Benzos A Good, Maybe Even a Legal Sedative Alternative to Benzodiazepines

[notsmokeymcpot42088]

Last I checked amanita muscara was legal in the US -- they use to sell it on ebay. They also sold poppy pods at that time so this is awhile ago ...

 

[Syntherize]

Last I checked amanita muscara was legal in the US -- they use to sell it on ebay. They also sold poppy pods at that time so this is awhile ago ...

Yes, it is 100% legal, but I don’t wanna mess with it.

 

[SealSlapper]

Good Evening Everyone,​

Right now, I have "Clonazafone," which is a Clonazepam prodrug, and "Mephenaqualone," which are essentially Quaaludes.
Both are positive allosteric modulators on the GABA-A receptors, leading to significant tolerance development after just two days.

Is there anyone who might know of an alternative? It would be even better if it's legal!
Unfortunately, Phenibut has been illegal in my country since 2023, and I am already aware of Pregabalin and Gabapentin.

Stay Safe, Mana0909

I took a bunch of clonazepam once. I didn't feel like I was particularly drunk or high but I was pretty much incapable of feeling depressed or anxious throughout the experience. I was definitely walking like a drunkard though and my dad noticed it so he knew something was up. Overall I didn't feel very euphoric, high or sedated, just like pretty normal with no usual depression or anxiety. I was like taking a very strong anti-depressant without the side-effects of lethargy and sleepiness. I guess it's an ok drug for depressed people. Definitely not very recreational though.

 

[Troppo]

Be careful with zopiclone and eszopiclone. I was using zopiclone every night for several months for sleep and it began to cause really bad anxiety during the day, and I mean REALLY bad. Obviously it was causing next-day, between-dosing withdrawals. I was using 10 mg one night and 15 mg the next, then back to 10 mg. It was so bad that I began to use other GABAergics during the day (e.g. carisoprodol, diazepam) to handle the anxiety of withdrawal. I wasn't drinking at the time either. I had to end up seeing an addiction specialist, who prescribed me 10 mg of diazepam per day initially, then reducing slowly to zero. The complete switch to diazepam removed all anxiety and withdrawals, because it is much longer-acting that zopiclone, and it was easy to get off it because I was only on it for about two months.

 

[Shade369]

Last I checked amanita muscara was legal in the US -- they use to sell it on ebay. They also sold poppy pods at that time so this is awhile ago ...

it's still legal, (Amanita Muscaria and Pantherina) you can buy a muscimol extract for sleep and it won't cause hallucinations as long as all of the ibotenic acid has been converted (if you drink the tea and sweat it can smell like the mushroom even fully decarbed, not a pleasant smell) and you can buy capsules that are partial muscimol/ibotenic acid for during the day when needed for anxiety but too much of the ibotenic acid can cause unpleasant hallucinations,
I recommend a trustworthy online vendor that specializes in Amanita Muscaria rather than ebay or some random vape store though. (but that's with all herbal medicine)

 

[Troppo]

it's still legal, (Amanita Muscaria and Pantherina) you can buy a muscimol extract for sleep and it won't cause hallucinations as long as all of the ibotenic acid has been converted (if you drink the tea and sweat it can smell like the mushroom even fully decarbed, not a pleasant smell) and you can buy capsules that are partial muscimol/ibotenic acid for during the day when needed for anxiety but too much of the ibotenic acid can cause unpleasant hallucinations,
I recommend a trustworthy online vendor that specializes in Amanita Muscaria rather than ebay or some random vape store though. (but that's with all herbal medicine)

This is something I never considered. I doubt I'll be able to buy it at any shop here in Aus, but online is a different matter.

 

[Shade369]

Never took amanita myself...not really eager too but sleep is sleep. The z drugs werent great for me -- metal mouth and the only script i would LITERALLY lose. Not eat all of, not take early, legit just lose the bottle....(ambien)

if you can excuse some light blasphemy I always wondered if ol Jesus could have ate a bunch of amanita muscara and just pissed that red psychoactive substance back out --- and ppl already drunk just went "Yea im definitely more messed up than before!" --- Water into wine!!

You are not completley far off, water to wine is an alchemical transfomation from within, (our body is water, Spirit and mind is liquor/wine and the Soul is referred to lamp-Oil.)
Turning water into wine is giving someone wisdom so they can have a deeper understanding, so I believe when it's said at the "wedding" (that's another esoteric rabbit hole) it means they have understood and would like more of their water turned to wine. (they'd like to receive more deeper understanding) this is why Yeshua taught much in secret, if you read the Gospel of Thomas it has many coded parallels to the Kabbalah, such as-
"Turn the female, male and the male into female" refers to Jachin and Boaz, (Severity and Mercy) The parents which he said you will hate when you learn the truth. They create friction and keep us from fully going within ourselves.

This is where psychedelics help so it's not blasphemy at all.

Psilocybin in shrooms (not Amanita) puts your brain in a synchronized gamma state and can lead to a deeper understanding as well as effortless action dampening the veil created by the friction.
Psychedelics are really good, when used properly, to gain deeper understanding if you truly seek, then ask, if you "have the ears to hear and the eyes to see." then you will gain understanding as long as you try not to let personal bias or the friction of the pillars to cloud your judgement of the experience.