I'm not the one that rudely dismissed someone as a "conspiracy theorist" and insulted them after they kindly tried to post some information after it was requested. It was rude and uncalled for. Being proud of being ignorant to facts is not something anyone should aspire to. The information that was presented in the video is hard science. At least most of it is. It just isn't approved by "mainstream science" which does function exactly like the old Christian churches did when they were still openly crowning kings and exerting control over half the planet while committing genocide against multiple peoples all because they refused to convert and toss away 10,000+ years of their own native religions/gods/beliefs/and way of life.
Ironically, the only reason you have mainstream science today is because vatican city dumped mountains of Gold into studying it, promoting it and funding many well known Universities all over the world. They still do by the way. The Vatican owns a huge telescope called Lucifer if you didn't know. If you search on google the new AI will lie to you and tell you it's just a tin-foil hat delusion. But it's true. They openly admit to running that particular observatory in Arizona. But anyone that points it out it labeled crazy and it's hand waved away as a "common misconception". It's not the only large telescope they own either.
Then there is the fact that they have the worlds largest library filled with the oldest books mankind has archived. Of course. We're not allowed access to the library and they refuse to scan those books. Which should be their top priority if they want to spread that knowledge and ensure it's never lost. But it's occult knowledge aka hidden knowledge. That those of us that aren't deemed worthy to be considered humans aren't allowed to read.
Again this is rude and no it's not. The scientific method is the search for truth about the world. Anyone can educate themselves if they can read
and is given access to the knowledge/information. Knowledge is power. Which is why so much of it is occult knoweldge because they don't want you to better yourself and obtain the power you could obtain if you were given access to that knoweldge.
You're effectively just name calling.
Why not listen to the weirdo in the pub? Weird people are interesting even if they're wrong. Pretty much everyone that comes to this forum and talks about drug is probably considered a weirdo to the general straight edged population.
Who said I believed in Christianity? I might post a quote from the bible now and again because it's one of the oldest books we have. There is plenty of good advice in it. It isn't even an original book or story either. A lot of the information within it has been being passed down for the last 10,000+ years both orally and in the written records of every culture we know about from the past. Funny thing about those people's stories to. Especially the records we have from 10,000-12,000 years ago. They all drew, talked and if we're lucky wrote down the same basic story about seeing the sun turn black and then a massive flood. That story isn't exclusive to Christians. No matter where you go in the world. No matter what the culture or religion of those people is. They all describe the flood myth in detail. They all described the things happening: the sun rising in the west, night lasting longer than it was supposed to or the sun turning black depending on which side of the planet they were located on, a large flood wiping out much of the world population shortly after and the few that did survive doing so by going into caves. Then we go to the fossil record and what do we find? Some major event that killed off most of the human population and most of the animal/plant life very quickly right around 10,000-12,000 years ago. We look to the sky and we see the same thing: blank places in space where we can't see any stars at regular gaps in light years always 10,000-12,000 years apart.
The scientific method is tied directly to religion. All through history is was funded and practiced by religious people and sects. Every famous person modern science worships (their idols) were devout followers of some kind of religion (in the western world usually Christian, in the Middle East usually Muslim which is where you modern math comes from, in the east various sects of Buddhists, Shinto and followers of Confucius).
Science and religion have always been tied together at the hip. The priest classes have always outranked "Kings" and "leaders of nations". The only real difference between now and every "scientist" from about the early 1800s going back 10,000+ years is the fact that instead of having a separate priest class and the people doing science being funded by large churches. They've now elevated the scientists themselves to the level of idols and priests. Modern "science"
is dogma. It has been elevated from a method of discovering the truth to a dogma that must be followed or you're labeled crazy, dismissed with name calling/insults and anyone not believing in the modern science dogma is lampooned and ignored.
If it's so easy to disprove the "tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists" how come none of these modern science idols will ever debate their so-called detractors? I'll give you an example: Almost a decade ago now Neil deGrasse Tyson was scheduled to debate Eric Dubay on Joe Rogan's podcast. Which would have been watched by millions of live viewers. It would have been highly entertaining and there was absolutely no reason why anyone involved shouldn't have been excited to take part in it as they all stood to make a lot of money (well, at least Joe Rogan did but I'm sure guests get a cut of the profits).
Neil deGrasse Tyson had been going on TV for months by this point doing mic drops and "dunking" on the people promoting the Flat Earth theories. Now while I certainly don't think the Earth is flat I see absolutely nothing wrong with people wanting to believe and talk about that. Around the time search queries for "Flat Earth" on google/youtube/everywhere were at an all time high. People wanted to view that information and decide for themselves. Which is their right.
