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UK's new internet laws, are we going to lose our anonymity, and become as heavily censored and monitored as China, North Korea, Russia etc?

^Oh haha I mispoke I thought we were in politics; which things are stricter in (?) I have been vaguely led to believe...

Nvm let the insults fly haha

on topic -- I probably wouldnt post my face on bluelight knowing that website exists - kind of creepy
 
From a BBC article on recent UK Internet ID requirements.

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UK's new internet laws, are we going to lose our anonymity, and become as heavily censored and monitored as China, North Korea, Russia etc?
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Yes.
 
As I've said, open a .gov account - which you basically have no choice but to - and some of the things they know would blow your mind.

I'm at a stage where my goose is cooked anyway, so I don't mind anybody knowing what I've had a wank over. Probably should be careful about certain literature, but they honestly won't bother.

This was a Tory legacy policy under the pretence of 'protecting children', and I was disappointed the Labour Party carried it through.

But what was the alternative? Social media use among young people HAS done some hugely significant harm. The electorate are going to go for that, and not the arguments or rights of you or I.
 
The mainstream (state propaganda) views seem to be all in favour of these dystopian, authoritarian, and draconian controls and surveillance measures.

Those that care about civil liberties don't seem to be given the opportunity to air those views. I say this on the basis of listening to some radio 4 program this afternoon, where everyone was instep about what a great thing all of this new legislation is. Even stating that the children themselves largely support it.

This conveniently ignores VPN usage having gone up by a huge amount amongst the under 16s since the implementation of all of this began rolling out.
 
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Bleaney said:
The mainstream views seem to be all in favour of these dystopian, authoritarian, and draconian controls and surveillance measures.

Those that care about civil liberties don't seem to be given the opportunity to air those views. I say this on the basis of listening to some radio 4 program this afternoon, where everyone was instep about what a great thing all of this new legislation is. Even stating that the children themselves largely support it.

This conveniently ignores VPN usage having gone up by a huge amount amongst the under 16s since the implementation of all of this began rolling out.
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It's been a long time since civil liberties haven't been mortally threatened by government agendas. But I still think that ultimately we'll fail to follow through with our intentions, because we're British.
 
I'm massively against this from a civil liberties perspective, but don't give a shit about big brother seeing what I wank over or even that I buy drugs.

I just know my identity would be stolen via a data breach.

Stopping kids from looking at porn has been an issue for a long time, when I was a kid it was mainly a copy of Razzle in the bushes behind the bike sheds that we used to get around the law and lack of parenting.

Want to stop kids looking at porn? laws are 1 thing, policing it and parenting it are something very different.

Sweeping everyone up in enforced policing is just a BS excuse for project 1984.
 
Perkins : Reborn said:
It's been a long time since civil liberties haven't been mortally threatened by government agendas. But I still think that ultimately we'll fail to follow through with our intentions, because we're British.
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My resistance will be continually switching my VPN to locate me in whatever countries are not signing up to all of these measures.

I'm aware that Google, Microsoft, and certain social media platforms etc do their own extensive tracking, whatever country your VPN says your in, and whatever settings you adjust to limit the tracking and surveillance. but apart from a benzo habit, I don't think I have too much to worry about from a legal standpoint.

It's just the principle of the whole thing.

That latest measure for phones to have inbuilt surveillance tracking installed within 3 months to monitor all activities; chats; photos, web browsing etc. I'm not clear whether signing up with an ID to prove your age is meant to stop these measures. I don't believe it will tbh, it would be just far too convenient to have all these phones forced to have inbuilt surveillance, in all reality the state is not going to switch the facility off, if you do prove that you're over 18. By uploading your ID, your anonymity is blown regardless. It's a no win situation, unless you avoid these operating systems and updates, and keep your VPN set to less Orwellian countries.

Things have now gone much further than even Orwell himself ever predicted in 1984. I can only imagine that the great man and thinker that he was, would be totally shocked and astonished at the latest turns of events.
 
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aThat latest measure for phones to have inbuilt surveillance tracking installed within 3 months to monitor all activities
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I've been thinking about giving something like GrapheneOS a try on my phone but I don't really use my phone very much to make the effort worthwhile.
Cheshire_Kat said:
This has already happened to me in the past, it is not just fantasy ...
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that sucks.

it's gonna get a lot worse I think

Bleaney said:
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sadly they will cave to 3 letter acronym pressure, plenty of examples of this happening.

