Yes definitely and that would be harm reduction because thats a lot of acetimophen everyday I guess ...at least get acetimpohen out, caffeine is okay...
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Yeah. Thankfully I don't do the pills every day. At most 2X a week. Though within the limits for acetaminophen consumption per day, it's still not good for me in the long run.
I'm thinking about asking my doctor to switch me back to Tramadol. It would be a dream if they would give me oxy... though that could be a slippery slope pour moi.
oxy will be hard to get scripted , tramadol would be easier i think.. need to find a doctor !
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Though I don't think it's wise to combine Tramadol and Kratom..
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Yeah. Two CNS depressants might be asking for trouble.
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Not only that. Kratom binds to serotonin and dopamine receptors while Tram in an SNRI - there might be some serious interaction there.
I took Kratom with Syrian Rue (Mao-inhibitor) once and it floored me in a bad way - mild serotonin syndrome I think.
Iirc Tramadol is known for causing deaths in combination with maois, so I wouldn't risk the combo...
It is giving me headaches to mix both it seems. Tram wakes me up adding krat on top makes me sleepy. I always take benzo on top because im worried about seizures.
OT :
5g kratom
20mg diazepam
Mushoku_Sensei
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Oh, that makes sense! I was wondering while writing what the subjective effects would be like... Thanks
On another note Kratom seemed to make me long term sleepy... On top of the major weirdness I'm testifying that stuff when it comes to duration of effects in general... I used other opioids during the weekend and aside spoiling my Tol a bit it also made me much less generally sleepy - anyone with me on that one?
OT: 5,2 g red Kratom, 25 mg dmh, usual nicotine
Yeah both Kratom and Tram when taken separately tend to wake me up, yet some days Kratom seem to make a bit more sleepy while Tram always wake me up in a sense as I take it almost as a stimulant .Oh, that makes sense! I was wondering while writing what the subjective effects would be like... Thanks
I'll be nervous, not anxious, but focused and quite speedy. Can even make my jaw clench. On the other end Kratom wakes me up gently (when dosed correctly) . If i take Tramadol lets say 4-6h after my last dose of Krat it will wake me up, but if I dose Tramadol like 150mg with 5g of Kratom at the same time, I am nodding a bit if and overall feels more sleepy but nothing crazy.
I tried two days in a row and each time I ended up with a nasty headache, once the day after , when I spaced them, and the other one few hours after dosing both. I am pretty sure this is it. It is not feeling significantly great either so not really worth it.
Tramadol feels dirty overall. It's good for few days but I'd take Kratom for maintenance.
I think when you spoil your tolerance with other opies, then Krat makes you only more awake for a while until your tol goes down. It is weird sometimes.
OT:
added food, a spliff of some sativa, some black tea
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Agreed, though I'm probably a bit more tolerant to Tram still. Kratom is definitely softer. And the correct dosing is tricky for me. Currently I can do with 4 - 2 ( minimum and then a bit higher) doses in a day, and I always wake up in mild WD - which doesn't happen with Tram this easily ime. I also wonder why Kratom has such a short duration of felt effects, and yet higher doses can keep the WD away for much longer ( not as long as Tram for me though). I read that it seems to have a double elimination curve, which makes sense to me.
I'll take your word for that!
Which is what I intend to do, but Kratom is pretty dirty itself for me at least...
now that would explain a few things... But it would mean that fatigue is actually my natural state 
' ...Ugh... RIP
Shinji Ikari
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Yesterday's dinner: bakwan jagung (corn fritters basically) spring rolls, veg curry. I asked for the curry to be spicy and they delivered
Shinji Ikari
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Hang on a minute this isn't the food thread!
Play it cool Shinji they're all high they won't even notice
Play it cool Shinji they're all high they won't even notice
Mushoku_Sensei
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Oh damn, this isn't the morning thread either! LMAOHang on a minute this isn't the food thread!
Play it cool Shinji they're all high they won't even notice
All the better:
OT = early redose of
6,7 g Kratom
25 mg dmh
Not high, but the creeping cold feeling is gone again... Means I'm at 4-5 hour intervals rn
Mushoku_Sensei
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I finally dug out my old weed today and vaped a bit of it... With zero tolerance and at lunch 
... Jeez I was so messed up, definitely a bad idea...
Idk why I keep underestimating weed... Every time I pick it up after a long break I regret my carelessness
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Other than that I had total today:
23 g red Bali,
75 mg dph
75 mg Pregabalin
5 mg Diazepam
Now waiting for 100 mg Tilidin and the last 6g dose of Kratom to kick in...
Might dare to vape some more later if not satisfied
Edit: still working on a proper dosing schedule for the Kratom...
... Jeez I was so messed up, definitely a bad idea...Idk why I keep underestimating weed... Every time I pick it up after a long break I regret my carelessness
...Other than that I had total today:
23 g red Bali,
75 mg dph
75 mg Pregabalin
5 mg Diazepam
Now waiting for 100 mg Tilidin and the last 6g dose of Kratom to kick in...
Might dare to vape some more later if not satisfied
Edit: still working on a proper dosing schedule for the Kratom...
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Shinji Ikari
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A few drinks, and 120mg of MDMA.
Perhaps, why the fuck not.
Off tomorrow and haven't rolled in the better part of a year.
Perhaps, why the fuck not.
Off tomorrow and haven't rolled in the better part of a year.
Shinji Ikari
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I’m gonna flip this with another 70mg of MDMA and 25(ish)mg of 4-aco-dmt in a couple of hours. Never combined MDMA with a tryptamine before so should be interesting.
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It’s ok. It’s just that your body knows you over did it in the days to come.
Shinji Ikari
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It made me a bit nauseous. I found some metaclopromide and weed and now I'm feeling pretty good.
Day off tomorrow, admin day Tuesday and then Wednesday Thursday off again. Plenty of time to recover
Besides, my job is murder the drugs probably feel like a break as far as my body is concerned