After setting up and agreeing to the live debate Neil deGrasse Tyson backed out and claimed he "didn't want to give those people a platform". At the very same time videos on youtube about the subject with millions of views were all censored and taken out of search results. Many were deleted and many accounts banned for "mis/disinformation". Then suddenly a bunch of new channels and personalities popped up on youtube and social media. The videos from those accounts got highly promoted by the so-called algorithm and they were amassing millions of views quickly despite the thumbs down/dislike counts being massive. Which was blamed on "trolls" and the dislike counter would often be reset multiple times a day. Most of these channels were "debunking" channels by people no one had ever heard of before. Who went on later to promote and "debunk" a bunch of other crap. Then there were these other channels, highly promoted, not shadow banned, making tons of money off donations, obvious botted comments/live chat. All of who were pretending to be as stupid as possible, spouting nonsense and lies, posting "evidence" that was clearly not true. These people no one ever heard of just happen to be the subject of some documentary that was released very shortly after that made them look like the dumbest mother fuckers walking the planet. It was very obvious these people were/are actors hired to make anyone that might be questioning the things coming out of NASA look stupid by association.
If NASA, Neil deGrasse Tyson or any of the other idols/organizations (the "experts we're supposed to trust") want to disprove the claims people like Eric Dubay have been making for over a decade now it'd be very easy. Neil should be able to smash Dubay in a proper debate and it would be the best way to prove once and for all he's wrong about his opinion that the Earth is flat. NASA could very easily release pictures of unedited (meaning, raw data not photoshopped bullshit and CGI) from a satellite orbiting the Earth that would put the matter to rest once and for all. But so far they haven't despite sucking up billions of tax payers dollars every year since they were founded. Neil (and other mainstream science idols) refuse to debate anyone that isn't some paid actor pretending to be retarded.
The fact of the matter is: The standard model can't explain certain things about what we can see doing
hard science on the ground. Like the fact that we can see things
much much further than we should be able to see things across a flat plane with the rate of drop due to the curve of the Earth that we're told (8 inches per every mile). A large body of water, some mirrors and a telescope is the easiest if you want to see for yourself. I was curious enough to see for myself and there was a lake near me that was long enough to put this to the test. I went on a calm day. Placed a mirror on the shore of an island, got in my ski boat, went several miles to the shore on the main land. Set-up telescope 12 inches above ground level on that shore. Looked through the telescope and what do you know. I could clearly see the mirror. There was no drop at all. If the curve of the Earth is what they claim it should have been impossible to see the mirror from my location because it should have been hidden behind several feet of the curve.
Their explination? Sometyhing they call atmospheric refraction. I don't buy it myself. But this is still not enough to explain away how wron their math in the standard model is. There are many more methods people have used over the years to prove the standard model is wrong. I'll save you the novel about them for now. If you truly care (I'm sure you probbaly don't) the information is out there. Much harder to find these days compared to 10 years ago but I've given you enough in the above to get started.
Then we have things like gravity. They have been unable to prove the existance of gravity in the standard model for hundreds of years. In reality, the reason things fall to the ground can be more easily explained by another well known and understood phenomenon. It's called density. It's why a ping-pong ball falls to the ground in open air but floats when you drop it into water. It certainly exists and we can easily explain why it exists. It's observable after all. Any child is familiar with it and how it works.
Now I personally do not think the Earth is flat. I could prove it one way or the other but sadly every possible way I could disprove it for sure is out of my reach. Since large portions of the Earth are off limits to people like you and I. As anyone that gets too close to a certain large landmass is the south can expect to be hasseled by all the world's militaries. The mainstream claims that's not true and you can visit that landmass. In reality you can only book an expensive trip to see a small portion of it. If you try to charter your own boat/ship and sail to the south you WILL be stopped by the military. That also happens to be the only thing all these militaries seem to agree on: Keeping regular people off that particular landmass. Even the ones that claim to openly hate and be at war with each other. They all were gung-ho to sign that treaty though and make that place off limits to regular folks like you and I. This is highly suspicious.
You want my take on it? As far as I can tell the world is probably round but I think it's much larger than they claim it is and that there are landmasses and seas beyond that certian landmass to our south. This would explain the fact that the curve of the planet is not as steep as the standard model claims it is. It also just happens to be the one argument that if you post it anywhere will have the ball earth and flat earth people
unite to yell at you. Which is par for the course. Considering a lot of these so-called "flat earthers" are obviously paid actors/trolls/shills. Which is why threads for this subject are typically flooded everyday by bots and obvious paid posters who do nothing but argue with each other all day typically re-posting the same lame bullshit at each other everyday.
I personally believe we're probably in a crater of some sort. The flat earth people's so-called "ice wall" is really just the rim of that crater. That there are lands and peoples that exist beyond it. That we're all trapped in a prison together. Of course I could be wrong. What makes me angry is despite the fact that it would be easy to prove/disprove this I'll never be able to do it no matter how much money, time and effort I put towards that goal. Since again:
no one is allowed to get anywhere near that southern landmass/"ice wall".