AMD this week as an example


widely viewed as creating a backdoor
 
Anyone who watches developments in Ireland will know that if MI5 wish to, they can fuck you up. Over the past four years there were thousands of messages and even blocked debit cards(among other sanctions) to anyone with a connection to dissident Republicanism.

That's what can already be accessed and utilised by the powers that be without any further intrusion.

Sure, I use Proton VPN, but I'm under no illusions about flying under the radar if the security services adjust the radar.

So before the Online Safety Act, we were already under maximum surveillance.
 
placebonaut said:
I've been thinking about giving something like GrapheneOS a try on my phone but I don't really use my phone very much to make the effort worthwhile.
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Same. My use of my phone is minimal. It's almost 10 years old, so hopefully it wont even be capable of receiving this dreaded update in 3 months time.

I hope there'll be some tutorials on youtube demonstrating how to prevent the update, if it does roll out to even ancient old phones.

I mostly use my PC, and I'm a lot more pc literate than I am with my phone.

I folllowed expert tutorials when setting up my Win 11 pc, and they showed how to bypass the apparently compulsory sign in to your Microsoft account for everything you do, otherwise meaning they can see everything you do, and also switching off the installation of all of the telemetry nasties, and other non security forced updates, and all of the other unnecessary bloatware and spyware. I couldn't have done all of that without following a tutorial, but I know how to keep my settings tight on my pc, although I'm struggling to deal with malicious popups on my phone, despite having firefox and ublock origin installed. I'll have to look into it further.

The latest firefox update fucked up all of my passwords and logins for a couple of days on my pc, before I found a tutorial that contained the fixes for that issue, yesterday. The so called 'trouble shooting' mode of firefox was not much help. It didn't let me use my VPN for a start.
 
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Sure, I use Proton VPN, but I'm under no illusions about flying under the radar if the security services adjust the radar.
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For normal use a VPN just adds a nice layer of obfuscation e.g. bypass porn checks, but it also concentrates all the traffic very conveniently in 1 location for 3LA agencies.

Plenty enough for regular LE prevention given how they are required to have warrants to snoop on you versus lack of logging of decent VPN providers.

But ain't nothing stopping 3LAs if they want to see what's going on, it just depends on how big a target you are versus the resources they have available, they will simply get direct access to the hardware/use backdoors/brute force should they want to - but if you're naughty enough to be worried about this in the 1st place.....

They're not coming after regular uses like us thankfully, at least not yet...

And I think there are softer/easier targets if they want to clamp down on drug users.

Bleaney said:
I folllowed expert tutorials when setting up my Win 11 pc,
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yeah I've done the same, it's a ball ache though.

I converted a laptop to linux a few months a go as an experiment, it's a bit flaky in places but I'm surprised at how viable it is as a daily drive for the basics, I won't be swapping back to Windows - added bonus that it works very well on older hardware, I picked up a cheap 5 year old ex-company thinkpad for £150 and it runs like a dream on it.

got to keep windows on my main computer though as use it for a few games I still play when I have chance.
 
I heard that Windscribe was raided recently, in an operation to seize their servers, on account of a legal investigation into the activities of a certain individual. However, the moment the servers were seized, and disconnected from the power, all memory was instantly wiped.

This is because Windscribe operates entirely through RAM memory, which will be completely wiped the instant the power is disconnected.

I'm not sure if logs are getting written to RAM, as I believe the company has a total no logs policy.

The company generally gets good reviews from people that know a lot more about these things than I do, as a good option for enhancing privacy protections, and bypassing age verification, whilst also being very affordable.
 
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placebonaut said:
yeah I've done the same, it's a ball ache though.
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I didn't think so. I'm quite interested in such things, so I quite enjoyed searching for the best tutorials, and following them to set up my PC.

It was a few hours very well spent I would say, tbh. It might pay off for years, past and future.

If my pc ever becomes unusable on Windows due to worsening performance, I'll also switch to a version of Linux that uses minimal RAM, and general hardware resources, and that is also privacy friendly.

There are such options available, as there are currently an incredible amount of Linux operating systems to chose from.
 
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