists, That easy to pick up on.
 
placebonaut said:
what do you mean by stable?
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that the elemental "shift" remains without having to re-dose. i read that you need the "booster" every once in a while... just hope its not the case for all (me).
placebonaut said:
shifted in what way?
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i can only liken it to a polar reversal. where i saw fear i now feel curiosity. my beloved cocoon of has become a prison and i escape evey chance. external focus to distract has become an internal journey to explore in silence and away from as much external stimuli as possible. external criticisms have become a lens through wich i observe my own undesirable traits. the list could go on but hope this gives a little insight as to where its going.
placebonaut said:
- not sure if it's dosage, mindset going into things, quality, inexperience, lack of guidance, or frequency
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maybe all?

but yes the hole is where it was at for me. it was my first go so maybe thats anthing, idk.
 
PtahTek said:
that the elemental "shift" remains without having to re-dose. i read that you need the "booster" every once in a while... just hope its not the case for all (me).
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not sure how long ago you holed, would be interesting to see how long the shift stays for. I can relate to what you say, I just find for myself it does fade over time.
PtahTek said:
maybe all?
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quite possibly, I'm quite inexperienced with ket
 
placebonaut said:
how long ago you holed
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just for the record and for hindsight sake:
2 months maybe a little less.
middle to last week of may sounds right... 2026.
ed: or the first week...? 🤔 lol

tryin something else and not quite getting where I would like so dude says hes chosen to help others get the best experience possible so im thinkin. yeah, i know him, hes not a perve and hes quite rounded regarding substance use.

thinkin

placebonaut said:
I'm quite inexperienced with ket
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me also.
first and im going to consider only use of it was very profound to me. i am super grateful to have experienced it regardless the long term residuals or lack thereof (already been a couple months). the experience was, to me, worth asking for. 🙏

will update at a later date hopefully if memory stays intact

🤪
 
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