This despite the fact that Admiral Richard E. Byrd said on television in the mid-1950s that there was an area as large as North America left totally unexplored by man and young people interested in discovering new land and resources should explore it:
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Then we have the entire "weather control" issue. Another subject where you can't allowed to have a civil discussion at all anywhere on the web. People say you're crazy if you believe the weather can be controlled/manipulated. But we have mountains of papers most from the Government/NATO not only proving it can be done. They've admitted to doing it many times in the past as an act of war (and been caught). They publish papers about it all of the time. Like this one:
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/ADA333462
Then we have former presidents of the USA on television in the 1960s openly admitting to it not only being possible but being required if the United States wanted to remain in its position as the dominate world power;
Plus years of claims from countries like Iran that claim the USA has been waging weather war on them for decades to cause crop failures. Or how about Mexican farmers suing Volkswagen for using technology to control the weather in Mexico. VW installed "hail cannons" to prevent large storms from passing over the large outdoor parking lots where they park cars waiting to be shipped to dealships all over the world. It isn't bullshit I made up, it's real:
https://driving.ca/volkswagen/auto-...vw-over-hail-cannons-they-say-caused-droughts
I could go on and on about the various ways the weather can be easily controlled through a combination of different methods. Like the fact that if you "cloud seed" you can make it rain. You can spray aluminum (and other materials aka chaff) over a wide area then heat up the atmosphere using radio waves to push storms this way or that. You can steer hurricanes. You can also push a lot moisture into the atmosphere from the ground and spin up storms using it with a combination of the two above methods. There are so many Government and private company patents concerning weather control/manipulation that it would take me days to cite them all. They're all on scihub if you care to have a look. The US military started experimenting with it during the Dust Bowl era, used it for the first time in warfare during WW2, used it heavily in both the Korean and Vietnam war and got caught spraying their own domestic population with various things in the Cold War era. They sprayed multiple cities just to see how many people they could get sick multiple times (most famously in San Fran see:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray).
Don't get me started on the moon/Apollo program and this recent farce of a fly-by they did. I mean how much proof do you need? A mission launched on April 1st/April fools day didn't raise any alarms for you?
I am not trying to be rude but if people are rude to me first it's only natural that I would get a bit angry isn't it? I try very hard not to get drawn into emotional arguments. It isn't worth my time first off but more importantly it can never lead to anything positive. But I am upset I'll admit. Since before very recently (last decade or so) you used to be able to have a proper discussion on the internet with other people even if you disagreed on just about every issue. It was called civil debate. Something that we've seemed to have lost. This is by design of course. People are easier to control when they're divided.
One thing that's really bugging me lately is all these famous "science idols" coming out to promote the so-called "simulation theory". Which is just the same old story all the all religions promoted. Except instead of an almighty God-like enitity they expect you to believe we're all living in a computer simulation of some sort now (aka the Matrix).
I am sure of this much: The world is not what it seems and you and I are not just meat bags that cease to exist once our brain function quits and our hearts stop. There is something beyond. The world is a stage. There is some kind of veil that prevents us from seeing what is truly happening around us. That's probably why our eyes can only pick up a very tiny part of the spectrum that occupies the entire spectrum (which includes radio waves) that we know about thus far.
It isn't like I woke up one day and decided to make shit like this up or got suckered into believing some "werido in a pub". I've spent decades reading books, seeking out occult information, cross checking sources, reading papers (many of which I had to pay money for), studying religion, practicing the scientific method and spending my own time and money to practice it. I question everything and I'm always willing to admit when I was wrong. I do not like dogma. I ask "Why!?". I've been like that since I was a child. I've also had things happen to me that can not be explained by the standard model. I know we must continue to exist after we die because things happened to me in the past that confirmed it to me personally. But I don't believe in some almighty God or blindly follow any gods/spirits/whatever you want to call them.
For me it's like this: I try to be a good person and do the right thing. Which mostly consists of not harming or insulting anyone. I respect other people's right to believe whatever the fuck it is they want. But I do have one major pet peeve: Censorship and hiding knowledge. If you do either of those things to me I'm going to fight you tooth and nail because it is wrong. Which is the main reason why I've never joined any so-called secrete socities despite having been invited and encouraged multiple times. I did however read all the books from those organizations whenever I could get my hands on one. I'm not talking about some random .pdf file on the internet either. I'm talking about hard copies of their books. Books that were very hard to find. Books if some people knew I had they'd probably murder me over them. Books that are _very_ hard to get copies of if you're not "in the club". I made sure to scan them and upload them to the internet for everyone else to read.
Just be civil. That's all I'm saying. What harm does it do to you personally if someone doesn't believe the same way you do? I'm trying to show you that you're doing the same thing the people you're ranting against do. You believe in a certain dogma and you instantly dismiss anyone that doesn't also believe in it. Billions of people over the years have been murdered and genocided due to that kind of thinking. If someone wants to believe they live on a pancake and the moon is made of cheese and NASA never went there because the rabbits occupying the hidden lunatic kingdom on the far side of it declared war because of the attemped invasions of 1969-the mid 1970s then let them. They are not doing harm to anyone. They certainly do not deserve to be censorsed. Even though it’s all the jews fault.
Friendly reminder: Every major "breakthrough" in mainstream science/the standard model came from someone that questioned the dogma of science and most were ostracized by their peers in academia before they were somehow able to prove their theory. Many didn't live to see their theory proven. Many died poor and destitute for daring to speak out against the dogma. Many were murdered and burned at the stake. Try to keep that in mind.
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